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So I just saw Memoir of a Snail and I thought it was really good!

I'm hoping this gets recognition of some kind cause I'm sick of the bigger studios getting grandfathered into having quality and mass appeal.
That being said I don't think it's as good as Mary and Max, and in retrospect it has a little too much of that movie in its DNA, meaning simply it feels like there isn't much to enjoy about this movie that Mary and Max doesn't do better. That might not be a fair comparison but it stuck out to me through much of the run time. You can even predict certain beats are going to happen if you've been paying attention. I.E. a lot of good stuff has been happening to the main character so something tragic is about to happen in the next 5 minutes. It even has a moment from Mary and Max that goes verbatim the same way.

But all that considered I'm happy to have a new stop motion movie with deep adult themes and I hope this movie does well.
Like the movie a lot as well. It's just nice like you said to watch a movie for adults that's also animated and makes you think about stuff. Her fiancé turning out to be into feederism was not the plot twist I was expecting lmao
 
Cross-posting from the Flashgitz Appreciation Thread to give ya'll another whitepill.

Space King Episode 2 is out.


Remember kiwis,
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Found this smooth clip from ye olde Simpsons. Some Enchanted Evening, last episode of the first season. While it was the first episode produced for season one and meant to air as the series premiere, animation problems pushed it back to the season finale. Apparently, this is the only instance of smooth animation in the whole episode.
Yep, that scene was animated by Dan Haskett, who did tons of work in his career.
 
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Korra did TLJ-style sequels before TLJ
  • character assassinated legacy characters
  • got rid of the unique feel of the series
  • unlikable main character who masters a martial art way too quickly
  • themes are barely explored but fans still praise them for their themes anyway
  • made us watch as legacy characters not just get killed but have their conscience erased from existence
  • dumbed down the magic system to be easily mastered and performed
Completely wasted Amon. Who did nothing wrong.
 
Besides the best female castlevania character is Shanoa. It's just a fact.
Agreed, that whole game is a banger. My favorite villan in Castlevania is Albus.

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The dude is straight ride or die for Shanoa. When they try to sacrifice her, he immediately betrays the order, and steals the order's most important artifacts. From there he immediately dives into unethical human experiments, and mastering the artifacts until they inevitably corrupt him. The twist is that he never really wanted power for himself, just the chance to die in his friend's place. At the end of the game, he gets that chance, and he does it in exchange for a last smile from Shanoa.


Absolute Chad.
 
Happy 900 pages everybody!

I'd usually post a historic or significant animation first, before it was the first claymation, the first computer generated animated images, what to post this time?



A test pilot for am animated series based on rob liefeld's 90s super extreme/super edgy comic Youngblood. Supposedly the only reason it never went any further is because fox already had xmen, and spiderman tas, and upn turned it down in favor of an ultraverse cartoon that did get made.



It's interesting to see robs 90s characters with a little spit and polish CAN look good and when actual backgrounds are shown and not blank white and jagged speed lines.


Lastly I am curious how they'd would have handled some of the heavier stuff the comics had, (chapel having AIDS, the fact that the characters regularly killed the villians, the gruesome deaths, all that 90s super edgy extreme cheese)
 
I have, and I thought Adult Swim shows were supposed to be funny and entertaining, not preachy and pretentious. For those of you that haven’t heard of it Here is the trailer
While the trailer looks pretty shit, Mike Judge appears to be in it, as the bad guy, and while it would be embarrassing to be in it if it sucks, he's usually had somewhat good taste. So it would be a rare misstep if it really sucks as much as the trailer. The concept itself doesn't look bad, although I think David Firth actually did this already in a way that would be hard to beat.

That is, the what happens to you if you actually do create something that cures everything.
"Shut it down."
 
https://screenrant.com/moana-2-box-office-opening-records/
Do you sometimes hate people to the point where it becomes unreal?
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I absolutely despise the fact that disney can just pump out live action DEI schlock like the little mermaid, the lion king and that upcoming snow white movie, lose lots of money but then regain all the profits back by making another frozen or moana sequel scoring billions in profit as if they never lost any money from their idiotic mistakes.
 
That is, the what happens to you if you actually do create something that cures everything.
"Shut it down."
Really bad example dude. That film by David Firth is just misery porn. I'm sure Mike Judge's new show will expand upon the concept of a miracle cure much more than simply saying, "The rich and wealthy are bad" and "People are stupid."
 
From the Brink to the Big Screen: How the Looney Tunes Film Defied the Odds

An interview with director Peter Browngardt.

But Looney Tunes had 40 years with the classic directors and they played a lot with the style in the old shorts, with more graphics backgrounds, more lush backgrounds. Even with the characters, you could always see the hand of the director or the animator in the designs. It was never a rigid copy-and-paste model, it was very organic.

We did a lot of homework for the film. I got every Looney Tune short. There are 1,030 or something, and not all are available but there are people that have ways of getting them, getting copies. I wanted them as Quick Time videos on our servers for this project, so we could all reference them. It was like having the instruction manual at your fingertips. We did a lot of crew meetings where we watched the shorts, we studied them, we broke the characters down, how they moved, and how they talked.

This is what it's like when cartoonists are in charge of a cartoon production, as opposed to just illustrating scripts written by failed sitcom writers, or "comedians" who were able to get their foot in the door thanks to friends and influence, or total nepo hires, with minimal authority of their own to add or alter anything, having to follow production notes from sociopathic studio execs like "make sure Foghorn Leghorn doesn't overshadow John Cena".
 
Yep, that scene was animated by Dan Haskett, who did tons of work in his career.
Yep, I wonder how many people got into animation because they saw these..
Apparently he was the character designer for Ariel and Ursula in The Little Mermaid (1989) and Belle in Beauty and the Beast (1991)?! It definitely shows. The "which key fits?" animation in particular reminds me of Lilo & Stitch.
 
And where's the castle? The castle is the other main antagonist, it's in the title.
Netflixvania toned down the supernatural elements as far as they could. Almost everything is explained with "THE SCIENCE" and anything that looks like magic is handwaved as some advanced BS that mortals just can't understand.

Unless it's African magic off course. Because black African gods are just the best and fuck the Christian God.
 
The end of the interview with Browngardt confirms something I and others have suspected, that WB has done such a poor job keeping these characters in the public eye over the last twenty years that most kids don't even know who Daffy Duck is.

I wouldn’t hold your breath. But that’s above my pay grade. I left the studio in February, literally, the day I approved the final version of the film was my last day at Warner Brothers. So I don’t know what the future is with Looney Tunes, with that company, or that world. But I think if you put those characters in the right hands, it would have a great future. I had a wonderful time, a wonderful experience making this movie. And I feel you could make a Looney Tunes movie out of any of those properties. The only obstacle, and I found this out when I was in some testing groups for the Looney Tunes shorts program, was that a lot of kids don’t know who Daffy Duck is. Disney’s always been good at keeping Mickey Mouse front and center with the young generation, that is why they have their preschool show and those different tiers of Mickey shows. Warner Brothers didn’t do that with Looney Tunes. And I think it’s been a mistake because, in my opinion, the Looney Tunes are much better characters.

These kids today know of the Disney characters, Scooby-Doo, Tom & Jerry, etc. etc. because they're everywhere. WB used to market Looney Tunes like this in the '90s but once Back in Action bombed, suddenly it was curtains. The Looney Tunes library becoming exclusive to Cartoon Network in 2000 and subsequently being dropped in 2004 when Back in Action flopped was one a really bad thing to happen to American animation.
 
Netflixvania toned down the supernatural elements as far as they could. Almost everything is explained with "THE SCIENCE" and anything that looks like magic is handwaved as some advanced BS that mortals just can't understand.

Unless it's African magic off course. Because black African gods are just the best and fuck the Christian God.
Warren Ellis is like a better looking, healthier and relatively more successful Bob Chipman.
 
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