US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[whoishomermynameis]

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[GunCar Gary]

Right, but there would still be a finite number of doctors, and we'd still be mortal, thus there would still be a political demand for there to somehow be infinite doctors. Since the government can't summon infinite doctors out of the ether, it will do the next best thing, summon infinite bureaucrats.

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hey, i've seen this one before

 

[The Ugly One]

There would be more doctors without the healthcare cartels and government artificially suppressing the number of doctors to protect their line going up.

There just aren't enough smart, hard-working people in society for every person to have their own concierge doctor they run to every time they have a sniffle. Since there aren't, you'll get the next best thing, a bureaucrat to put you on a waiting list.

Tax cuts become 10x harder to pass with a debt ceiling then without. If Kamala won this would be extended until 2028 at a minimum.

We're running out of taxes to cut. Why not just get rid of taxes completely and fund the government with inflation alone? Seems to be what everyone wants.

I'm not sure I buy that "tax cuts are spending ackshually" thing, unless it's codified in law somewhere that seems like the sort of thing Trump will just laugh at and ignore and dare a court to stop him.

If you're not going to fund the government with taxes, then your only other option is debt.

 

[BlackDragoons]

Didn’t the government shut down for six months at one point and nobody noticed or cared and they eventually fixed it because they were getting scared that people would notice that nothing fucking changed with the government shut down?

The longest shutdown the US had was 33 days.

And it was during Trumps Reign.

 

[George Lucas]

That's one reason why I'm confused here. We have the FC opposing the cut down CR, and I thought they were populist and thus a de-porked version would be good? We have the Uniparty trying to get an Omnibus-in-all-but-name and having a fucking conniption fit through their RINO mouthpieces the next day about the cut down CR being a crime against budgets. And now apparently if they do nothing at all instead of it being a shutdown instead all that will happen is Trump will get everything he wants day 1 instead, which is why they really really want to get a CR passed before he gets in to screw him? Except they joined the FC in voting down the de-porked CR... Because they want the pork?

I'm confused.

It's like the Stonetoss tug of war comic, with the FC and Uniparty on one side and Trump and the GOPe on the other.

I don’t know who’s Jewing who anymore.

I think we need to trust Trump on this one boys. Let’s see what he thinks about Johnson in the upcoming days.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Right, but there would still be a finite number of doctors, and we'd still be mortal, thus there would still be a political demand for there to somehow be infinite doctors. Since the government can't summon infinite doctors out of the ether, it will do the next best thing, summon infinite bureaucrats.

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Not that the US healthcare/health insurance system doesn't need reform, it clearly does.

But socialized medicine would just turn all these administrators from private middle-managers into DMV tier government employees.

 

[George Lucas]

We're running out of taxes to cut. Why not just get rid of taxes completely and fund the government with inflation alone? Seems to be what everyone wants.



If you're not going to fund the government with taxes, then your only other option is debt.

Tariffs are an option and are mostly what America depended on before/during industrialization.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

We're running out of taxes to cut. Why not just get rid of taxes completely and fund the government with inflation alone? Seems to be what everyone wants.



If you're not going to fund the government with taxes, then your only other option is debt.

What if, and hear me out, what if we just funded the government less? I don't think we need to be spending tax money on Ukraine or Israel or female crash test dummies or whatever the fuck.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

If you're not going to fund the government with taxes, then your only other option is debt.

Let the machine starve to death.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

What if, and hear me out, what if we just funded the government less? I don't think we need to be spending tax money on Ukraine or Israel or female crash test dummies or whatever the fuck.

But what about good folks responsible for the military industrial complex? They need those DEI Trannies to design diverse test dummies for the bomb ranges to ensure that Israel has the explosives they need to take out every man, woman, child, and xir in Gaza.

 

[Sithis]

Something seems to be afoot in the vipers den. Biden and Kamala both cancelled trips to return to the white house suddenly.

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1869948610877501866

 

[The Ugly One]

Tariffs are an option and are mostly what America depended on before/during industrialization.

Tariffs are taxes.

What if, and hear me out, what if we just funded the government less?

Because voters love the government. Currently, taxes do not even cover mandatory spending (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, not a penny of which voters are willing to see cut) + interest. The fact that government shutdowns result in the politicians demanding less spending getting punished rather than the politicians demanding more shows what the voters want.



Americans need to pay about 20% more tax just to cover the spending they reliably vote for.

Let the machine starve to death.

Government shutdowns are wildly unpopular.

 

[John Badman]

Something seems to be afoot in the vipers den. Biden and Kamala both cancelled trips to return to the white house suddenly.
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Biden is lost and AWOL.

 

[spaztocate9000]

If DOGE does its job and fast, we won't need huge debt ceiling breaking budgets every few months. Might even start paying down the debt, what a concept.

 

[George Lucas]

Tariffs are taxes.

Because voters love the government. Currently, taxes do not even cover mandatory spending (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, not a penny of which voters are willing to see cut) + interest. The fact that government shutdowns result in the politicians demanding less spending getting punished rather than the politicians demanding more shows what the voters want.

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Americans need to pay about 20% more tax just to cover the spending they reliably vote for.



Government shutdowns are wildly unpopular.

Here’s a question: is there even enough USD in circulation to pay off the government debt?

I think government debt is fine so long as the debtors are citizens and those citizens are growing economically.

 

[quaawaa]

If DOGE does its job and fast, we won't need huge debt ceiling breaking budgets every few months. Might even start paying down the debt, what a concept.

Look at the graph:

Even if DOGE cuts all spending to zero (which would never happen), we will still have a deficit.

The only politically palatable way to reduce the dark blue bar is to go after fraud and abuse. Deport all the net-taker immigrants (who draw SS/Medicare without paying in enough), take away the disability pension from every veteran who doesn’t have a Purple Heart (and reform the disability calculation so you can’t stack ADHD and other minor “issues” to get 100% while the honest guy with his legs blown off is only 50% disabled because his arms still work), and audit Social Security Disability Insurance to deny benefits to people with non-disabilities (most people collecting have no real conditions and are just fat). All of this can be done through executive action.

We also need to bring back the 90s era welfare reforms that Obama got rid of (i.e. you have to work to collect benefits) and stop double paying for poor people’s food (there is no reason for school lunch to exist; somehow kids still managed to get fed during the summer even though school lunch wasn’t served then until recently). These reforms would need Congress, which is unlikely.

 

[spaztocate9000]

Look at the graph:

Even if DOGE cuts all spending to zero (which would never happen), we will still have a deficit.

The amount of garbage included in that "mandatory" lie of a label is insane.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Tariffs are taxes.

Because voters love the government. Currently, taxes do not even cover mandatory spending (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, not a penny of which voters are willing to see cut) + interest. The fact that government shutdowns result in the politicians demanding less spending getting punished rather than the politicians demanding more shows what the voters want.

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Americans need to pay about 20% more tax just to cover the spending they reliably vote for.



Government shutdowns are wildly unpopular.

The only statistics I trust are 13% and 50%.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The amount of garbage included in that "mandatory" lie of a label is insane.

Also how much of that is redundant with state spending? IE California taking federal funds because they can't manage their own money for infrastructure.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Something seems to be afoot in the vipers den. Biden and Kamala both cancelled trips to return to the white house suddenly.
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There's a sale on vodka sauce. Biden likes pasta and Kamala is stupid.