UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

[Haloperidol]

Lol, I make 250 grand + a year to help keep others safe and to provide quality healthcare. You'll eventually be in an emergency room, 400lbs + unloved, with diabetic ulcers on your legs, and nurses will laugh behind your back about your delusions of Medicare for all.

Personally, I'm happy he was charged with first degree murder. He should have been flogged when first encountered.

I understand what it’s like to be completely over people when you’ve been powdering fupas and handing out suboxone all day (which I doubt you even have to do yourself), but you could at least try to act like a human being. Especially when you’re being given such a steep salary for it. Letting yourself become bitter over patients who suck will 100% impair how you treat the ones who don’t. And talking about what a dick that doctor was when they leave the room is a common topic among hospital staff, I assure you.

 

[Corrosive]

I've been on an obsessive spiral around this guy mostly because I have a cs major background myself but from a much shittier school and a super poorfag family.
Some things that stand out to me:

The job he worked was actually really strange for a cum laude ivy league grad who submatriculated (MSE in last year of BSE degree)., doubly so because he graduated in 2020.
2021 was THE easiest time to get hired in tech this century. I bet a lot of his peers went to top tier AI research labs and yet he becomes a data engineer at a car retail startup?
It's a bit weird but ok it's a remote job paying $150k-ish a year and lets him live as a Hawaii surfer. He's from a rich family so I'm anticipating some trustfund is in play and he doesn't' care about money.

But on the other hand, I think this may have started a wedge between his parents who likely put more pressure on him to find something more prestigious. There is a quote in his yearbook where he said he was miserable when he started out at his prep school but ended up liking it in the end, so I'm kinda reading that parental pressure to be top tier was always there.
In Hawaii, he gets a debilitating back injury sometimes near the end of 2022 which puts his whole life on hold and spends a year exploring surgery and then recovering from it. During this time he wasn't in Hawaii anymore since he had his surgery on the east coast and likely recovered at his family's place.
Ends up quitting his job in 2023 (this was the year of huge layoffs in tech and truecar hasn't been doing well financially so I imagine it was a stressful time)

He then does the classic rich kid of backpacking around Asia starting in 2024.
July was the last time he speaks with his family, goes off grid during that time. His last goodreads were around psychedelics. I think this is the most critical period and I think he basically entered into some psychosis. There might be more evidence of it in his spiral notebook they found on him (there's quotes on nbc saying he got increasingly obsessed with UH and started planning out the murder in detail).

The idiot could have gotten away with it or at least he could have made the prosecution's job much harder if he dumped his stupid gun and ids in the water. I think this is another indication of his deranged mental state, I don't really believe he wanted to get caught (since he was on the run for a week). He was just overwhelmed emotionally by the murder and paranoia of being on the run.

Looks like the DA now wants to make an example of him and he's looking at life in prison with no parole. The jury thing is a big fucking cope, they have his DNA and fingerprints found matching on the scene of the crime, they have his murder weapon with prints all over it and his autistic notebook where he planned everything out. He threw his privileged life away for God knows what reason. I think he'll really live to fucking regret it and might end up killing himself eventually because I don't think his brain is ready to handle rotting until death in NY prisons.
A big fat shame to be honest, he genuinely seemed like a decent person, maybe a bit directionless and confused but that's literally every 25 year old zoomer chud these days.

In another timeline he found some anime loving japanese girlfriend in January and is living a happy life not caring about corrupt healthcare CEOs.

 

[Goonbase Alpha]

Lol, I make 250 grand + a year to help keep others safe and to provide quality healthcare. You'll eventually be in an emergency room, 400lbs + unloved, with diabetic ulcers on your legs, and nurses will laugh behind your back about your delusions of Medicare for all.

Personally, I'm happy he was charged with first degree murder. He should have been flogged when first encountered.

If this is how most healthcare providers in the US think and act, then Weegee was absolutely justified in what he did. You are a broken human being, and this is exactly why I said you seem like the kind of person who would sell crack to kids a few pages back. Give into those intrusive thoughts of yours and kill yourself already, I can already tell you won’t be missed.

EDIT: Also lmao at providing “quality” healthcare. We can all tell you aren’t providing “quality” anything, especially with that dismissive attitude. Plus, you can’t type like a lobotomized chimp in half your posts and then expect us to believe something like that, lies only work when they’re believable. Get over yourself.

 

[FieldPiece]

Another day in the South Park world

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Hello sar I am CEO of Microsoft man threatened me with stab unless you open bob and vegana

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Another day in the South Park world

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This is objective proof that our elected officials do not see us the same. I agree with her, they all deserve the rope.

 

[Unique User Name]

Lol, I make 250 grand + a year to help keep others safe and to provide quality healthcare. You'll eventually be in an emergency room, 400lbs + unloved, with diabetic ulcers on your legs, and nurses will laugh behind your back about your delusions of Medicare for all.

Personally, I'm happy he was charged with first degree murder. He should have been flogged when first encountered.

You made a really good point earlier about how hospitals aren't innocent in all of this, and that munchies and lazy tards also play a role in overall cost overrun, but then you grabbed at your wallet and chimped out at some mild trolling.

Markets don't work in health care, a hospital having more beds doesn't follow a normal demand curve, more beds (supply) increases prices for everyone receiving care even if demand stays the same.

Having an adversary to unlimited care all the fucking time for everything from chopping off your dick to "my elbow feel strange" is fine. Having that adversary be a publicly traded, for profit corporation who is leading the pack in claim denials using AI powered pajeets, and no one can do fuck all about it makes me think that maybe some of these ghouls should be afraid. Just because they are filling a horrifying niche doesn't mean that they shouldn't feel afraid about making a buck off of it the easy way by denying more claims to make number go up.

 

[Corrosive]

You made a really good point earlier about how hospitals aren't innocent in all of this, and that munchies and lazy tards also play a role in overall cost overrun, but then you grabbed at your wallet and chimped out at some mild trolling.

Markets don't work in health care, a hospital having more beds doesn't follow a normal demand curve, more beds (supply) increases prices for everyone receiving care even if demand stays the same.

Having an adversary to unlimited care all the fucking time for everything from chopping off your dick to "my elbow feel strange" is fine. Having that adversary be a publicly traded, for profit corporation who is leading the pack in claim denials using AI powered pajeets, and no one can do fuck all about it makes me think that maybe some of these ghouls should be afraid. Just because they are filling a horrifying niche doesn't mean that they shouldn't feel afraid about making a buck off of it the easy way by denying more claims to make number go up.

I live in the UK. In many ways the US healthcare system seems utterly dystopian to me. I had no clue that these denial practices are becoming commonplace. The fact that you can pay your expensive insurance every month and still have to fight for every claim, which they have a right to just delay and deny and drag you through as you're trying to get better is just demonic.
But on the other hand, universal healthcare (at least the one we have in the UK) does have its faults. For one thing, if your economy is not up to par or your demographics are bad (more old people than young people working and funding it) it inevitably becomes healthcare rationing.

I'm lucky enough to have private insurance as a job benefit where I get to skip the queue to see a specialist if needed but I know a lot of horror stories of people having to wait months to be seen or to get a scan that they need.
So I have no clue what the solution is. I mean there has to be a middle ground somewhere.

 

[JaneThough]

It’s so weird how many people suddenly become an expert in the field they’re arguing, once people start disagreeing.

 

[The Crescent King]

I won't deny part of why I am attracted to my bf is that he's strong and I know he would protect me. he's not a brutish low IQ hoodlum nor is he an insensitive thug but comes from a culture where gender separation is strong and violence toward loved ones is not only not tolerated, its met with even more violence. That isn't the only reason I am with him, its part of the whole.

Where is your bf from? Some Kiwi girlies want to find men like that but they seem to be a dying breed (at least in Western Europe anyways).

I don't know why you seem to think I'm some rabid supporter of him. A politician is at best a tool to get what you want and discarded after they are no longer useful, and at worst an obstacle to to be moved under, over, around, or through. I'm sure there are some on this site that see him as some savior figure, but I see him as nothing more than a brick through the window of the establishment, a spanner in the works. Political loyalties are stupid.

Nigger, Trump is a billionaire with a cabinet filled to the brim with neocons, Zionists and career politicians. He IS the elite. Nobody becomes a billionaire in America by being anti-establishment. What anti-establishment actions do you expect Trump to do exactly? You'll still have your tax money used to pay for endless wars, Jewish settlements in Gaza and his golf trips without fixing the issues Luigi's killing of Brian Thompson was trying to highlight.

There are some anti-establishment figures in America, like Norman Finkelstein. For not sucking Zio-cock he was harassed mercilessly by Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer Alan Dershowitz and was blacklisted from every job in academia. Randy Weaver and Uncle Ted were also anti-establishment; what happened to them?

 

[Moon Cricket]

Hopefully some sympathetic New Yorkers are practicing acting unbiased, scrubbing any mention of Luigi from their socials and putting themselves forward for jury duty.

It sounds like it might be the only real chance he has.

If he is acquitted, the Healthcare CEO’s might collectively shit their pants that they can be shot in the street and a layperson wouldn’t consider their killer actualy guilty of a crime.

The outcome of this trial may have the potential to reform the healthcare industry.

 

[Accidental Racism]

Nigger, Trump is a billionaire with a cabinet filled to the brim with neocons, Zionists and career politicians. He IS the elite. Nobody becomes a billionaire in America by being anti-establishment. What anti-establishment actions do you expect Trump to do exactly? You'll still have your tax money used to pay for endless wars, Jewish settlements in Gaza and his golf trips without fixing the issues Luigi's killing of Brian Thompson was trying to highlight.

There are some anti-establishment figures in America, like Norman Finkelstein. For not sucking Zio-cock he was harassed mercilessly by Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer Alan Dershowitz and was blacklisted from every job in academia. Randy Weaver and Uncle Ted were also anti-establishment; what happened to them?

As I've mentioned earlier, someone doesn't have to BELIEVE in a cause to further it, especially accidentally. He doesn't need to hate the machine or want to destroy it to cause lasting damage. If he thinks he's fixing it and ends up wrecking it (or weakening it severely enough that someone more competent can come along and finish the job), that's still a desirable outcome. If the machine wrecks itself trying to get at him because it has whipped itself into a frenzy and believe he will harm it, that's still a desirable outcome. If he crashes this whole thing with no survivors, that's still preferable to its current trajectory.

And to get back on topic,

If he is acquitted, the Healthcare CEO’s might collectively shit their pants that they can be shot in the street and a layperson wouldn’t consider their killer actualy guilty of a crime.

They're already shitting their pants, you should see the post earlier in this thread (?) where a governor basically posts paranoid shit on twitter thinking there are drones above his house. They were stars.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Where is your bf from? Some Kiwi girlies want to find men like that but they seem to be a dying breed (at least in Western Europe anyways).

Not Western Europe. Go Eastern Europe, or Balkans. Avoid Albania and Kosovo, Russia is closed due to sanctions.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I find it hypocritical that people defend Luigi yet refuse to do the same for Penny

This 100%.

I'm not shedding a tear for the CEO who's crowning achievement was getting an AI to deny more claims, and I 100% understand why people are rooting for the killer here (and it really shows how the US healthcare/insurance system needs to change) - but I'm gonna call bullshit on any "class consciousness" faggotry because the same people cheering for a premeditated shot-in-the-back killing are the same people wanting Rittenhouse raped and Penny hung for acting in blatant self-defense.
Like I might be sympathetic, but I'm not gonna endorse your desire to shoot people in the back of the head until you endorse my right to fend off someone charging right at me.

Something something no bad tactics only bad targets or w/e

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I will say at first those terrorist charges might be overblown, but Luigi did commit terrorism in the literal definition since he did have a political motivation and it did strike terror into the hearts of CEOs.

But fuck these people, they deserve to be terrorized. Maybe if they treated poor people better, they wouldn't need to cry to Kathy Hochul about how its unfair that people hate them.

 

[roflcorn69420]

Been doing some research trying to find cases similar this one, and I think legally this has some parallels to the Scott Roeder case.

Scott was an anti abortion activist who shot & killed George Tiller, who was an abortion doctor.

The defense tried to argue for a voluntary manslaughter conviction, which is defined (in Kansas) as killing with "an unreasonable but honest belief that circumstances existed that justified deadly force”, which would have carried a sentence of 5 years

It was ultimately unsuccessful, but then again the perpetrator was a strange old divorced father rather than a dashing young idealist with popular opinion on his side

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_George_Tiller

 

[celona]

This 100%.

I'm not shedding a tear for the CEO who's crowning achievement was getting an AI to deny more claims, and I 100% understand why people are rooting for the killer here (and it really shows how the US healthcare/insurance system needs to change) - but I'm gonna call bullshit on any "class consciousness" faggotry because the same people cheering for a premeditated shot-in-the-back killing are the same people wanting Rittenhouse raped and Penny hung for acting in blatant self-defense.
Like I might be sympathetic, but I'm not gonna endorse your desire to shoot people in the back of the head until you endorse my right to fend off someone charging right at me.

Something something no bad tactics only bad targets or w/e

Some of us know they’re both right

 

[beautiful person]

I don't want to fuck hold Luigi's hand because he is hot, I want to fuck him hold his hand because he killed a soulless demon of a CEO. Please understand.

His good looks are just a bonus, if we're being real. Plenty of vapid pretty boys out there that Idgaf about.

Lol, I make 250 grand + a year

It's amazing how soulless vampires immediately reveal themselves by stating, first and foremost, their high salaries, as if normal human beings give a fuck.

the same people wanting Rittenhouse raped and Penny hung for acting in blatant self-defense.

What about (wuttaboutism, lmao) the people who appreciate what Mangione did, but also recognize that Rittenhouse and Penny blatantly acted in self-defense? Like, are you talking about other users on this site, or retard communists on bootleg Xitter Bluesky?

I will say at first those terrorist charges might be overblown, but Luigi did commit terrorism in the literal definition since he did have a political motivation and it did strike terror into the hearts of CEOs.

But fuck these people, they deserve to be terrorized. Maybe if they treated poor people better, they wouldn't need to cry to Kathy Hochul about how its unfair that people hate them.

The definitions of terrorism in New York state that I've seen are that it needs to be a civilian population or government entity that is intimidated or coerced through violence, and tbh, I don't consider these "people" to be civilians. That's just me being an ideolog, though.

 

[roflcorn69420]

Been doing some research trying to find cases similar this one, and I think legally this has some parallels to the Scott Roeder case.

Scott was an anti abortion activist who shot & killed George Tiller, who was an abortion doctor.

The defense tried to argue for a voluntary manslaughter conviction, which is defined (in Kansas) as killing with "an unreasonable but honest belief that circumstances existed that justified deadly force”, which would have carried a sentence of 5 years

It was ultimately unsuccessful, but then again the perpetrator was a strange old divorced father rather than a dashing young idealist with popular opinion on his side

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_George_Tiller

The true Gigachad legal defense would be to compare the case to that of Gary Plauche/Jeffrey Doucet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauché

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Oh, the establishment is absolutely shitting their pants at the apparent public opinion. When the prosecutor, the legal arm of the state government, states that this trial is to show what "cannot and will not be tolerated", it carries a tacit admission that the public could and would tolerate what the shooter did.

To be completely fair, what happened on December 4th is first degree murder. There was no self-defense component to legally justify the killing, so if Luigi is found to be the shooter, he is guilty of first degree murder. Those of us that like him just agree that he did the world a service and probably should be acquitted on that basis alone.

I don't really understand the "two counts of second degree murder" though. If I'm not mistaken, second degree murder is intentional killing caused by a sudden lapse in judgment, like murdering a man you found in bed with your wife. If he had a spiral notebook with details of premeditating the assassination and a written confession/"manifesto" as the authorities claim, then second degree murder shouldn't apply at all.

Second degree murder in NY is, among other things, as simple as causing the death of someone while having intent to kill someone (not necessarily the same person, n.b.). First degree has some very specific requirements, as someone mentioned.

2nd degree here is a lesser included crime to first degree and standard to charge, bc otherwise there is no room to negotiate and nowhere for a jury to go if they don't want to do 1st degree.

If what you did appears to fit multiple statutes, you can be charged with commission of any or all of them.

Perfectly plausible that, through a trial, a jury decide that his actions either did not meet or do not warrant a 1st degree conviction. And a prosecutor will rarely want to take that risk.

NY homicide laws.

He's been indicted for

• first-degree murder in furtherance of terrorism
• two counts of second-degree murder, one of which is charged as a killing in the act of terrorism;
• two counts of second-degree criminal possession of a weapon;
• four counts of third-degree criminal possession of a weapon;
• one count of fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon; and
• one count of second-degree criminal possession of a forged instrument,

My legal basis is from another state, that's why I was confused. I did not realize New York state utilized their murder degrees to make police officers an even-more protected class. I assumed the rest of the US also went by the scale of "1st degree = intentional and premeditated, 2nd degree = intentional and a crime of passion, 3rd degree (manslaughter) = unintentional negligence" as is the approximate case for my state.

Yeah, that's not the scheme in NY at all. And there's generally (in most if not all states) a distinction btw murder charges and manslaughter charges - meaning manslaughter isn't "3rd degree"; it's its own type of charge, and there are often multiple degrees of it (1st degree manslaughter, 2nd, etc.). Vehicular homicide is typically its own category as well.

My state somewhat follows your understanding of 1st and 2nd degree murder, but there are more than 2 degrees, and, as mentioned above, those are different than manslaughter charges.