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[Sinner's Sandwich]

The only aliens I fear are the Vogons with their Vogon constructor fleet and their awful poetry.

 

[fukefacedog]

I've had enough of this for now.

I'm going up North into the vast forests of Canada.

Have a great Christmas everyone.

 

[Mystery Spy]

My take is that they are either American or NHI. After hearing whistleblower testimony it's not impossible or a nut idea anymore. The government has outright admitted UAPs, and NHI ( via whistleblowers), are a real thing.

I only buy it being foreign if they were cooperating with the government for some reason. Otherwise, politically makes no sense to spend billions just to mildly inconvenience random citizens.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

Was there anything especially significant in the past few Biden videos posted? I watched a couple minutes and it seemed par for the course for Biden the past 5 years.
Not sure what the crowd was chanting at him though, it sounded like "Angry Joe" lol

I've had enough of this for now.

I'm going up North into the vast forests of Canada.

Have a great Christmas everyone.

Aww, man. Have a merry Christmas and get some rest. Thanks for all your hard work, really.
This thread is gonna be lonely without you, tbh.

I do hope if anything Happens, it waits until the new year. I just want a cozy Christmas after this fuckup of a year, man...

 

[Expenses2999]

Was there anything especially significant in the past few Biden videos posted?

I think part of them being posted was an off-topic comment on Biden's mental decline. I didn't glean anything special from the bits I listened to, as painful as it was.

 

[Narcotics]

It's a nothing burger, most of those are planes or hobbyist/commercial/police/military drones. Although there is a definite psyop online to blow it out of proportions with fake videos and fake reports and the whole lost nukes story. The feds love stories like that because it distracts from their many other failures, so they're probably helping to propagate the psyop. In short, this shit is fake and gay.

I'll say it again, most people on the ground are just seeing ordinary shit like planes/helicopters/actual walmart-bought drones/planets/stars/constellations/satellite flares and are too stubborn or embarrased to admit they're wrong, if they go out mentalized on wanting to see UFOS, they'll see UFOS in every star and planet in the sky, this gets specially worse when you get thousands of people that don't pay attention to the night sky to suddenly look up, and tell them that every light in the sky are actually drones, and they believe it because what else could they be?.

People shit on Mick West but i agree with him in one point, 90% of all videos and photos that have come out so far of these mystery drones are everything i've said above, the rest are just contextless blobs of light taken from a nokia. If the photo quality is good enough, you'll see the shape of what's clearly a plane, or a helicopter, or you'll see the the red, white and green lights that all aircraft are supposed to have to operate, how kind of the chinese CIA aliens to turn on their lights at night so planes don't crash into them.

Americans forget that they live under one of the busiest airspaces on this planet, Sites like Flightradar and ADS-B Exchange don't show every single aircraft and drone out there, if all of these are just the registered and publicly trackable ones, imagine how many are out there flying that don't show up.

"But what about the ones flying over millitary bases?"
Those can very well be real, it's no secret that this actually happens sometimes, and has been happening for years. 2 things can be true at the same time:
1. There are mystery drones flying over US millitary bases.
2. There's lots of people missidentifying normal shit in the sky for drones.
The first point is true, and a legit security concern, but it gets watered down and outshined by the second point. And because of it, you get retards shinning lasers at planes and helicopters, and politicians calling for aircraft to be shot down.

What i think happened was this: First, reports of unidentified drones over US bases come out, word spreads, and now everyone sees drones in every light in the sky.

Don't forget something similar to this happened in 2022, this is not new at all.

95% of this event are people looking at normal things under the lenses of senseless hysteria, the remaining 5% are the true unknown drones flying over US bases.

 

[FatalTater]

Whatever happens in the near future, remember that scared people are easier to control, and all the world governments know this.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Assuming this has some shred of “truth” and isn’t a wholesale dementia hallucination, what the fuck did he mean by this?

Just what "novel phenomenon" could they be talking about?

i'm going to throw my guess into the ring to see how far off it is before it turns out it is aliens and emperor cheeto becomes the disclosure president. and i'm going to be focusing on these ideas of a novel phenomenon where everyone wants to get in on the deal. what's happening is mass testing of a novel energy technology for use in military drones. i think this idea answers the biggest questions i have about the UAP situation

what are these drones even doing?
running down the batteries. hovering, speeding around, flashing lights, powering up sensors. the real test is seeing what the runtime and compatibility is using this new technology, so it actually doesn't matter that much what the drones are doing on the operator's end. as mentioned below, part of these tests could also be seeing how this technology interferes with contemporary technology

why isn't the government putting a stop to it?
because they're the ones that authorized it in the first place. this is why the drones aren't being shot down and have FAA approved lighting

why aren't the drone operators doing a better job to hide their drones?
not only do they have authorization, part of their tests are seeing how the drones perform in an urban environment with electronic and radio interference (both receiving and giving)

why are the number of drones increasing?
now that people are looking in the sky, most of these drone sightings are misidentifications. also, you're going to have tons of people launching their own drones to try and catch the novel drones, further increasing confusion. for the small amount of real sightings: as more companies figure out how to integrate this novel technology into their drone systems, more and more of them are creating new drones using this technology. it's likely NJ is just where one of the first companies to figure this out is based

why hasn't anyone gotten close enough to get good pictures of the drones?
most people are going to own consumer/commercial drones that would easily get locked out of the area by the FAA. anyone who could manufacture a drone that could bypass this is either too busy trying to make their own drone using this new technology or smart enough to know they shouldn't be flying close to top secret drones. even if someone could take a perfect photograph of a drone, it would probably just look like a normal drone on the outside

why is the government claiming the drones aren't US drones?
because even if it's military contracts that these drones are being built for, these are private companies that are vying for contract work and not officially the US government (aka they're lying)

why are the drones causing interference with batteries, radios, and clocks?
most of these are going to be hoaxes, but any real evidence of this happening is from the interference that this novel energy technology causes to electronic devices. this is also why the focus is on drones: this novel technology would cause too much interference if you stuck it in a car or boat or something wearable, but it's perfect for mobile platforms that zoom around on their own

why isn't the government telling people about it?
because fuck you, you little dumb peon. keep consooming media and drugs and stop asking questions

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

why isn't the government putting a stop to it?
because they're the ones that authorized it in the first place. this is why the drones aren't being shot down and have FAA approved lighting

why aren't the drone operators doing a better job to hide their drones?
not only do they have authorization

I don't buy it. There wouldn't be the consternation seen in government and confirmation of many "drones" above military bases if this was authorized. The rumors would be wrapped up in a day. Though we have seen higher-profile people making the same mistakes as the peons (e.g. former Governor Larry Hogan).

FAA approved lighting? Natural consequence of retards flooding social media with videos of planes. The real craft are going to be harder to spot, and could be further away from residential areas. I have zero desire to click on any of the sighting videos on r/UFOs, because I already know most of them are going to be prosaic or potato quality. And that was before the post rate skyrocketed. No psyop needed, just a little hysteria as people point their physically incapable smartphones at tiny lights. If there are fuzzy videos of alien craft, they are going to be buried in a pile of shit.

Which brings us back to this:

And now, for something completely different: The Joint Chiefs of Staff contradict the White House and say that, no, these are actually happening, have been happening for some time, but they can't figure out their origin point, believe they don't have malicious intent (but don't know), and are frustrated by the fact they can't stop it.,

https://archive.ph/LFusm

It's not a big deal, not a foreign adversary, but training ranges have been affected and "drones" have swarmed bases over the past couple of years, before the hype. If you remove the hobbyist/prankster, the lone Chinaman, and the Russian/Chinese submarine launcher, pretty soon you're going to be left with ALIENS.

Public (Michael Shellenberger): US Government Disinformation On Drones Accompanies Growing Failure To Control Airspace (archive) (ghost) (Reddit)

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DefenseScoop: Early federal assessments suggest unexplained New Jersey drones aren’t UAP or US military assets (archive) (Reddit)

https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/1869461513666252945 (archive) (Reddit)

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[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

they seemed to have changed their minds, again

Intelligence officials reveal source of mysterious drone invasion in three-hour classified briefing with lawmakers

https://archive.md/kBEns

interesting parts below


but its this part that stuck out to me, first 2 lines especially


the truth matters little right now, too much hype after the gov fumbled the ball
they made too many definitive statements and then walked them back, how many times?

https://archive.md/kBEns

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

they seemed to have changed their minds, again

Intelligence officials reveal source of mysterious drone invasion in three-hour classified briefing with lawmakers
https://archive.md/kBEns

We've got an old contract and an FAA notice dated the day after The War Zone published this article about a spokesman for Picatinny Arsenal talking about drone activity and denying involvement. Could the FAA notice be in reaction to the sightings, telling people to GTFO?

Daily Fail:

He noted that the Federal Aviation Administration issued an air restriction alert on November 21 prohibiting flights over the Picatinny base for 'special security reasons' through December 26.

The War Zone:

“We received reports of what were believed to be drones flying over Picatinny Arsenal, in addition to other locations in Morris County…on the evening of November 18, 2024,” facility spokesman Timothy Rider told us in an email Tuesday afternoon. “Picatinny Arsenal organizations were not involved in UAV flight operations on that date. We are working with several of our local, state, and federal partner organizations to obtain more information on the reported activity.”

Sorry, nice try. Also, they misspelled Jim Himes as Hines.

 

[The Gene Genie]

It's not a big deal, not a foreign adversary, but training ranges have been affected and "drones" have swarmed bases over the past couple of years, before the hype. If you remove the hobbyist/prankster, the lone Chinaman, and the Russian/Chinese submarine launcher, pretty soon you're going to be left with ALIENS.

I hate to pull the card, and I've been (relatively) non-alarmist on all this throughout this thread, but at the end of the day we've circled over and back across like ten different theories (put out by actual Government officials, not schizos on the internet) which have been walked forward, back, and sideways then dropped within two days when another pet theory of a Congressman makes its rounds. It's like we're systematically going down the list until the only thing left is Aliens. I realize that a lot of the sightings are just aircraft or hobbyist drones, but there IS a core phenomena here. And what of those orbs? We can see actual videos and reports of those here, and yet that's the one element of this whole "flap" that the media and the officials have been awfully quiet on - but they don't hesitate to hold their tongues to speculate on Iranian motherships off the Long Island Sound.

We've got an old contract and an FAA notice dated the day after The War Zone published this article about a spokesman for Picatinny Arsenal talking about drone activity and denying involvement. Could the FAA notice be in reaction to the sightings, telling people to GTFO?

That's the weird part. People have posted that FAA notice as a "look! it's just the government!" but the sightings started well before that.

 

[Expenses2999]

Another day, another news story. Another day, no new information. Another day, another page in this thread. Another day, no answers.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

@The Gene Genie
"orbs" are Backscatter.

Sightings of "UFOs" started long after the American government turned to shit. This is an obvious Psyop by the government.

 

[Karognis]

Hey Fukefacedog, firstly I love this thread, it's the best thing I've seen for years online, it's my favourite part of the Farms.

Secondly, I agree they're here too. The "tictac" is for planes to see. Their thing interested in our daily lives, looks like the cat or our house plant.

They came all this way and I agree, they could do just about anything. They must be at least mildly interested and not immediately hostile. Otherwise we'd all be dead.

 

[The Gene Genie]

@The Gene Genie
"orbs" are Backscatter.

Sightings of "UFOs" started long after the American government turned to shit. This is an obvious Psyop by the government.

Not all of them. There's that video the guy took out of the plane, and it's pretty obviously not backscatter.

What's the psyop here? What's the angle? You people have been saying this shit for pages. "UFOs" and information relating to the whole phenomena going back to the earliest point has been suppressed and misdirected by the Government themselves. If anything the psyop is thinking this is a psyop.

 

[Omori Boy]

2. There's lots of people missidentifying normal shit in the sky for drones.

I swear I have not seen a single video of a drone. Every single video or picture I've seen has been something else, 90% of the time it's a commercial jet. The biggest problem I've seen is people not understanding the size and distances of objects, people mistaking a plane flying towards or away as hovering, and mistaking multiple planes as one flying around. As you mentioned, I think the BIGGEST problem is people wanting to look for UFO's/drones and finding them in those commercial jets or stars/planets.

Not all of them. There's that video the guy took out of the plane, and it's pretty obviously not backscatter

Which one?

 

[The Gene Genie]

Which one?

It was a post on Reddit. I'm fairly certain dog posted it here, but I'd have to look.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

Not all of them. There's that video the guy took out of the plane, and it's pretty obviously not backscatter.

What's the psyop here? What's the angle? You people have been saying this shit for pages. "UFOs" and information relating to the whole phenomena going back to the earliest point has been suppressed and misdirected by the Government themselves. If anything the psyop is thinking this is a psyop.

Show me a picture of a real "orb".
The angle is to spook the population.
Name me 1 country that makes talking about UFO shit illegal.
The Orthodox church is illegal in Ukraine.
Holocaust denial is illegal in 19 countries around the world. Hate speech is similarly illegal.
The US works for countering antisemitism.
Yet they allow people talking about UFOs on TV?

 

[The Gene Genie]

Show me a picture of a real "orb".

I'll look for the video in this thread, but a clear example (if not related to the current thing) is the ones in the OP.

The angle is to spook the population.

To what end?

Name me 1 country that makes talking about UFO shit illegal.
The Orthodox church is illegal in Ukraine.
Holocaust denial is illegal in 19 countries around the world. Hate speech is similarly illegal.
The US works for countering antisemitism.
Yet they allow people talking about UFOs on TV?

What does this even mean? There was and is an undeniable campaign to contain and suppress information related to sightings of the UFO phenomena. The Roosevelt sighting, which spawned this very thread, took nearly 20 years to leak out of the Government. Just because it isn't illegal to talk about doesn't mean it isn't suppressed. It's treated like a joke and dismissed, and people like you are more than eager to carry water on that.