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It's very good and I like how they show what it's like having a psyker primarch
Hiding part of his soul in your memories etc
It's all very cool
Ari dunking on necron phaerons also based
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Hiding part of his soul in your memories etc
It's all very cool
Ari dunking on necron phaerons also based
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When I saw the roadmap that horde mode doesn't come until Q42025 I knew this wasn't gonna be good.
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To give them some slack they seriously underestimated how popular it would be. This game apparently had less of a budget then world war z
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Christmas MTO preorders are going to be terrain and battlefield objectives
That stasis crypt and medicae station have a lot of potential, I think I can make something truly horrific with those bits.
It is retarded to launch a game like this without horde mode, plain and simple. I can forgive not being allowed to maim, kill and burn in the name of the Dark Gods because that reeks of GW not wanting chaos on Primaris marines.
That stasis crypt and medicae station have a lot of potential, I think I can make something truly horrific with those bits.
Then they’re idiots if they didn’t know the hype the game had. This is Halo Infinite all over again.
It is retarded to launch a game like this without horde mode, plain and simple. I can forgive not being allowed to maim, kill and burn in the name of the Dark Gods because that reeks of GW not wanting chaos on Primaris marines.
I actually couldn’t finish that one, I love Chaos but could not stand the Thousand Sons.
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Be patient, its a virtue.
Ive been reading a lot of mid-20th century sci fi that inspired or otherwise influenced Warhammer, its kind of a different path to tread, but Warhammer wears its inspirations
As far as strictly 40k IP books, Know No Fear is always a classic. The necron books are bangers (twice dead king, and Infinite and the Divine). I really enjoyed the new Exorcists novel, Oaths of Damnation. Ciaphas Cain is a very tongue-in-cheek anthology (thats best enjoyed in short bursts, not all at once). Id check out that one website, Humble Bundle, I got like 30 novels for like $20, I think they pair with warhammer pretty often.
As a degenerate Wordbearers enjoyer, Betrayer, the WB Omnibus, Battle for the Abyss, First Heretic, and Aurelian were my absolute go-tos, though those are mostly HH and not 40k. Argel Tal carries the Horus Heresy in terms of really bangin characters. I cant believe they havent brought him back in 40k after Erebus encourages him to take a long nap
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As I said the other day, Graham McNeill's entries are my favorites, particularly Fulgrim and Storm of Iron. I think he's good at humanizing the traitors and making the audience understand their motives, sympathetic or otherwise.
Horus is worried that the Emperor has abandoned him. Fulgrim is obsessed with perfection. Perturabo is envious and fed up with having to do the bitchwork while Dorn gets all the credit. Magnus hates that Big E and his brothers won't let him use his knowledge and talents to advance the Great Crusade.
He doesn't try to make them look justified, but he does show the series of events that caused them to break bad.
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Old 40k Imperium was Gothic Industrial. Shit was utilitarian, designed to work, designed to be mass produced, but also obviously slapdash and repurposed OLD stuff with some creepy pseudo-catholic vibes to it all. You had tactical squads wearing mixed MK4/5/6/7 armor because there was no way to mass manufacture mk7 (well, mk8 ) armor in such a way to outfit marines properly and they were doing whatever they could to throw infinity amounts of lost souls against the wall of suck to keep the (literal) demons at bay just one day longer. There were vibes of desperation, of cargo cultism, of a weird cross between religious overtones and scifi but tainted with shit like the best troop transport they have being a repurposed snowplow.
New 40k Imperium -- Primaris -- isn't Gothic Industrial. It's Tacticool Scifi. Everyone's armor looks the exact fucking same and they have ~3 variants and supposedly they can swap pieces between the three (Sergeant with a Gravis chestpiece but the rest Tacticus) but in reality that doesn't happen because the real reason is they only had to model and rig one blender file for each of the 3 variants and then it's just posing and adding optional cruft. They're not grimdark. There's no air of desperation, of repurposing shit that's as old as written language is on Earth, of really anything. Worse, we're supposed to believe that Cawl just happened to have hid an entire Imperium's worth of marines AND Mk10 armor and it didn't happen to come out until the shit was released nor did they bother to make mk10 sized for the non-Parimaris, or even give them the shiny new guns despite them being ostensibly better than the old guns -- not even as an optional upgrade, or something for HQs to use.
It's not 40k. It's something vaguely 40k-like. Temu brand imitation 40k. And that never, ever, bodes well for an IP long term.
The natural question becomes, "how could they have done it better?" Slower roll out. A series of novels where the big twist was marine power armor that won't fit marines cause it's about 10-20% too big and no one, not even the marines, knows what the fuck that's about but the AdMech showed up took it all away and are pretending they never were there and your ship's computer now swears up and down you never left drydock in the first place. Make it a mystery spanning an entire edition or two of 40k: Something weird is going on and no one's telling the Space Marines for some reason.
Strange sightings of pseudo-primaris marines in AdMech or High Lord Special Snowflake chapters like the Steel Confessors / Minotaurs or even the Death Watch and Grey Knights. Some gene-terrors keep showing up, maybe the implication something's fucked with the Primaris Geneseed -- imply or outright state that the AdMech relied on Hereteks or Xenos for help, or used some experiments Big E shut down for a damned good reason. Multiple instances of Proto-Primaris marines going batshit and needing to be put down. Tie it back to the HH with the Raven Guard and their geneseed fuckery, a book where Cawl is implied to have restarted that program or stole the information from it from Corvax without the approval or permission of Big E -- but Big E is indisposed and can't deal with him right now and besides maybe he can work with this, it sure beats the dumbasses rubbing WD40 on the keyboard cause they think the spacebar will be sad if they don't. Hell, give the Iron Hands something to do and imply Cawl was having them beta test the Primaris Geneseed in places with literal bionic killswithces installed in the marines' skulls. (Steel Confessors would probably be a better option for this but the IP rights of them are up in the air IIRC and they're Iron Hands successors anyway.)
AdMech obviously hiding something. Shit not quite working right. Space Marines slowly realizing they're about to get the Thunder Warrior treatment. Everything starting to boil over. But that would have been grimdark and can't have that in modern 40k, it scares the Alyssa Mercantes of the world away.
I would have also downplayed their size. If you want to redo the scale just redo the scale. It's not the end of the world. They should have paid to have someone do a complex blender file that had MK2-8 armor as options for each individual piece, in the new scale. That would have been far, far more useful for them long term. The worst thing is they didn't even get to do any line consolidation with the Parimaris like they no doubt wanted to do.
The Ahriman series is pretty good. Probably the only CSM stories I've read that aren't purely infighting or leaving the reader wondering how whatever particular group of morons actually ever manages to accomplish anything basic like travelling around without getting themselves killed or just lost in the process. Only issued I had with it was the harlequins and their interpretative dance nonsense. Ahirman himself and most of the other characters also manage to not just be moustache twirling villains doing bad things for the sake of doing bad things.
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but hey, at least now third parties can't sell
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Oh? Why not? I have only seen more and more "Prime Marines" bits out and about as more and more 3d printer shops turn into casting shops.
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My main issue with bricky is that his podcast gets a lot of things wrong. He always sites the wiki or says “in the book” an then heavily paraphrase it. If you’re going to reference a book, then cite the page number. Then he’s very much allowing real world politics affect his view of factions. When 40k is so disconnected from our world. His cohost DK (failed streamer who quit)I swear is either legitimately retarded or has brain damage because he can’t remember shit. We do know that he’s very gooner brained.
If you want to watch lore, go to Baldemort, lutin, and the pontius (Danny Foretuna), from the black library is also good.
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Currently playing in a Rogue Trader tabletop game and was wondering if there were any instances in the lore of any heresies that combined worshipping the chaos gods and emperor. Long story short, my rogue trader got daemoned from a mutation roll and now decides to worship both, and I was wondering if this is just some schizo shit he's come up with or has even a tiny bit of precedent anywhere.
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There’s cases of Emperor worship becoming chaos worship or Tzeentch pretending to be the Emperor (Soul Drinkers) in fact, Tzeentch goes out his way to answer prayers to the Emperor, always fucking over whoever was praying, see the Scourged chaos warband or the Crimson Slaughter.
So your guy sounds like he got Tzeentched
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He ate a warpfish and rolled a 00 so probably. He ended up with four demons offering him stuff, since he's a rogue trader, and decided to go with Chaos Undivided. Very pragmatic with his religious views so any god that gives him power or protection, he'll worship, hence not giving up Emperor worship. That and he's become racist against the Eldar even more than usual due to his hatred of pirates and a very prank-happy Harlequin.
But if it turns out he got Tzeentched, that'd make sense. He's one of them visionary, change the world types. Not happy with how the High Lords run stuff, wants to liberate some Tau owned worlds as proof of concept for his "ascended humanity" project where he thinks everyone should have daemon powers like him or at least worship all five gods like humanity was supposed to. Very hopeful, that one.
No, but... kinda? The emperor is anathema to the chaos gods and vice versa. So actually worshipping both and receiving benefits from both makes no sense.
However, a chaos god fucking around and tricking your character into believing they can do both is certainly possible and definitely some Tzeentch shit like Humble Architect mentioned, but doesn't necessarily have to be. It wouldn't be Khorne but could also be some Slaanesh or Nurgle shit depending on how things play out, and of course there's chaos demons that are... unaligned and smaller chaos entities besides the big 4(shit like Vashtorr, Belakor, etc. that could decide to fuck about and cause a mess of their own.
So yeah, most likely Tzeentch, but if the character is some self flagellating imperial cult member that could turn into some Slaanesh shit by itself, or an infection becoming a Nurgle thing too.
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He's never actually received any definitive benefit from the Emperor, really. He just thinks that's how Gellar fields work, and that the prayers of his priests on the ship do more than just heighten morale. I'm thinking the less and less the Emperor benefits him via prayer, the more and more he'll come to consider the Emperor worship a mere formality, an exaltation of humanity itself rather than the Emperor for real power until he's backslid into full on Chaos Undivided worship/usage and even more extreme xenophobia a la Black Legion.
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The Sabbath world crusade chaos forces don't actually view the emperor is a false God the view is simply another chaos God and they want the imperium of man to accept him as a chaos god and start worshiping him in that fashion.
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That sounds exactly like what my rogue trader's come to believe. Do you have a link to where/which book it talks about their view of the emperor? I'm either too blind or too retarded to find it on the wiki for the Sabbat worlds.
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Getting paid before this Christmas instead of after so shit I might pick up this...Iron Hands Praetor right? Gives me an excuse to brush up on my painting. Definitely going to make an Iron Hands army one day. Oh and I'm happy you're doing well, everyone not horrible people should be.
How in the fuck did this degenerate get popular again?