AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[harmy.kook]

People who are creative can use whatever tools they want,

This.
I mean I've seen people use electricity going through glass to make art.

It's about what skill you build and how you use it.

What point is there to complaining about AI when you make slop art yourself?

What point is there to complaining if your community draws the same subject that's been done hundreds of times because it's trendy recently?

You do sound like like the sort of cuck that complains about the majority of retards in the art community, but when push comes to shove, you're not actually getting out there trying to present a different possible perspective.
To prove that the majority of artists aren't acting like this.
No, you go behind the scenes and complain... Just like with Hollywood and all the supposed problems that people will talk about in private but never openly oppose while being there or being a part of it

 

[smeech chain]

And in one fell swoop, the entire anti/pro AI debate is exposed for really how stupid the whole thing is. This exactly. Complaining about AI 'automating something people enjoy doing' is like saying we should ban automatic transmissions because you personally prefer to drive stick. It's ludicrous. If you can't see the clear and obvious benefits of having the computer able to fill out aspects of your art for you as a professional artist, then you need to get your fucking brain checked. Likewise, if you somehow feel like your enjoyment in engaging with your passion of making art is detracted from because other people are using AI, get your head checked. Time is a material resource, just as limited as any other. Professionals ideally need to output quality products at a high quantity, and quickly. Just so happens that AI strikes an elegant compromise between time spent and results. And not to mention, soon entirely hand-made art will be considered artisanal, which is very marketable.

Wait I don't advocate for banning Ai, is that what you understood from what i said because I don't think it should be banned at all.

 

[Runch]

I'm sorry that I came off that way. I should've been less emotionally charged

Being able to respond like this is better than 90% of the spergs you see everywhere else online.

Dialogue online sucks where people can't just read what you actually typed but lump you in with retards who happen to share part of your point of view. I don't think most artists are shrieking reactionary furries, but I also don't think most AI people consider themselves Picasso either. If they want to call themselves artists I say let them, because the word is entirely devalued anyway, like the banana taped to the wall that you mentioned. Photography is considered art and for the average person it's just aiming a box and pressing a button.

AI people tend to lean toward being tech savvy people, i.e. autists, i.e. holding a strong belief in the technical definitions of words rather than ascribing deeper meaning to it. They're like, I create things which are art, therefore technically I'm an artist. It doesn't go beyond that into "I suffer for my creations every day like a modern day Michelangelo." If they do claim that, laugh at them.

 

[Monolith]

I'm "anti-ai", i don't like it. But I also don't like the irrational hatred people have for artists simply because some incidentally happen to not be on the same political side as you.

A human could never recreate this.

 

[smeech chain]

A human could never recreate this.

I Can't argue with that. You got me

 

[linchan]

You know I kinda hate how I am unironically starting to think "Soul" is a buzzword because they describe anything generated by AI as soulless, but they describe, for example, the Minions as something made with Soul.

 

[Colon capital V]

You know I kinda hate how I am unironically starting to think "Soul" is a buzzword because they describe anything generated by AI as soulless, but they describe, for example, the Minions as something made with Soul.

"Soul" was always a meaningless word used to arbitrarily describe something as having some kind of "meaning" or "wholeness" to any work made by people who "deserve" it. It really is a nothing term used to describe things people like, and it has only become more apparent over how meaningless it is to describe things when AI Art is at the helm.

 

[linchan]

"Soul" was always a meaningless word used to arbitrarily describe something as having some kind of "meaning" or "wholeness" to any work made by people who "deserve" it. It really is a nothing term used to describe things people like, and it has only become more apparent over how meaningless it is to describe things when AI Art is at the helm.

That's how I feel but I don't want to sound like this anon

 

[Inco G. Nito]

That's how I feel but I don't want to sound like this anon
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I'm not sure if you consume art to have... 'soul', like you play games to have fun and enjoy them. It's not really comparable. 'Soul' is just a buzzword that retarded trannies who believe in healing crystals come up with to explain why their hand-drawn furry porn is superior to AI generated furry porn.

 

[Accidental Racism]

That's how I feel but I don't want to sound like this anon
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The art equivalent for this would just be aesthetic value. Is the image appealing to the eyes? If so, it doesn't matter whether it was painted by hand on a canvas, on a computer using a tablet, captured by a camera, or made up whole-cloth by a computer algorithm. Art has two purposes: first, is to appeal to the senses, and to provoke deep thoughts. All that matters is that it does at least one of those things, but GOOD art does both. "Soul" is just people huffing their own farts about (often ugly) art.

 

[Kiwisee]

I'm "anti-ai", i don't like it. But I also don't like the irrational hatred people have for artists simply because some incidentally happen to not be on the same political side as you.

If it is of any consolation, AI Art is quickly becoming unpopular with consumers due to how much it’s associated with slop content made by Indians. The whole drama with JCS Psychology switching over to using AI is a pretty decent indicator of how Normies feel about AI.

Ask yourself if any consumer is going to spend actual money on AI content. Maybe the dumbest nigger cattle might, for the novelty of it, but most would just rather produce their own content instead of paying someone else to do it for them.

All it will do is suddenly make Tails Gets Trolled be considered high art by the masses, at the rate that it’s going.

 

[RandyMiskatonic]

Patrick Ryan says AI is tied to Luigi the CEO Slayer. And that somehow you can use LLMs to lure Journo Trash and DHS filth into being doxed?

 

[Runch]

The art equivalent for this would just be aesthetic value. Is the image appealing to the eyes? If so, it doesn't matter whether it was painted by hand on a canvas, on a computer using a tablet, captured by a camera, or made up whole-cloth by a computer algorithm. Art has two purposes: first, is to appeal to the senses, and to provoke deep thoughts. All that matters is that it does at least one of those things, but GOOD art does both. "Soul" is just people huffing their own farts about (often ugly) art.

And the game equivalent of that anonpost would be saying that only games created by humans contain fun, AI generated games inherently can possess no fun because the human coding touch is required to imbue games with fun.

 

[cave dwelling faggot]

found this retard witchhunting "AI art" in possibly the least AI looking art style I have ever seen

Spoiler: The "AI Art" in question

 

[MagneticTowels]

The original meme:

The ArtistHate-defaced version:

Notice something? In the defaced version, the "Genius Individual" is dead on the ground.
Anyone else want to tell me this isn't about resentment and tall poppy syndrome?

 

[AnOminous]

Photography is considered art and for the average person it's just aiming a box and pressing a button.

If you give a retard the most expensive camera in the world you're still not going to get Ansel Adams results.

 

[Inco G. Nito]

If you give a retard the most expensive camera in the world you're still not going to get Ansel Adams results.

As if a retard with the most advanced AI in the world will come up with anything more interesting than 10,000 images of the same anime girl in varying states of undress.

 

[Kiwisee]

found this retard witchhunting "AI art" in possibly the least AI looking art style I have ever seen

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Spoiler: The "AI Art" in question

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It may sound hypocritical of me, considering what website we are on, but I absolutely hate these AI witch hunts. They make actual artists scared to make mistakes in fear that they’ll get labelled AI. It reminds me of the old crusade against people that trace characters, when in fact most of the accused artists just heavily referenced.

Same tactics, new subjects. This is part of the reason why the art community isn’t getting much sympathy, even if there’s valid reasons to dislike AI art.

Nothing about those images in question screams “AI” to me because the style is consistent. The line work is consistently messy looking and the coloring is consistent enough to have been done by human hands.

 

[cave dwelling faggot]

It may sound hypocritical of me, considering what website we are on, but I absolutely hate these AI witch hunts. They make actual artists scared to make mistakes in fear that they’ll get labelled AI. It reminds me of the old crusade against people that trace characters, when in fact most of the accused artists just heavily referenced.

Same tactics, new subjects. This is part of the reason why the art community isn’t getting much sympathy, even if there’s valid reasons to dislike AI art.

Nothing about those images in question screams “AI” to me because the style is consistent. The line work is consistently messy looking and the coloring is consistent enough to have been done by human hands.

As someone who dabbles in AI 'm 99.99% sure the art is hand drawn. Generally the less polished and simple the art is, the harder it is to miss AI-isms and errors that would be hidden in a more rendered/detailed artstyle. This is why it would be much easier to replicate berserk or vagabond's artstyle in AI, in comparison to say, early one piece's artstyle, which would be nearly impossible. When there are less lines, there is a much lower margin of error for each line

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

As someone who dabbles in AI 'm 99.99% sure the art is hand drawn. Generally the less polished and simple the art is, the harder it is to miss AI-isms and errors that would be hidden in a more rendered/detailed artstyle. This is why it would be much easier to replicate berserk or vagabond's artstyle in AI, in comparison to say, early one piece's artstyle, which would be nearly impossible. When there are less lines, there is a much lower margin of error for each line

TBF, it's kinda easy to fool someone like that if tried hard to troll.