Off-Topic Tranny Biology - HRT Is Magic

[Dilatortron3000]

"Neurobiologically (opposite sex)" is woo-woo. It's the troon religion's attempt at inventing the soul. As that brain scan earlier upthread shows, troons at *most* lean on the feminine side of masculine (or the masculine side of feminine), not anywhere close to identical to the opposite sex.
If your brain is that of the opposite sex, then riddle me this: why did you go through an otherwise completely unremarkable puberty typical to your sex? Your girly feminine brain didn't forget to drop your balls. Your manly doodbrain put your breasts through all the tanner stages. How bizarre, it's so strange that your brain seems to be completely physically aligned with your sex. It's just the crazy person in the driver's seat that's the issue. Perhaps it's a...fetish?

They literally found a dood who had CAIS. So it is impossible for this dood to have a male brain

 

[Jacques1194]

I'd love to hear them explaining the 'mind' one without raising ugly questions: If there are typical fe/male 'mind and emotions' that is a half-step removed from the old stereotypes that women are dramatic and emotionally fragile while men are inconsiderate pigs. Apart from being mostly wrong and contrary to decades of feminist activism, it also contradicts the current troon dogma that self-ID is all that defines a woman because now they are introducing new and semi-objective criteria.

The other explanation (and this one would go over even worse with troons) is that hormones interfere with thought and belief patterns beyond alleviating dysphoria. If this is true the it raises obvious questions about how much of their post transition personality is real vs. chemically induced.

This is where I doubt the trans brain because you get TIPs that ask questions on their subs such as "How to act more like a man or a woman?" If one were to believe trans brains existed then shouldn't their brains know how to already? For example, I saw this post by a TIF on the main trans thread where she asked the question "How to flirt with girls as a trans boy?" Its like, wouldn't your "man brain" automatically be programmed to know how? The only argument I see is "Well, cis boys get taught how to be men by their fathers or another male relative." Here's the thing though, they still grow up to be men even if they were never "taught" how to be one considering there isn't a special part a man's brain that tells him how to flirt with women. Another cop out answer for above that I saw was that "Trans brains only show us their gender identity. There isn't a specific way to be a man, woman, or non-binary in the brain." Which begs the question. What is a man then? Again, they can't say brains have a gender identity but then turn around and not give us traits to what said identity is. If the idea of a man, woman, or non-binary is entirely subjective to how the person sees themselves then you can't been born with the wrong brain.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I would love to know what the fuck dirt John Money had on the psych community that convinced them to play along

He was a pedophile so my guess is so are a lot of the people involved in the whole Gendershit Cult, WPATH are a prime example, theres also the ties a lot of early Gender activists had to groups like NAMBLA.
My guess it was all a collective circle jerk of sick fucks that kept dirt on each other.
People like Money having access to kids without the parent present, and looking at the sick fucking videos he made of David Reimer and his brother where he forced them to simulate incestuous acts, I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only videos he made of kids under his care, or if he passed on those videos to his "colleagues" for "research purposes."

The entire history of the Gender Cult consists of pedophiles and is tied up with pedophiles.

 

[expectant asshole]

I’ve never understood then identity belief of gender. How do you identify as a woman? Is it a conscious choice? What does a “woman” identity consist of? Do you have to constantly identify as a “woman” to be a woman? If someone is unconscious (like asleep) are they still a woman?
I think just sticking to adult human female is much easier.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

The science of troonery.

 

[Burnt Effigy]

They literally found a dood who had CAIS. So it is impossible for this dood to have a male brain
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>complete ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY syndrome
>complete sex reassignment involving ANDROGEN TREATMENT

The jokes write themselves, we really are in clown world.

 

[A.P. Hill]

>complete ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY syndrome
>complete sex reassignment involving ANDROGEN TREATMENT

The jokes write themselves, we really are in clown world.

You can't fix CAIS by dosing with T (hence the name) or anything. These individuals will invariably grow up as women with disabilities, not lil' pooners. God, these people are stupid.

[REDACTED] any "scientist" who intentionally lies or misleads to spread genderspecial nonsense. It's a blatant breach of ethics and yet every major organization turns away when it comes to troons.

 

[Dilatortron3000]

 

[Procrastinhater]

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Fucking Troons.
You know what they should try, really quirky pregnant food uWu?
Pickles soaked in arsenic.

 

[Athena Save Us!]

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Sir, a stomach ache isn't a period. Do they even know what causes cramps or where they should feel the cramps? One day, one of these retards is going to suffer a bout of appendicitis and believe they're experiencing labor pains, or have a kidney stone and assume it's a cyst from their nonexistent PCOS rupturing. Even pooners aren't dumb enough to believe they can get kicked in the balls.

 

[soup peddler]

The main criterion for dropping a "quack"? Suggesting (the NERVE!) that perhaps, possibly, tremendous doses of hormones in levels meant to ape a second puberty in a body that doesn't want to go that way, -might- be freaking his brain chemistry out and causing, or at least worsening, his anxiety.

Meanwhile today in US cities it is impossible to find a therapist who isn't a complete troon ideologue.

 

[gnostic dogma]

god the men you put on this earth to provide and protect are squirting on reddit

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

"Troons are a kind of woman." - Banana Wu

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

"Troons are a kind of woman." - Banana Wu


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Bottom-shelf, expired off-brand milk powder kind of woman

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Meanwhile today in US cities it is impossible to find a therapist who isn't a complete troon ideologue.

That's because they can get big bucks whilst doing absolutely no work at diagnosis.

No ideology there other than laziness and greed.

 

[Jacques1194]

So the idea of "gender euphoria" popped up in my mind and I guess I want to ask people this tranny "science". Gender euphoria is the idea that is defined as satisfaction or joy caused when one's gendered experience aligns with their gender identity, rather than with the gender they were assigned at birth.

I want to ask what is gender euphoria to "cis" people? I know TIPs argue that "cis" women get "euphoria" when they feel sexy or happy but like I've stated before, I don't know of any woman (including the most narcissistic ones) who have ever gotten turned on by performing "femininity". In fact, I've noticed this concept is wildly inconsistent and contradictory. On one hand, TIPs will tell you that cis people are assumed to experience gender euphoria doing ordinary things. On the other hand, they also say that sometimes cis people are not capable of true gender euphoria because they have the privilege of living in alignment with their gender identity all the time.

If the conversation is trying to argue that trans and cis women are essentially the same, it will repeatedly insist that cis people have dozens of routine experiences with gender affirmation and gender euphoria and any other gender-fixated experience. If the conversation is trying to emphasize that trans people are the Most Uniquely Oppressed, then cis people will never/rarely experience gender euphoria because they do not carry the existential pain of gender incongruence.

As usual, both claims are mutually exclusive and unfalsifiable. So then why is gender euphoria considered a valid psychological thing that exists?

 

[Durkadurkadurka]

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will They ever understand that injected hormones don’t fluctuate like a real womans?

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

So the idea of "gender euphoria" popped up in my mind and I guess I want to ask people this tranny "science". Gender euphoria is the idea that is defined as satisfaction or joy caused when one's gendered experience aligns with their gender identity, rather than with the gender they were assigned at birth.

I want to ask what is gender euphoria

One might find it...odd to say the least that troons claim to experience a surge of pleasure when "experiencing their true gender", because when you look for examples it all comes back crossdressing, breaking into an opposite sex space, getting a beard or moobs from hormones. You know, things that align with expected reports from autogyne/androphiles. I have never once in my entire life experienced a surge of pleasure from shaving. I've never once met a woman shivering with tingles from spinning a skirt. Perhaps we privileged cissies will never understand their plight. Perhaps their plight is a weird creepy reaction to parts of the opposite sex that they've incorporated into a fetish.

 

[Jacques1194]

One might find it...odd to say the least that troons claim to experience a surge of pleasure when "experiencing their true gender", because when you look for examples it all comes back crossdressing, breaking into an opposite sex space, getting a beard or moobs from hormones. You know, things that align with expected reports from autogyne/androphiles. I have never once in my entire life experienced a surge of pleasure from shaving. I've never once met a woman shivering with tingles from spinning a skirt. Perhaps we privileged cissies will never understand their plight. Perhaps their plight is a weird creepy reaction to parts of the opposite sex that they've incorporated into a fetish.

The whole thing is contradicting. TRAs will tell you that they aren't about sexist stereotypes and that women who don't get "gender euphoria" by doing feminine things are still women because gender is just self identification that has no bearing on stereotypes. Yet, they also say "cis" women can never experience full gender euphoria because they're already comfortable with their birth gender or that they secretly get it when they dress up. Again, these are all claims that are unfalsifiable. Again, how does any medical expert who isn't a raging TRA take these claims seriously when such contradicting statements would be considered pseudoscience if this was any other subject?

 

[UncleTusky]

So the idea of "gender euphoria" popped up in my mind and I guess I want to ask people this tranny "science". Gender euphoria is the idea that is defined as satisfaction or joy caused when one's gendered experience aligns with their gender identity, rather than with the gender they were assigned at birth.

I want to ask what is gender euphoria to "cis" people? I know TIPs argue that "cis" women get "euphoria" when they feel sexy or happy but like I've stated before, I don't know of any woman (including the most narcissistic ones) who have ever gotten turned on by performing "femininity". In fact, I've noticed this concept is wildly inconsistent and contradictory. On one hand, TIPs will tell you that cis people are assumed to experience gender euphoria doing ordinary things. On the other hand, they also say that sometimes cis people are not capable of true gender euphoria because they have the privilege of living in alignment with their gender identity all the time.

If the conversation is trying to argue that trans and cis women are essentially the same, it will repeatedly insist that cis people have dozens of routine experiences with gender affirmation and gender euphoria and any other gender-fixated experience. If the conversation is trying to emphasize that trans people are the Most Uniquely Oppressed, then cis people will never/rarely experience gender euphoria because they do not carry the existential pain of gender incongruence.

As usual, both claims are mutually exclusive and unfalsifiable. So then why is gender euphoria considered a valid psychological thing that exists?

One of my work's resident TiFs attempted to explain this to us. And by 'explain' I mean 'put our ability to keep a straight face to the test'.

Spoiler: For Brevity

This explanation took the form of a PowerPoint presentation which took away from more useful tasks, like watching paint dry or literally walking into a brick wall. Because being a troon was not obnoxious enough, she insisted on being referred to as "Dr. Sneed" vice "Sneed". She is literally the only person at my work to do this.

A few slides into the presentation the concept of gender euphoria came up. To explain it to normies, she compared it to the feeling you get when someone asks about your unusual hobby, or when someone remembers you are a vegetarian and brings a vegetarian dish to a BBQ/potluck.

Now for the thing we are not supposed to do - making troons follow their own rules. Using this example, gender euphoria is some combination of 'feeling content because someone went out of his/her way for you specifically' or ''feeling content because you did/found something you enjoy but can't easily find'. This puts the lie to both the claims you were quoting - it's uncommon, it's pretty much never from doing ordinary things, and you sure as shit don't need to be a troon to experience it. More importantly, I am not obligated to make others euphoric and they aren't obligated to make me euphoric.

ETA: Spoiler tag for brevity.