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So it follows the law and sets reasonable boundaries. What’s the fucking problem?

Sorry to be a tourist but I hate the vultures who take things like this as an excuse to clutch their pearls and fearmonger over anything distasteful or insensitive. Just sick to death of weak people trying to change the world to suit their delicate sensibilities.
 
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So it follows the law and sets reasonable boundaries. What’s the fucking problem?

I know I’m not breaking new ground here but I hate the vultures who take things like this as an excuse to clutch their pearls and fearmonger over anything distasteful or insensitive. Just sick to death of weak people trying to change the world to suit their delicate sensibilities.

It really pisses me off (🎩) that this creature is smearing WPD about this too. Yeah, I hate the content there, but I do announcements for and offer advice to Aevann about it because he's my friend and the place goes as hard as it possibly can to be absolutely as safe possible in a way literally nowhere else that I'm aware of on the internet is. Age check greets you, there's a honeypot in the profile settings ("Age (shown only to you)" where if you put that you're less than 18 it permanently locks you out of even viewing the site, jannies have custom alerts set up for red flag phrases like "my school" and "my teacher" and lockout ban on sight people who use them unless it's an outlier, the list of high priority red flag sextortion group terms was expanded again just this morning (this notifies all jannies and the account is then meaningfully looked into),

I literally don't know what else they could possibly want WPD to do. Shut down I guess? Which would be to the good in a vacuum, but the myriad other gore sites are infinitely less scrupulous about who gets on and what can be posted there. To the very best of my reckoning, WPD is the least possible lesser of 9324932 evils. I don't even know what the point of typing this out is. Am I overlooking anything? Can WPD be doing anything better? Aevann is endlessly receptive to advice on improving the safety of the site.
 
can you screenshot it? I don't want to see gore
I’ll just make a new post since my edit seems to have been missed. That page is safe. They’re not into exposing people to their content casually, which is exactly the point.

If you're here from the New York Post article

https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-ne...wing-beheadings-burnings-and-gruesome-deaths/

Hello. Welcome to this disgusting shithole of a website. Be careful not to click anything besides this thread because it's mostly, well, videos of terrible things happening to people.
We'd like to preface this by pointing out that the author of this article, Dana Kennedy, did not reach out to WPD in any way before publishing. This is despite there being a very large "CONTACT" button at the top of every page. And this sucks, because it could have prevented some bizarre statements in her article like:
The site lists "do not post anything illegal under US law" and, perhaps surprisingly, "do not post animal cruelty/abuse," among its rules.
...which isn't remotely surprising, because animal cruelty videos are also illegal under US law. Aside from that, the site name is pretty clearly "watch people die" but that's maybe a bit facetious of an observation. Beyond that, zoosadism is a far cry from the disappointingly common (but still oft-misguided) morbid interest people have in their own mortality. WPD hosts legal videos of people dying—whether that's from disasters, active conflicts, industrial accidents, whatever—and that's the extent of it. This is far from the only site of this nature (at odds with the "sick website" headline Ms. Kennedy chose), places like TheYNC and DocumentingReality have been going for decades. WPD is notable only in that it does not serve ads, does not also host pornography, and goes above and beyond trying to keep children and bad actors off of the platform to the best of our ability. WPD is not, however, a substitute for parental involvement in the lives of their children and we cannot catch every minor attempting to access the site.

Touching back on the headline:
School shooter Natalie 'Samantha' Rupnow linked to sick website showing beheadings, burnings and gruesome deaths
Rupnow was not "linked" to this site. She went through more steps claiming to be of-age than pornography websites have (we are not required to do this, we do this because it is right, and a single slipup will have the user locked out of the site permanently, unable to even view anything), she had an account that posted nothing remarkable (12 comments in over a year, none of which got any engagement), she did not participate in the chatrooms, she did not send direct messages to anyone. As Ms. Kennedy herself pointed out, WPD has over 3,000,000 registered users. One of them barely existing and barely using the platform does not make "linked to" WPD.
Furthermore, WPD proactively contacts law enforcement whenever anything seeming to warrant this presents itself. It does not simply ban users and wash its hands of it. It is, again, a very proactive thing. WPD also cooperates fully and enthusiastically with any and all law enforcement requests when anything on the platform gets their attention.

There really isn't much to say in response to this travesty masquerading as journalism. Rupnow also had a TikTok account. She had a YouTube account. I assume she had an Instagram account. According to less shameful reporting, she was much more active on these platforms than here (again, she averaged 0.6 comments per month, for a total of 12 comments in all).

In closing: WPD hosts nothing but legal content, WPD goes above and beyond to do what it can to protect children whose parents don't pay enough attention to their online activities by trying to locate and lock them out of the site, WPD admires, respects and works with law enforcement whenever possible. I generally like the New York Post, but the standards for reporting appear to be virtually nonexistent, at least in Ms. Kennedy's case.

Go sensationalize somewhere else.
Parents, check your kids' history. Regularly. Constantly. Contact your ISP, they can tell you exactly where they've been, when and how long, even if the kid deletes it from their device locally.

cc: [@ some user]: the rectangle you used to obscure the username in the screenshot didn't account for the avatar, or hat on the avatar. I've applied an Underage ban to your account so you can see exactly how thorough our attempts at mitigation are.

edit: I'd like to respond to this comment on the article in particular -
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Yeah man WPD brings in millions a year hosting this garbage and doesn't struggle to keep the lights on every month while constantly trying to optimize the site in ways to make it run better without paying for more expensive server upgrades. Definitely.

Also, the person commenting as WatchPeopleDie on the article is not affiliated with WPD.
You wouldn't have this issue if you didn't have a website that's only of interest to degenerates and sadists, so shutting it down is the only right thing to do
Not only is this just wrong, it’s exactly what people say about KF you dumb nigger. Wait til you discover we have our own people dying thread!
 
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I literally don't know what else they could possibly want WPD to do. Shut down I guess? Which would be to the good in a vacuum, but the myriad other gore sites are infinitely less scrupulous about who gets on and what can be posted there. To the very best of my reckoning, WPD is the least possible lesser of 9324932 evils. I don't even know what the point of typing this out is.
Yes, shut it down! You're doing what the human traffickers in charge of Pornhub do by saying "We're heckin' wholesome chunguses, and you'll just cause more harm if you delete our filth because you can totally trust us to do the right thing! After all, only the most morally upstanding people would ever want to run a porn/gore site!" By providing a site out in the open that has gore (and is directly tied to a mainstream site, rDrama), you are helping more kids get desensitized to gore and are providing a public, relatively open place for internet extortion groups like 764 to congregate. Arguably, you're helping groom kids into this by having your gore site be like "Haha we're run by the same people that run the funny Reddit drama site! We even have the funny cutesy rDrama cartoon cat, but he's dead! Hohohoho how scary! And if you're underage we'll blare a funni little AI song you definitely wouldn't want your parents hearing; that would be very embarrassing, you'd definitely want to take extra caution to hide your online activities from your parents now, next time you log onto our site after resetting your IP". These internet extortion groups are always coming up with new symbols and identifiers, so your wordfilters are probably already outdated. On top of that, it's easy to circumvent wordfilters, and any kid who would use a gore site knows to always lie about their age. On top of that, all it takes is a DM to an offsite link -- some unlisted Youtube video, a STEAM group, a Discord server, a Twitter account, a Deviantart page, whatever -- to get kids into these extortion groups. You wouldn't have this issue if you didn't have a website that's only of interest to degenerates and sadists, so shutting it down is the only right thing to do.
 
Gore sites always get the shaft in the eyes of the MSM because it's an easy issue to moralize about and lazily farm engagement. Plus interest in graphic human morality is an inelastic market, so there is always some place where "journalists" can stare and cry while banking quick bucks and viewership. The last 100 years is unprecedented territory for humanity, as more people live insulated away from Death's harsh realities than ever before, while being exposed to infinite gradations of Death from the comfort of the screen. That is to say, the authors of the New York Post could never approach public executions, lynchings, body exhumations, and public autopsies as entertainment like a majority of humanity did historically.
 

I disagree on some smaller points, but in general I do agree. I think what it comes down to is that the logic used to justify its existence (“WPD provides the same content people have always gotten elsewhere but without pornography, the risk of malware, and better safety features, and all this stuff does exist elsewhere, so why not make a superior, less-harmful version?”) mostly falls flat when parallels are drawn. “Pornography will always be available elsewhere, therefore hosting some sort of less-unethical porn site is justified” is all sorts of retarded.

There are definitely some arguments in favor of it. Where would the line be drawn? Would the JFK assassination be problematic? Police shootings? Combat footage? Should the atrocities of ISIS and cartels be hidden away to avoid potential harm inherent in hosting their content? I don’t think so, and I’m not a fan of censorship, but I do see little to no value in this sort of all-encompassing repository. It could also be argued that since WPD is now larger than every other gore site with their porn and lax moderation and predatory ads that the porn site equivalence drawn above no longer applies, because it’s meaningfully diminishing the reach of more dangerous spaces.

But in the end it’s not my call to make and I have no interest in considering the merits of these arguments. I have zero control over the existence of WPD. I opposed its creation and only started helping in my limited capacity because it wasn’t going anywhere so why not offer my input and assistance when possible. So while pulling the plug isn’t my decision, I can at the very least stop endorsing it insofar as offering UX suggestions, running communications and the like is an endorsement. This doesn’t pay me anything, I don’t enjoy it, concerns that the site will lead to tangible, real world damage stress me out regularly.

Mostly a stream of consciousness above leading to the decision. Thanks for the perspective, even if I think some of it isn’t great. I think I’m out, will sleep on it.
 
“Pornography will always be available elsewhere, therefore hosting some sort of less-unethical porn site is justified” is all sorts of retarded.
If she had an unhealthy vestment in it, then it became a vice to her. Same with porn, same with exercise, drugs, gambling, playing games, spree shopping, or anything else. Anything can become addictive, any thing can rot your mind. I'm not saying this site is responsible or that it influenced her decision to become a shooter, it's just one of those human confluences you can't do anything about. It just happened, and you can't ban people from doing anything all the time because they might lose their minds.
 
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I think what it comes down to is that the logic used to justify its existence (“WPD provides the same content people have always gotten elsewhere but without pornography, the risk of malware, and better safety features, and all this stuff does exist elsewhere, so why not make a superior, less-harmful version?”) mostly falls flat when parallels are drawn.
It's not "parallels being drawn"; it's the same thing. Both are content based around deriving pleasure from suffering; one is about sex while the other is about life and death.
Would the JFK assassination be problematic? Police shootings? Combat footage?
Historical events and government media that is shared with the people to be accountable are not the same as sadistic torture footage.
Should the atrocities of ISIS and cartels be hidden away to avoid potential harm inherent in hosting their content?
Yes, ISIS and cartels are sadists, so they should not have their acts publicized on sites that attract sociopaths and sadists and other crime/terrorism groups.
It could also be argued that since WPD is now larger than every other gore site with their porn and lax moderation and predatory ads that the porn site equivalence drawn above no longer applies, because it’s meaningfully diminishing the reach of more dangerous spaces.
But WPD is still dangerous. The porn site equivalence does apply because there are plenty of porn sites that try to have a "cleaner" image and tighter moderation (just like WPD is), but those sites are still harmful.
So while pulling the plug isn’t my decision, I can at the very least stop endorsing it insofar as offering UX suggestions, running communications and the like is an endorsement. This doesn’t pay me anything, I don’t enjoy it, concerns that the site will lead to tangible, real world damage stress me out regularly.
Do this. And who decides whether or not WPD stays up? Cut ties with them for being degenerate sadists running a site with real-world harm, sort of like how Doll broke up with Kuz for being a CP spammer.
 
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