UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

but his social media shit
he clearly deleted a ton of shit, and from what little has been found, especially from his substack subscriptions by you its obvious he was center-right at minimum. his language usage also shows that as does family background. no lefty whines about the evils of porn and way fewer call out japan for being all bugmen post-#stopasianhate

And while he might not have supported a political party, again he clearly deleted thousands of tweets and its hard to believe he never posted anything about current events ever in his entire life. even his own blog's title seems heavily similar to #moreplatesmoredates in a way that spells that he was clearly part of the fit-right/manosphere in a way people don't want to admit. none of his views really seem to shout "leftist!" at all, the pro-corporation style romney republicans don't exist in the under 30 sphere, so retards using that as proof he might be a lefty might as well point out luigi not saying anything about slavery in the southern us as proof he might be a democrat.

even the intellectual curiosity is very much in flavor with a good chunk of the right. think pewdiepie's book club or #moreplatesmoredates book club or the books lex friedman has people reading. none of it is new unless you haven't been paying attention.
It's also the same with the YouTube shooter - tons of people insisted it was 100% going to be a right wing, white male.
and if you read the tread here it was obviously just an iranian lolcow who admittedly did have valid complaints about the algo fucking her and just went about it the wrong way but if you've dealt with modern customer service it feels deserved to at least try to bring a gun to their offices.
This idea that people who are either so off the deep end or so intelligent that they're willing to basically throw away their life (either by dying or by being arrested for eternity) are going to be discovered and have a perfect set of social media profiles that match exactly what you expect is delusional.
i didn't really go into this with any notions but its not that shocking that a white guy willing to murder someone is a right wing guy with tastes clearly evoking the Bronze Age Mindset, (which we have a thread on those fucks and their literal advocacy of vigilantism) arguably the only real shock is how handsome and built the guy is but like he's a guy in his 20s from the upper class and has been to the gym most of his life.
I could fathom the role of glowies being more likely,
just read through the highlights of the thread dude, we have cell phone signatures of someone traveling back and forth from dc to the shooting range the kid was only at a few times on the exact days he went.
 
This event 100% had way more impact than voting or "political violence" (meaning threats or actual violence against politicians or political parties) would have ever had.
Right, because the politicians are just the proxies. Killing them doesn't do anything when the Brian Thompsons of the world can just purchase a replacement and stock the federal agencies with their revolving-door candidates. Killing the corrupt elites who own the politicians goes right to the root of the problem and shows they're not invincible.

It's incredible how terrified the reaction was to this. Reminds me a bit of Ceausescu's downfall when he suddenly realized the people actually really, really hated him and wanted his head. And they got it.
 
he clearly deleted a ton of shit, and from what little has been found, especially from his substack subscriptions by you its obvious he was center-right at minimum. his language usage also shows that as does family background. no lefty whines about the evils of porn and way fewer call out japan for being all bugmen post-#stopasianhate
You don't know that he deleted a ton of shit though. It's certainly very plausible though. But many people who have tweeter accounts and follow substacks don't write that many tweets or write themselves.

What is known - I linked to some bot that detected changes if his tweeter account name or description or some shit. Is that on the 9th of December he changed "UPenn" to "Penn".

The other part that isn't known is whether this guy who has the intelligence to print a ghost gun etc had dozens of pseudonyms online. One Reddit account was found but that's about it AFAIK - the rest of what people think about him hinges on a tweeter account that used his real name. Given he worked in software and lived in the US it is highly plausible that he never wrote his true political feelings online because it can really, really fuck your career options.

Also "center-right at minimum" - I won't argue strongly against this because I really don't care about politics and think labels like these for someone like this have no value whatsoever, but I would say if he was a part of any group then it was just an informal belonging to TPOT. Which is more of just a signal that someone likes to read and question things than it is about being a political position.

and if you read the tread here it was obviously just an iranian lolcow who admittedly did have valid complaints about the algo fucking her and just went about it the wrong way but if you've dealt with modern customer service it feels deserved to at least try to bring a gun to their offices.
Yes I have read the thread. I did an extensive amount of archiving etc and shared many thoughts on that thread when it happened. So although I may not be correct I have read the source material very well - her rabbit had died a few weeks/months previously also and she was particularly fond of it.

ust read through the highlights of the thread dude, we have cell phone signatures of someone traveling back and forth from dc to the shooting range the kid was only at a few times on the exact days he went
I'll go read through it, as I mentioned I'm not super well read into that situation because I found it kinda boring. I still don't think that kind of data is exactly a smoking gun because a real glowie would have a burner phone and probably be based somewhere that isn't DC (but then again, the government isn't known for sending its best)

just read through the highlights of the thread dude, we have cell phone signatures of someone traveling back and forth from dc to the shooting range the kid was only at a few times on the exact days he went.
I cant find this anywhere. Unless it's worded differently. Do you have a link? It really just sounds like he was an edgy/depressed autistic teenager who fucked around with guns a lot and trained at a facility that the police and various government departments also used. He got exceptionally lucky to find a spot to shoot from (but then again seems like he anticipated dying)

The only thing I found that was interesting was that he supposedly had encrypted messaging accounts and no one knows what they were used for - but that isn't indicative or glowies either. If they were even used it could just be that he got involved with some shitty clandestine political group who pushed him to do the shooting or he was just involved with the "wrong crowd" online. That isn't that unbelievable either because a few school shooters have been known to have had contact with other school shooters.

It mostly just reeks of police, secret service and government incompetence through and through.

You and many others say "glowie ops" and "deleted profiles" - I say that the past few decades were the halcyon days where the police etc had unprecedented access to data and other things and there weren't as many people driven to insanity by the internet and politics. The police used to have actual answers about stuff and used things like psychological profiles and all sorts of shit... but in this day and age it's not that easy.

I think you should also consider the role fame alone plays in things and try to ignore politics and the police sometimes - when people become hyper famous there are people who desire to harm them, not to actually achieve anything but just because they can form extreme parasocial relationships or just have very bizarre shit happening in their head (and not saying that that was the case there but it can definitely be a consideration)

This kind of stuff was a lot rarer not that long ago but now there are more celebrities than ever and there are more talking heads on the TV and more pundits on social media who never shut the fuck up. It has definitely impacted things and I personally have a hard time believing there is a glowie angle to every single fucking thing that happens because almost every politician and every government has proven themselves to be terminally and comedically incompetent throughout history.

And if you really were a glowie trying to make something happen would you really pick a fucking dorky autistic looking teenager as the prime candidate, make him do months of shooting practice and have him not even be able to make the shot? Or would you just do shit like plant false evidence or whatever other shit you have in your playbook.
 
McVeigh had a documented IQ in the low 80s he was almost quite literally an actual retard who was in no way shape or form capable of building a complex explosive device and infiltrating a federal building.

Even if it wasn't a literal fedop he was almost certainly a patsy for someone else.
You know what you need to do to have a "documented IQ" of 80? Apply for an IQ test and then just don't fill (some of) it out. Anything "documented" just means that someone wrote it on a piece of paper, no relation to truth whatsoever.
 
You know what you need to do to have a "documented IQ" of 80? Apply for an IQ test and then just don't fill (some of) it out. Anything "documented" just means that someone wrote it on a piece of paper, no relation to truth whatsoever.
This is the problem with half of these discussions and the frequent glow ops claims. I went and searched mcveighs IQ and saw a reference that a defense psychiatrist found him to have a high IQ but suffered from depression.

I can't find any reference to him having an IQ of 80 anyway. A cursory 30 second search doesn't show this and brings up contradictory claims and asking an AI states his IQ was a number above 120.

The real glowops seem to possibly be the people intentionally or unintentionally sowing false or completely unattributed information into discussions like these.
 
The guy who shared several emails with Luigi (I reposted them all here) and had a video call with him said he would write an article about Luigi.

He has released an article about empathy and how women are weak when it comes to empathy and a whole bunch of other things. It isn't about Luigi, but it does mention the shooting. It also mentions the role of the internet and fame on high profile criminal court cases.

Sharing because this may be the article he was intending on releasing which I guess is a caution that all the women grabbing their panties and Hitachi wands because of Luigi's appearance and action may be being ever so slightly irrational: https://www.gurwinder.blog/p/how-empathy-makes-us-cruel-and-crazy

It's interesting and relevant reading regardless but if he does drop an article specifically about Luigi then I'll share it here also (I believe he had made a tweet inferring some stuff about Luigi's mental state so I'm not sure this is "the article")


Edit: the author states that he will publish his thoughts about Luigi in "due course" so this isn't the article about Luigi but is still pertinent and maybe will explain to some of the incels reading here that women are irrational and emotional beings lol: https://x.com/G_S_Bhogal/status/1867959780868026840?t=qgYCuuH5dtq1EzjZvS2PCQ&s=19
 
Sharing because this may be the article he was intending on releasing which I guess is a caution that all the women grabbing their panties and Hitachi wands because of Luigi's appearance and action may be being ever so slightly irrational: https://www.gurwinder.blog/p/how-empathy-makes-us-cruel-and-crazy
WHAT!!!! HOW DARE HE!!!!
no, but honestly, I'm not even the worst I've seen on social media. there are group chats full of women making genuine plans to protest outside his jail. i saw a reel of a shaved head "enby femme" who was going to defer a class to use the tuition to donate to his legal fund. At least I'm satisfied with shitposting.

Kim Kardashian is a genuine retard; that's why she supports the Menendez brothers. I think this is just the regular social contagion that comes with any hot criminal, no matter his crime. Shit, if you were on Tumblr during Dylann Roof then you'll remember what a cesspool that was of flower crowns and smut.

Luigi is mentally ill, I think you have to be to kill someone outside of a self-defence scenario. I'm sure anyone who lived/lives with chronic pain will tell you that they've had murderous/suicidal thoughts if they thought that it could get them out of the pain. There's a few studies on people with chronic pain being at heightened risk of psychosis. (https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/chronic-pain-and-mental-health-interconnected , https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920996416301803 , https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4876223 )

The extent of his mental illness might end up being the deciding factor in his fitness to stand trial. Maybe he's genuinely delusional, maybe he keeps suffering from pain-related psychosis. We don't know anything until it comes from his / a medical professional's mouth. You'll hide your pain around friends, no one wants to hear that you're lying awake at night popping pills just to get to sleep. You are the best narrator of your own body than anyone else.
 
Luigi is mentally ill, I think you have to be to kill someone outside of a self-defence scenario.
It's honestly going to be probably the biggest deciding question/factor in all of this I think. Because, as some other people have also stated in this thread, what he did was either completely insane or the most rational and precise thing anyone has done in ages.

Whether we actually get a clear answer on it, especially given the amount of media attention and lack of information about what he was doing when he disappeared for a few months, is a very big question.

If anyone comes out with some sort of story stating what he was doing or what his mental state was I think it may get questioned or even discarded at this point (assuming it is even true in the first place and assuming it hasn't been totally biased by the media attention this has gotten).

It kinda seems like him "disappearing" was him totally
Isolating and sort of meditating for a few months - so it's possible the only answers that we'll ever get will be from Luigi himself.
 
Where are you getting that information from? He liked to hack computers for fun with some buddies when he was younger and Uncle Ted talked to him a lot in prison and thought he was an intelligent guy.
Wikipedia says 126, but since the source is a physical book I don't have, I wouldn't trust it. But he was generally regarded as fairly intelligent.
 
This is the problem with half of these discussions and the frequent glow ops claims. I went and searched mcveighs IQ and saw a reference that a defense psychiatrist found him to have a high IQ but suffered from depression.

I can't find any reference to him having an IQ of 80 anyway. A cursory 30 second search doesn't show this and brings up contradictory claims and asking an AI states his IQ was a number above 120.

The real glowops seem to possibly be the people intentionally or unintentionally sowing false or completely unattributed information into discussions like these.
Exactly, he was very intelligent from everything I’ve seen and read. He definitely could have made the bomb on his own, and I sometimes think the government would like us to think otherwise because it shows the American people that they can strike against tyranny easier than they might think.
 
For the Luigi-wives in this thread, you can send him mail at:

Luigi Mangione
Huntingdon County Prison
300 Church Street
Huntingdon, PA 16652

Inmate number: QQ7787

and he'd still have fangirls lining up to excuse what he did and suck his dick. Such is the life of the physically attractive male.
This is so funny. Anyway.
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I love my babygirlified Luigi <3
 
He has released an article about empathy and how women are weak when it comes to empathy and a whole bunch of other things.
Man, I really wanted to read that post but it is hard to power through something this retarded. This incel-type of thinking is so infuriating. The guy has an interesting observation (a few cases where the criminals were percieved as didndu by the public, as faciliatated by the media) and instead of discussing the halo effect, the ethics of media misrepresenting stories and spreading inaccuracies for profit, the implications of the US justice system being broken enough that this shit can happen, etc... No, instead he zeroes in on WAHMEN BAD and somehow spins a story about how it's women's fault the world is fucked. People with a chip on their shoulder are so annoying to suffer through.

Also, I spit on this dude for giving interviews and sharing his private emails with Luigi for his 5 seconds of fame, and to build some sort of credibility and fame for himself. How is he better than the attention whoring women he seems to hate so much? Clownery.
Luigi is mentally ill,
But what if he isn't? Genuenly, I believe in 99% of cases a murderer is either crazy or evil, but when you murder a CEO who has so much blood on his hands, whose decisioning perhaps ruined the life of your loved ones (or your own) where is the evil? Where is the crazy? I am much like you, a shitposter, who is intrigued by this whole thing. I am not hornyposting, but I may be idealismposting or something, idk...
 
But what if he isn't?
Shhh, girl. Please. I need him to get an insanity plea, I can't get a green card if he's in prison.

But honestly, I don't think he's "crazy" in the conventional sense of the word. I genuinely think that he's been suffering with pain, and had psychosis - he might've genuinely believed that the only way to get rid of his pain was to kill the CEO. I don't think he did this for the good of humanity, but rather as a way of punishing the figurehead of the industry who had put him through inhuman pain. UHC are the largest healthcare company in the world, and make $106,000,000,000 more a year than the next richest company.

I really like the musical Les Miserables, but I was pissed off by how bad the 2012 film adaptation was. Would I kill Russell Crowe because of his singing? Probably not, he was an actor. Would I kill William Nicholson? No, because he was just the screenwriter, he didn't tell Russell Crowe to sing like he had a cock stuck in his throat. I would kill Tom Hooper, the director.

You don't go for the slaves, you go for the masser.
 
I don't think he did this for the good of humanity, but rather as a way of punishing the figurehead of the industry who had put him through inhuman pain
That's the crazy thing about how life goes. More often than not, the people who go in wanting to save the world do the most damage, and the people who go in with selfish motivations do the most good.
 
there are group chats full of women making genuine plans to protest outside his jail. i saw a reel of a shaved head "enby femme" who was going to defer a class to use the tuition to donate to his legal fund.
Isn't this how Charles Manson got his start? If Luigi had waited around a little bit, he probably could have sent carloads of "shaved head enby femmes" to the homes of various CEO's....
 
I don't think he did this for the good of humanity, but rather as a way of punishing the figurehead of the industry who had put him through inhuman pain. UHC are the largest healthcare company in the world, and make $106,000,000,000 more a year than the next richest company.

That's the crazy thing about how life goes. More often than not, the people who go in wanting to save the world do the most damage, and the people who go in with selfish motivations do the most good.
I think this is something that a lot of Luigi’s ayylawgs and haydurs keep missing: who gives a fuck who actually did it or why? We don’t even have concrete proof that the evidence they found is actually legitimate, and probably never will, but in the grand scheme of things it really doesn’t matter. The man did something objectively based that benefits the average citizen by putting elites in panic mode, and sent a message that even they’re not safe from the consequences of their own actions, but for all we actually know it could have just been done out of a good old fashioned desire for revenge. That’s what makes this situation so fascinating, and that’s why people admire what he did (aside from the fact that he’s hot, I see you Helvetia).
 
its obvious he was center-right at minimum
He's certainly not left wing but I don't think he's right wing either. Some of his beliefs simply don't map well to a left/right paradigm. He seemingly was Tedpilled while simultaneously being kind of a tech bro. He condemns DEI and pornography but seems to be a bisexual who listens to Charli XCX (he's so julia). He praised Tucker Carlson while following AOC. The best description I've seen of him is "grey tribe". I guess you could call that right wing, but that's only because anyone who fails left wing purity testing tends to get classed as right wing. His particular set of political opinions are too nuanced (or schizo) to be common enough to have a label, and any label you apply to him won't tell you anything meaningful about his beliefs or values. That's why left wing grifters can label him a problematic alt-right chud who hates minorities, while right wing grifters can label him a liberal wacko committed to Marxist brutality.

I'm sure he's fascinating to talk to. Or he would be, if you could focus on what he was saying, rather than getting lost in his eyes.

Luigi is mentally ill, I think you have to be to kill someone outside of a self-defence scenario
Going back to Uncle Ted, there's an argument to be made that many people in society are oversocialised - basically a bit like the NPC. There's plenty of biologists and psychologists who argue we're suffering from domestication syndrome, that modern society is basically like a human zoo that's at odds with the situation we evolved to cope with and we display stereotypies/displacement behaviours like a tiger in a cage.

Even Freud argued a lot of mental illness wasn't really pathological and it was more about social mores labelling them unacceptable and then ensuing distress - "society is a triumph for humanity but a tragedy for the individual". We would classify Luigi as having a pathology because a vendetta / katakiuchi / gjakmarrja / fæhð / badal is considered incompatible with our cultural values. The problem is the CEOs have enough power to avoid paying their Wergild. What counts as mental illnesss depends on culture - if I think I've been cursed by a witch or can speak with angels, I'd be delusional, but a person from 16th Century England or modern day Nigeria wouldn't meet the threshold for delusion because their culture affirms those beliefs. Luigi therefore is not necessarily mentally ill even if our current framework may label him as such.
 
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