UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

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“He’s Italian, let’s go easy on him and make him eat pineapple pizza & drink Americano for one year” lol winner of Last Chink Comic Standing.

The only healthcare system I will say works somewhat is that of Japan and that's because although it's heavily socialized, the people of Japan maintain Comparatively healthier lifestyles when they're not jumping off roofs due to exhaustion or loneliness.

The only?? Well since you brought it up, I've been to Japan & have a relative that moved there years ago after marrying a Japanese girl he met in college. Whenever he visits here he's disturbed by how fucked up things have gotten in the States. The other day he lined me this:

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Ever get the feeling you're being ripped off? It's not so simple as dysfunction in one sector, but there's no excuse for the state of US healthcare. Only radical changes will set it right & I don't see that ever happening, dead vampire or no. Also...$400/yr auto insurance. I pay over twice that for the same coverage and my car is 18 years old. $300/yr home insurance??...time to apply for a residency visa & dust off those Japanese With Ease books. I'm Nippon soyjackin hard, desu.
 
domestication syndrome
I'm so glad to see other people acknowledging this idea. When we domesticate, so too are we domesticated. There's a lot of very deep shit to learn from this situation, but unfortunately some people can't look past whatever small detail they get hung up on.

I've been to Japan & have a relative that moved there years ago after marrying a Japanese girl he met in college. Whenever he visits here he's disturbed by how fucked up things have gotten in the States. The other day he lined me this:

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Insurance is the only industry in existence where you can pay for a product or service, not receive it, and have zero recourse. At the risk of sounding dramatic, it's uniquely parasitic.
 
Paid healthcare isn't a bad idea per se, just like most things, the US have implemented it horrendously. In Switzerland, an arm break will cost me 30 francs, on top of the 48 francs I pay monthly in insurance.

In the US when I broke my arm, I paid $200 a month in insurance, and still had to pay $830 out of pocket.

(also in the UK it was great, I paid nothing and was in the catchment area for a really quiet GP who would have blood test results back the same day)

And my Swiss insurance covers anything and everything - dental, emergency, sports, transportation, accommodation for family / visitors. There's no pre authorisation, you just go to a doctor and they order the tests THEY want to do. No "You have to do this before we'll fund this". You basically need British NHS attitudes with Swiss healthcare.
 
What IS crazy is thinking that you're the guy who needs to do it
It's crazy to run into a burning building to save a child when someone else might do it. It's crazy to donate a kidney to your sister when a donation might become available from some unfortunate brain dead person. It's crazy for men to volunteer to die on foreign soil to defend their country when they have the means to fake a medical exemption. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
 
“He’s Italian, let’s go easy on him and make him eat pineapple pizza & drink Americano for one year” lol winner of Last Chink Comic Standing.



The only?? Well since you brought it up, I've been to Japan & have a relative that moved there years ago after marrying a Japanese girl he met in college. Whenever he visits here he's disturbed by how fucked up things have gotten in the States. The other day he lined me this:

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Ever get the feeling you're being ripped off? It's not so simple as dysfunction in one sector, but there's no excuse for the state of US healthcare. Only radical changes will set it right & I don't see that ever happening, dead vampire or no. Also...$400/yr auto insurance. I pay over twice that for the same coverage and my car is 18 years old. $300/yr home insurance??...time to apply for a residency visa & dust off those Japanese With Ease books. I'm Nippon soyjackin hard, desu.
Yup, I'm lucky I make a good living, or I'd be screwed with my ultra rare disorder. I know there's a lot of price gouging going on in the US, but you also have to remember that our rates are also jacked up because of all the illnesses we bring upon ourselves..and a the fucking moochers we're also supporting. Insurance companies no longer charge individual rates, they charge based on the average American being an uninsured lard ass and pass off the cost to consumers.

It's crazy to run into a burning building to save a child when someone else might do it. It's crazy to donate a kidney to your sister when a donation might become available from some unfortunate brain dead person. It's crazy for men to volunteer to die on foreign soil to defend their country when they have the means to fake a medical exemption. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
With all the evidence presented, you still act like Squigi is a noble minded hero guided by the suffering of the common man. He's not. He's unfortunately a radical, who could have used his money and intelligence to make a bigger impact than taking out low hanging fruit. This murder didn't even make a difference and just proved that CEOs are also expendable and replaceable.


Luigi is mentally ill, I think you have to be to kill someone outside of a self-defence scenario. I'm sure anyone who lived/lives with chronic pain will tell you that they've had murderous/suicidal thoughts if they thought that it could get them out of the pain. There's a few studies on people with chronic pain being at heightened risk of psychosis. (https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/chronic-pain-and-mental-health-interconnected , https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920996416301803 , https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4876223 )

The extent of his mental illness might end up being the deciding factor in his fitness to stand trial. Maybe he's genuinely delusional, maybe he keeps suffering from pain-related psychosis. We don't know anything until it comes from his / a medical professional's mouth. You'll hide your pain around friends, no one wants to hear that you're lying awake at night popping pills just to get to sleep. You are the best narrator of your own body than anyone else.

I believe he's mentally fucked up, just not in that way. More like a hunter who needs an excuse to kill. All of his friends coming forward and making these claims about him being in chronic pain strike me as odd and are just way too specific. I used to run a post op ortho/neuro floor, so we did several spinal surgeries on old and to a lesser extent younger people. People with chronic pain don't get on surfboards for lessons like Luigi's friend was saying. They don't get shoved up against walls and not cry out in pain. If you have that amount of pain any little flexion or extension of the spine could potentially knock someone out due to pain. I've seen it happen before.
 
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With all the evidence presented, you still act like Squigi is a noble minded hero guided by the suffering of the common man. He's not. He's unfortunately a radical, who could have used his money and intelligence to make a bigger impact than taking out low hanging fruit. This murder didn't even make a difference and just proved that CEOs are also expendable and replaceable
A hero doesn't need to believe in some noble goal, only bring it closer to fruition. I literally just brought up how oftentimes selfish actions end up helping things more than ones done out of some desire to help. Small actions have big knock-on effects, history tells us this time and again. Do you know how many significant events in history seemed insignificant at the time? Quit acting like you know the future any more than the rest of us, because you don't. Stop getting caught up in the small details and try to learn to see the bigger picture, it makes life so much more bearable for both yourself and those around you.
I believe he's mentally fucked up, just not in that way. More like a hunter who needs an excuse to kill. All of his friends coming forward and making these claims about him being in chronic pain strike me as odd and are just way too specific. I used to run a post op ortho/neuro floor, so we did several spinal surgeries on old and to a lesser extent younger people. People with chronic pain don't get on surfboards for lessons like Luigi's friend was saying. They don't get shoved up against walls and not cry out in pain. If you have that amount of pain any little flexion or extension of the spine could potentially knock someone out due to pain. I've seen it happen before.
You admit you have experience dealing with people who suffer from chronic pain, so you should know that not everyone responds the same to it. For some people, it drives them to the normally-unthinkable, like an animal chewing off its paw when caught in a trap. Desperation and despair make people do crazy things. I won't pretend to know his true motives, and neither should you.
 
You admit you have experience dealing with people who suffer from chronic pain, so you should know that not everyone responds the same to it. For some people, it drives them to the normally-unthinkable, like an animal chewing off its paw when caught in a trap. Desperation and despair make people do crazy things. I won't pretend to know his true motives, and neither should you
My hx treating people with chronic pain and having a condition that caused me chronic pain for a while also helped me to develop a built in bullshit detector to know when people are in chronic pain versus when they're just addicted to opioids or using chronic pain as an excuse to be selfish. While people respond differently, I've never seen a chronic pain sufferer orchestrate a murder, then escape, and have a plan to possibly escape the country. I did have a patient who had a revision spinal fusion drive himself in a convertible through a brick wall to end the pain. The problem being, spinal surgeries are horrible and usually don't solve any problem, a lot of the time, they make matters worse. Any sane person would say to themselves, doctors need to be more transparent when educating patients and insurance companies just shuffle money around. I believe Luigi is insane but not in chronic pain.

While I do have empathy for Lugi's condition, I know enough about human behavior to spot BS when it's literally taken out of your rectum after a vigorous fingering and rubbed under your nose in the shape of a Mustache.
 
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“He’s Italian, let’s go easy on him and make him eat pineapple pizza & drink Americano for one year” lol winner of Last Chink Comic Standing.



The only?? Well since you brought it up, I've been to Japan & have a relative that moved there years ago after marrying a Japanese girl he met in college. Whenever he visits here he's disturbed by how fucked up things have gotten in the States. The other day he lined me this:

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Ever get the feeling you're being ripped off? It's not so simple as dysfunction in one sector, but there's no excuse for the state of US healthcare. Only radical changes will set it right & I don't see that ever happening, dead vampire or no. Also...$400/yr auto insurance. I pay over twice that for the same coverage and my car is 18 years old. $300/yr home insurance??...time to apply for a residency visa & dust off those Japanese With Ease books. I'm Nippon soyjackin hard, desu.
Alot of it is also the accredidation system for hospitals if I remember right. They have absolutely retarded rules about needing almost all equipment to be up to date. So if a hospital has an old MRI machine and it still works their credentials can still gets ripped if it's over X years old. So they have to buy some 2 million dollar machine to replace a perfectly fine one that's just a little old. At least that's what I've been told.

What I don't get is why there is insurance in the first place. Why isn't it just set up so there is a county or city wide "Health society" or something where everyone can go, sign up for a subscribption and all the money is pooled to pay the doctors their salary and they just treat whoever lives in that city. Instead of having some retarded middle man who does nothing but find ways to bilk people? If the doctors and healthcare workers hate the insurance people so much why don't they unionize and tell the insurance providers to pound sand up the eye of their cocks?
 
It's crazy to run into a burning building to save a child when someone else might do it. It's crazy to donate a kidney to your sister when a donation might become available from some unfortunate brain dead person. It's crazy for men to volunteer to die on foreign soil to defend their country when they have the means to fake a medical exemption. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
This is one huge false equivalency. All of these are immediate and recognizable emergencies, most of which would affect you directly.

The burning building is right in your face, and you can hear the screams of the children. Self-sacrifice and bravery is reckless, but not insane.

The kidney, it's your sister, you can see her decline, there's family pressure, and you'd miss her if she died. Again, self-sacrifice, much less reckless than the burning building, not insane.

The war, there's video of it, and depending on the situation, you may believe that the outcome may effective your own livelihood and freedom, as well as all of your compatriot, for generations to come. Self-sacrificing, high recklessness, but not insane.

Nobody asked Luigi Mangione to kill this guy. There was no family pressure, no publicly displayed motivating factors for him to do it. There were no videos of dying civilians urging him forward. He just decided to do it on his own, with no external factors urging him to do it. He knew it was illegal, if not wrong, and tried to cover his tracks, although he failed. Reckless, not intentionally self-sacrificing, not an obvious, direct emergency, no external motivation factor other than his own will, so yeah, nutty.

As for the "only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" platitude you put in there at the end, well, you go first buddy. You go first. Imho "evil" is just as subjective as "justice" a lot of the time. I don't appoint myself the arbiter of good and evil, that's for God to do. Beware of your own hubris, it will lead you astray.
 
The war, there's video of it, and depending on the situation

no publicly displayed motivating factors
I wouldn't normally bother responding to this sort of post (and I acknowledge I'm not responding to a lot of your points) but are you seriously suggesting people need to see things in order to make decisions around morality, rather than just thinking about them? Do you lack object permanence and need to be spoon-fed something from the media?
 
This is one huge false equivalency. All of these are immediate and recognizable emergencies, most of which would affect you directly.

The burning building is right in your face, and you can hear the screams of the children. Self-sacrifice and bravery is reckless, but not insane.

The kidney, it's your sister, you can see her decline, there's family pressure, and you'd miss her if she died. Again, self-sacrifice, much less reckless than the burning building, not insane.

The war, there's video of it, and depending on the situation, you may believe that the outcome may effective your own livelihood and freedom, as well as all of your compatriot, for generations to come. Self-sacrificing, high recklessness, but not insane.
Slow and secret is the definition of pernicious. You're splitting hairs to allow for good violence while condemning vigilantism. You're drawing misapplied distinctions and distinctions without a difference.
Nobody asked Luigi Mangione to kill this guy. There was no family pressure, no publicly displayed motivating factors for him to do it. There were no videos of dying civilians urging him forward. He just decided to do it on his own, with no external factors urging him to do it. He knew it was illegal, if not wrong, and tried to cover his tracks, although he failed. Reckless, not intentionally self-sacrificing, not an obvious, direct emergency, no external motivation factor other than his own will, so yeah, nutty.
"Violence is the language of the unheard", "no justice no peace", yadda yadda. The grief of all those factors cried out for justice, not necessarily directly to someone to take action, except perhaps G-d. Oh wow, someone asking him would make it just? Oh, video of it and its just fine? I doubt you've examined your own position.
As for the "only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" platitude you put in there at the end, well, you go first buddy. You go first.
I don't appoint myself the arbiter of good and evil, that's for God to do. Beware of your own hubris, it will lead you astray.
Those were two retarded platitudes you just used. And which G-d? Which is to ask, which standard? If the Bible, one of the Noahide commandments is to establish courts of justice, so yes, it is your job to figure this stuff out. The role of avenger was also specified in the Pentateuch.
Imho "evil" is just as subjective as "justice" a lot of the time.
If you think that, what value is there in anything you say.
 
It's not crazy thinking that somebody like Brian Thompson needs to die. What IS crazy is thinking that you're the guy who needs to do it, making an intricate plan, and carrying the plan out to completion. That's not normal (even if it's based).
Then we should normalize it. We've taken a step towards that, at least: this incident is normalizing the opinion "health insurance CEOs deserve to be murdered." I personally know people all over the political spectrum, and we all have found common ground in cheering Luigi on.
 
If you think that, what value is there in anything you say.
Well, let me clarify it for you then: do you believe it's evil to give children puberty blockers at a young age? I do; you probably do too. And yet, there is a large block of people who think it's evil to WITHHOLD the puberty blockers, that it's driving children to suicide, that it's evil, and sometimes the courts are backing this up.

So who is right? Naturally, I believe that I'M right, but these people believe no less fervently that THEY are right. Thus, the "evil" of puberty blockers is subjective, depending on which side of the argument you fall on, and "justice" is also subjective, because one person's "justice" is another person's "evil", again, depending on which side of the argument you fall on.

As for "which God?" it's whatever God or gods you believe in. I don't believe any of them were too fond of hubris, or humans usurping the powers and privileges of the gods. From Norse mythology straight through the Bible, there are many stories about the gods or God slapping humans down for flying too close to the sun. Ymmv.
 
I will say, as it is unlikely for the class consciousness to keep up (hope I'm wrong), this situation really has both classes unite.

On the rich side we have Zion Don kveching about how people shouldn't like Luigi while Kathy Hochul is making sure that there's secret police forces to save the precious CEOs.

Meanwhile on the side of the common people, there's unity from both political sides that at best are celebrating Luigi, and at worst, are sharing their horror stories of how the Health Insurance industry is fucking them over. Of course, I'm ignoring all the bootlickers who worship the rich.
 
On the rich side we have Zion Don kveching about how people shouldn't like Luigi while Kathy Hochul is making sure that there's secret police forces to save the precious CEOs.
The only Donald Trump I've seen even comment on it was Jr., is that who you were talking about? If so, I definitely agree that he's a retard and there's a reason Donald Sr. usually keeps him away from the media.
 
The only Donald Trump I've seen even comment on it was Jr., is that who you were talking about? If so, I definitely agree that he's a retard and there's a reason Donald Sr. usually keeps him away from the media.
Well his daddy did comment today

 
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