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[GunCar Gary]

Something seems to be afoot in the vipers den. Biden and Kamala both cancelled trips to return to the white house suddenly.

presidential emergency about taking care of a government funding bill

or aliens?

 

[MrReeShopper]

We don't need to belabor the point, but this is what I was talking about:
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That's not thousands of feet in the fucking air bro.

Or maybe it is actually. He says spraying the sky. I think you're right. Sorry.

I can't believe you took this seriously. You actually thought this was """mist"""? Unless I'm missing something, these jokers/retards are claiming that a piece of infrastructure is a "drone" "spraying mist".

I thought you were just posting all kinds of mad shit as an archive, but it's clear you're a total schizo sperg who's fucking lost it and are now hell bent on shitting up the thread.

Edit: grammar is hard

 

[Reticulan Joe]

While we can only guess at the origin and intentions of these things buzzing about, one of the key takeaways from this drone imbroglio is the US government is bumbling and incompetent to a dangerous, potentially catastrophic degree. If their objective has been to reassure the public, they've failed. If their objective has been to obfuscate the truth (whatever it is) with a convincing and successful campaign of lies and misdirection, they've failed.

Sometimes the point of propaganda efforts *is* to obscure the truth, though creating enough bogus crap that no one can sort out what’s true and what isn’t. This can actually be more effective than just presenting a false narrative, which can be debunked or replaced.

As long as the goal is “get everyone to sit on their hands and shrug their shoulders” (and arguably it is in this case) then having different parts of government send contradictory messages serves that goal admirably.

That said, bumbling incompetency could also explain the contradictory messaging we’re seeing. In fact, it could be both: a taxpayer funded clown show and people in the know wanting to further cloud the issue!

 

[clipartfan92]

one of the key takeaways from this drone imbroglio is the US government is bumbling and incompetent to a dangerous, potentially catastrophic degree

I'm still going with it all being done by the government to get this passed. Why would the government do it in this manner? There are different factions running different parts of the government and they are not coordinated.

Federal officials’ authority to track and disable drones set to expire
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Dave Collins
2024-12-19 19:02:49GMT

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[fukefacedog]

I can't believe you took this seriously. You actually thought this was """mist"""? Unless I'm missing something, these jokers/retards are claiming that a piece of infrastructure is a "drone" "spraying mist".

I thought you were just posting all kinds of mad shit as an archive, but it's clear you're a total schizo sperg who's fucking lost it and are now hell bent on shitting up the thread.

Edit: grammar is hard

My eyesight became very bad recently.

Despite that I decided to archive this because it seemed important. I only had the chance to watch that video once as I was archiving because I was going very fast. The first time I watched it I thought it was a drone flying low.

For some reason, yesterday, I just suddenly had a very very very bad feeling.

That feeling was wrong. I'm glad it was.

This is an American issue, not a Canadian one, and it's not my place to be butting into your guy's problems.

I just want you guys to be alright.

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

My eyesight became very bad recently.

Despite that I decided to archive this because it seemed important. I only had the chance to watch that video once as I was archiving because I was going very fast. The first time I watched it I thought it was a drone flying low.

For some reason, yesterday, I just suddenly had a very very very bad feeling.

That feeling was wrong. I'm glad it was.

This is an American issue, not a Canadian one, and it's not my place to be butting into your guy's problems.

I just want you guys to be alright.

Get off the internet if you're getting that stressed. The constant spew of bullshit and tinfoil conspiracy is not good for anyone's health. There's a million different reasons and is human nature we look to the ones that are the most devastating. I'm honestly about to take a break until Janurary 21st.

 

[fukefacedog]

Get off the internet if you're getting that stressed. The constant spew of bullshit and tinfoil conspiracy is not good for anyone's health. There's a million different reasons and is human nature we look to the ones that are the most devastating. I'm honestly about to take a break until Janurary 21st.

It just seemed like some of the things i've been thinking have been coming true, I thought for a moment that that might too.

If the thought wasn't so horrifying I would be embarrassed. That was the worst feeling I've ever had.

It's time for me to step away.

 

[Pro. Memer]

The Pentagon finally admits that certain red and green "lights" in the sky to be expected in the coming days, are not planes or helicopters like many have suspected. Although the lights may appear to break the laws of physics, it is in fact a known, but anomalous phenomena. In addition, NORAD will be tracking the object as it travels through American airspace within the next week.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Y29mB6L24YE?t=377s

 

[Ashamed of Yourself]

The Pentagon finally admits that certain red and green "lights" in the sky to be expected in the coming days, are not planes or helicopters like many have suspected. Although the lights may appear to break the laws of physics, it is in fact a known, but anomalous phenomena. In addition, NORAD will be tracking the object as it travels through American airspace within the next week.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Y29mB6L24YE?t=377s

I don't want a bearded fat man in red coming down my chimney, while we sleep, and asking my kids to sit on his lap for presents, nice try NORAD.

Reindeer hooves and shit destroy vintage clay roof tiles, and my ensuing insurance claims are always denied. I am so tired of this, but what can be done?!

 

[The Gene Genie]

It's time for me to step away.

It’s time to lock in.

 

[fukefacedog]

Well the Mayor is live and they were discussing the report that freaked me the fuck out yesterday briefly

https://www.youtube.com/live/REMW1INkpss?si=odcI4LrNHY0U-BZU

 

[Otterly]

Okay so you shoot a single-frequency sine wave that propagates through space with uniform amplitude and direction at somebody, what's going to happen?

You’re saying it’s created a kind of drag on the matter it’s fired at? I’m fairly retarded when it comes to physics, I only go there when it hits my own field of biology, so do excuse me if you have read this already but have you read roger penrose’s work ? There’s a layman’s book (it’s still complicated for my retard brain) called ‘the large, the small and the human mind.’ He talks about microtubules in cells and how they may be involved in mediating the effects of what I suppose is that sort of thing. Effectively like drag on waves/particles/ through fields (sorry, terrible way of explaining it I know particles kind of are fields.) making the world at the quantum scale interact with the large scale
Anyway you may find it interesting.
The hesitation is have with demon face syndrome is that its long lasting. So if it’s a case of whacking someone with a microwave weapon, the effect needs to last which implies a level of damage rather than an effect that’s inducing rams stops when out of range. It’s not permanent always though, so this is interesting.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Ask a Pol (Matt Laslo): HASC Ranking Member Adam Smith: "I don't know what [UAP] means" (archive) (Reddit)
Ask a Pol: Intel member: "public needs to have faith" gov't on top of drones — contradicting FBI (archive) (Reddit)

Metabunk: Ryan Graves - UAP photo from Airliner (Rocket launch) (Reddit)

NYT (Alex Kingsbury): The Great Drone Freak-Out Is Coming (archive) (Reddit - "NYTimes Sucks")
NYT (Ginia Bellafante): How Did New Jersey Become Area 52? (archive)

The amount of NOTAMs has doubled as of today. Mostly over NYC and Long Island. Same reasons given and same altitude restrictions (400 ft).

1996 letter to Linda Howe claiming full contact around the year 2025

Spoiler

Info on additional whistleblowers coming forward (archive)

Spoiler

So I thought I would disrupt the drone/airliner hysteria to share some info this sub might appreciate. I’ve received confirmation that multiple whistleblowers on the legacy program involved in UAP crash retrievals will be going public next month. Efforts are already underway in the White House and Pentagon to obfuscate but from what I’ve heard it’s a done deal. Unless they’re killed, they will be coming forward. For the first time in history, people with direct experience in crash retrievals will be known to the public and the pressure on the USG to disclose will reach a point it will have never reached before. I can’t help but wonder if the ongoing drone stuff is some kind of calculated distraction or is connected to this somehow.

Either way, I thought this sub would appreciate this information. Obviously, I don’t have definitive proof but they’ll be coming out soon for everyone to see. So, let’s keep up the push for true disclosure of NHI and not get distracted by airliners and drones!

The Pentagon finally admits that certain red and green "lights" in the sky to be expected in the coming days, are not planes or helicopters like many have suspected. Although the lights may appear to break the laws of physics, it is in fact a known, but anomalous phenomena. In addition, NORAD will be tracking the object as it travels through American airspace within the next week.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Y29mB6L24YE?t=377s

They are mad about that:
The drones are just Santa Clause … apparently

Spoiler: Video clip

 

[fukefacedog]

You’re saying it’s created a kind of drag on the matter it’s fired at?

Yes but it's hard for me to think about it right now.

I'm very obsessed with Gordon Chang's perspective at the moment.

I have a very uneasy feeling right now.

 

[Otterly]

I have a very uneasy feeling right now.

Perhaps take a bit of a break today and get some fresh air and good food in you? A little rabbit hole is fun, Too much rabbit hole can make you poorly if you’re predisposed to such things. Take care of yourself.

 

[Ben Zener]

no one in new jersey is as freaked out as this canadian rn lol.

im as close as you can get to this activity and nobody even cares. oh greer and elizondo are fear mongering about aliens again? the gubment is lying and being retarded? nothing new under the sun. we're all gonna be fine.

 

[fukefacedog]

no one in new jersey is as freaked out as this canadian rn lol.

im as close as you can get to this activity and nobody even cares. oh greer and elizondo are fear mongering about aliens again? the gubment is lying and being retarded? nothing new under the sun. we're all gonna be fine.

There is something very abnormal about your government's response to this in my opinion.

The reason why I'm so nervous is because the entire world relies on your country.

 

[Ben Zener]

our government has always been this obtuse, about everything

 

[el bandito loco]

the thing that sucks the most about anything like this, is we'll never really know what's going on because there's so much clusterfucking from the civilians all the way up to the top of government.

maybe it's foreign agents and an act of war, maybe it's people with too much money on their hands, maybe it's our own government some really top secret thing they're doing, maybe it's space men, maybe it's extra dimensional ancient gods. who the fuck knows. whenever this is cleared up we'll get an official story that will either be an easier to swallow version of the truth with all the interesting parts cut to avoid mass panic, some total bullshit story, or the whole truth and its mundane nothing that got out of hand due to government incompetency and compartmentilization and nobody will believe it either.

I want to believe in UFO stuff but the problem is there's so much tomfuckery from everyone involved and the state of the media is so untrustworthy you'd never know what's real and what's not. the other thing is maybe a bunch of whistleblowers come out but I sort of imagine the media will just ignore it. it would be absolutely insane to live in the time and moment when something like that happened it could entirely change the world in every way, or be the end of days. It would also be the same thing to plunge into world war 3 for the same reasons.

If nothing else it's just another large example of the government totally fucking everything up by lack of communication and and constantly contradicting each other because we waste all our time arguing over retarded shit and the people in charge of agencies dedicated (allegedly) to protecting us are all just their own bloated little vacuums who really, do jack shit.

 

[Omori Boy]

presidential emergency about taking care of a government funding bill

or aliens?

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Maybe something to do with the looming government shutdown?

Sometimes the point of propaganda efforts *is* to obscure the truth, though creating enough bogus crap that no one can sort out what’s true and what isn’t. This can actually be more effective than just presenting a false narrative, which can be debunked or replaced.

My theory this entire time has been very very very simple. This stuff is on every major news organization website, all over TV, every social media is bombarded with activity. Hell just look at this thread, it's just about doubled in size since this entire debacle. So why would this all be pushed? Because of money. News stations, news papers, social media sites, etc. they're not a service that is meant to publish nothing but the truth, instead they're a business, and just like any other business, they are trying to make more money. And any big even where they can get views, site clicks, interactions, etc. makes money. I very much think that places like CNN, Fox News, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, etc. could find experts like ATC's, commercial jet pilots, etc. to come on and contribute, but instead they interview anybody but. They do this on purpose, everyone would have stopped caring in three days if they just all brought on *real* experts that explained what is seen in all these videos.

The Pentagon finally admits that certain red and green "lights" in the sky to be expected in the coming days, are not planes or helicopters like many have suspected. Although the lights may appear to break the laws of physics, it is in fact a known, but anomalous phenomena. In addition, NORAD will be tracking the object as it travels through American airspace within the next week.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Y29mB6L24YE?t=377s

They do this every year.

I still have yet to see a video that isn't easily explainable.