Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Maybe the Ukrainians remember the decades of Soviet repression, this isnt some conspiracy here the Holhols were brutally repressed under the Soviets. That might inspire me to take up arms against the Russian Federation if my grandfather was hung from a lampost during the Soviet days. Please dong get too upset with me friends I understand why Russia acts the way she does, but its also easy for me to understand the other side
So thats why ukrainian army is channeling their inner abducter and taking men off streets and dumping them on frontlines.

Lay off Ketamine, it isn't good for you.
 
okay I used 3 day Operation as just a joke to ryme with the 3 year year war currently. But this still doesn't seem to explain why the mighty Russian Federation has be halted for nearly 3 years by a comparatively tiny former state

All the training and equipment in the world can only go so far. The United States spent 2 decades training and arming South Vietnam and our Client still lost. Maybe the Ukrainians are just more determined fighters
Are you still drunk? Just how much of this 3 year conflict was Big country vs Little country only? When one side is making its own equipment and munitions and soldiers and the other side gets multiple billions of dollars in equipment, munitions, training, mercenaries, satellite imaging, american-permission-to-launch rockets, and equipment from multiple countries, just how in the retarded fuck do you get that its one on one big vs small?

In this gay era you don’t get one country vs another, you get one trying with secret help from allies against another with obvious help from allies.
If it WAS Russia vs Ukraine only, and they didn’t care about the future and preventing retaliatory terrorist attacks and having to rebuild all the infrastructure, sure, they could have rolled in and roflstomp bliztkrieged their way to victory in short order. But when you want the land you take to have working power plants and water treatment facilities and rail lines, blowing it all to shit only costs you time, money and manpower down the road.

This jew fueled hollywood bullshit of the war being won by the time the movies over and “I beat the campaign in Call of Duty in 6 hours! Why aren’t they done in 3 days!” needs to die in a fire. Shit RARELY goes to plan in combat, the enemies job is to keep you from doing what you want. But hey, let’s just party on the flight deck and hang a huge MISSON ACCOMPLISHED banner and party when the wars still going on, thats the way to win right?
 
In a recent live conversation, Putin discussed the attacks on the Russian Orthodox Church and called the Ukrainian leadership something worse than atheists—Jews who don't even bother to go to synagogue
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Oh, and I almost forgot. A cooking show will be held in the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, from which the authorities kicked out the monks.
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To my mind the only countries that count are Germany, France, the UK (arguably) Italy and (even more arguably) Poland. Every US president from Clinton (maybe even Bush 41) on has been begging Europe to up defense spending. They haven't done it yet, and I see no serious movement anywhere, outside of probably Poland to actually do anything. Last I heard the UK is actually disbanding ground units and cutting head count. And if anybody else is increasing the size of ground forces that's news to me.

Please note that I'm not saying it couldn't happen, that the potential isn't there, but I just don't see the will to actually get done what would need to be done to turn the rhetoric spouted into reality.
I'm 100% behind the EU provisioning it's own protection at the same time NATO being disbanded for good and the US fucking back to its own continent, withdrawing all troops, "advisors" and foreign policy influence from the EU.

I'd feel much safer with a token army designed to upkeep order and stiffle minor conflicts than the US of A "protecting little EU" while creating proxy wars like the georgian or ukrainian one.

Jews who don't even bother to go to synagogue
Why would they? Zionist faggots only worship :tugboat: and went full Sieg Heil nazis with their own holy book, the minecraft mein kampf.

Edit: Also guys you should really stop feeding that retard tourist. He's not even creative with the bs, only brings fake compassion and 1000x debunked bs. Not even funny.
 
Hey gentlemen sorry to come in here and tard out but what do any of you view as the end to this conflict? All things must come to an end, and in my simple view I feel that Ukraine will cede certain Eastern parts of the country, Luhansk peoples Republic and such, and most unfortunately I feel like the Ukrainians will be pressaured to let the Russkies keep Crimea and most imporantely Sevastopol, what do you think.? You guys dont think it will end with Russ Federation troops lifting the flag over the Kiev Opera do you?
Option 1: Russia slowly advances until get they get their target regions then the war slows to a standoff. Ukraine never admits they lost and keeps putting out incursions and attacks which incur Retaliatory strikes from Russia who is forced to ensure Ukraine never rebuilds.
Option 2: Same as option 1 but Russia very publically announces that they have accomplished their mission and the operation is over, stepping down anything that isn't border protection and retaliatory threats.
Option 3: Ukraine's funding and support collapses, they start trying to demand Russia accept their unrealistic peace treaty, and Russia continues until Option 1 and maybe Option 2 are achieved


You say Ukrop failure but I feel by turning the 3 day Special Military Operation into a 3 year meatgrinder I think the Ukrainians have succeeded. What do you think?
That is not a Win for Ukraine. That is not a win for America and European taxpayers. That's not even a phyrric victory. It's like saying that a robber failed because he was unable to steal your car, but he was still able to steal your wallet and eventually use your ID to buy an even better car.


I feel like so many Vatnicks i speak to have this idea of "Globohome" so ingrained into their mind by the "Angloskasi"', Despite what you may have heard most Americans and Western Euros are not homosexuals, we prefer women just like you.
The true culture war is not between Fags and non Fags, but between Western Liberal Democracy and Eastern Nonliberal Monarchy
A century on past the Czars and the Russian people still crave a divine ruler, I understand this need but the time has simply passed unfortunately
The politicians are gay or promoting homosexual values, hence the globalhomo

Maybe the Ukrainians remember the decades of Soviet repression, this isnt some conspiracy here the Holhols were brutally repressed under the Soviets. That might inspire me to take up arms against the Russian Federation if my grandfather was hung from a lampost during the Soviet days. Please dong get too upset with me friends I understand why Russia acts the way she does, but its also easy for me to understand the other side
If you actually looked into the history of the USSR, you would notice that all the leaders responsible for the mass deaths and crimes were originally from the Ukrainian region. Even Chernobyl is Ukrainian.
 
Maybe the Ukrainians remember the decades of Soviet repression
When the Germans invaded the USSR the regions of modern Ukraine most enthusiastic to collaborate were ex Polish lands who weren't affected by the Holodomor and were treated as 2nd class citizens by Warsaw, whereas the bulk of partisans and future red army volunteers who joined up after the Soviets recaptured their lands came from the parts of Ukraine that had spent the past two decades under Soviet rule.

The hatred is not the fault of the Soviets. Its roots lie in West Ukraine/Galacia being converted to Catholicism by the Poles and viewing themselves as a seperate ethnic group (like how Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks or Han and Hui would all be the same were it not for their religious affiliations).

These sentiments would end up getting inflamed a thousand fold by the Austrians who wanted to weaken the Pan Slavic movements in their frontier, it grew violent in the years leading up to ww2 and spawned men like Bandera who would go on to commit atrocities, and it reached its final form after the dissolution of the USSR when the Ukrainian expats the west smuggled out of the Soviet Union (after helping them for a decade continue fighting the Soviets despite previously serving the Nazis) returned and used foreign NGO funding to help them spread their hatred all across what we call Ukraine, even into lands like Kharkov or Odessa which in a world without Lenin's arbitrary border redrawing would be as indisputably Russian as Trondheim is Norwegian.

This isn't some war that was destined to happen over past wrongs, this whole debacle is a prime example of how propaganda can cause brothers to kill eachother.

>The true culture war is not between Fags and non Fags, but between Western Liberal Democracy and Eastern Nonliberal Monarchy

Romania just cancelled its election, Georgia's president is trying to trying to do the same, Germany may ban its biggest opposition party, France threw its nations political sphere into chaos to prevent a center right canidate from winning, Italy elected a right wing leader who immediately chickened out of all of her promises out of fear of reprisal, Spain is led by Socialists who are increasingly acting authoritarian, Britain is effectively a one party state where its illegal to go against any policy in a serious way and all "parties" only argue about how far they should go in any direction, Canada sent mounted police to crush protesting truckers after looking the other way when churches were burnt, Austria handicapped the ability of its right to act in parliament, and ALL of those were just examples I could recall at the top of my head without needing to look them up.

The West isn't democratic. Accuse Russia all you want in that regard but please don't pretend that the modern West is a bastion of freedom.
 
No country in the EU or even the EU as a whole will have a real army as long as the US has any say in it. Anyone believing that its the US getting the short end of this deal is braindead.
Exactly, you’d have to be a very stable genius to believe the current state of Europe is a bad thing for the USA.
 
All the training and equipment in the world can only go so far. The United States spent 2 decades training and arming South Vietnam and our Client still lost. Maybe the Ukrainians are just more determined fighters
Ukrops continually lose the ability to hold ground as evident by recent frontline movements. Just sayin

Addressing the thread overall and not the above quoted gorilla nigger retard: what’s gonna happen is when the last fortified lines get inevitably breached, zelenigger will start losing ever increasing (in geometrical progression) chunks of land as their muppet army will lose the ability to fortify new positions after retreating under continued RuAF pressure - this means shallower trenches, less minefields and less stable staging areas where they can launch fpvs from - also notice how ukromutt counterattacks become increasingly ineffective. The only limiting factor being RuAF logistics. Remember in 2022 when the biggest problem for Russia was their huge logistical shoulder (especially compared to ukrops) due to the horseshoe shape of the frontline? The reason why they stopped short of Nikolaev and had to leave Kharkov area? Well now the frontline is increasingly more straight. Guess what happens next after Pokrovsk garrison gets inevitably punked (where French trained battalion recently deserted from). It’s the ukromutts largest logistical hub in Donbass.

The only place where ukromutts keep holding ground is that tiny Kursk salient - where their retard regime committed their most “elite” chimp detachments for whatever deluded political trump cards evidently being saved for negotiations that now clearly won’t happen, as proven by zelenigger latest chimpout over Orban’s Christmas ceasefire offer. What a retard.

Maybe the Ukrainians remember the decades of Soviet repression, this isnt some conspiracy here the Holhols were brutally repressed under the Soviets. That might inspire me to take up arms against the Russian Federation if my grandfather was hung from a lampost during the Soviet days. Please dong get too upset with me friends I understand why Russia acts the way she does, but its also easy for me to understand the other side
Nice Soviet repression when 3 general secretaries were ukrainian, retard. Go jump off a tenth floor window.

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Hey gentlemen sorry to come in here and tard out but what do any of you view as the end to this conflict? All things must come to an end, and in my simple view I feel that Ukraine will cede certain Eastern parts of the country, Luhansk peoples Republic and such, and most unfortunately I feel like the Ukrainians will be pressaured to let the Russkies keep Crimea and most imporantely Sevastopol, what do you think.? You guys dont think it will end with Russ Federation troops lifting the flag over the Kiev Opera do you?
The only 2 countries that I have 100% certainty that are not owned by Jews are Turkey and China based on their geopolitical actions, I still dont have that trust with Russia yet. My uncertainty remains about the outcome of the war based on Putin's decision of a peace agreement than I do of them losing the war which isn't the case.

Alot of energy is required to produce armor and ammunition, Europe already has problems with both and Ukraine according to today will stop supplying Russian gas to Europe on January 1st. They all admit Russia outproduces them in armor and ammunition and I am assuming it will get worse for them if Ukraine goes through with cutting their gas. Outcome of this decision can mean.
1. To get them into the war. 2. Possibility of the Euros blackmailing Ukraine back providing no support.
Still either option wont her Russia financially if their new recent customer is China. It will take a long ass time for a gas line project to go through Syria into Europe by the time the war is over.
 
Still either option wont her Russia financially if their new recent customer is China. It will take a long ass time for a gas line project to go through Syria into Europe by the time the war is over.
If that ever happens. ISIS is already flaring back up and the inability of the syrian opposition to repel israel is not gonna do wonders for the government's stability. It's gonna be another Lybia for a good long while, which also apparently had a turkish victory.
 
Maybe the Ukrainians remember the decades of Soviet repression, this isnt some conspiracy here the Holhols were brutally repressed under the Soviets. That might inspire me to take up arms against the Russian Federation if my grandfather was hung from a lampost during the Soviet days. Please dong get too upset with me friends I understand why Russia acts the way she does, but its also easy for me to understand the other side
Ukrainian leaders of the USSR.

Resources from throughout Russia and Siberia used to build Ukrainian cities and industry.

Turning Ukraine into the pride of the Soviet Union producing everything from planes and rockets to trains to Aircraft carriers.

Letting Ukrainians run their own federal state, turning it into a Hohol-run, mini Soviet Union.

OHNOES, they were SO oppressed. Let me guess, mostly because some Ukrainian farmers died in the 30ies from the same causes that killed Russian and Kazakh farmers?

Quit reading Ukrainian propaganda masquerading as news, lol!
 
I feel like so many Vatnicks i speak to have this idea of "Globohome" so ingrained into their mind by the "Angloskasi"', Despite what you may have heard most Americans and Western Euros are not homosexuals, we prefer women just like you.
The true culture war is not between Fags and non Fags, but between Western Liberal Democracy and Eastern Nonliberal Monarchy
A century on past the Czars and the Russian people still crave a divine ruler, I understand this need but the time has simply passed unfortunately
You need to quit drinking cos you're making yourself look like a retard lmao.

Sloppy.
 
That was never the Ukrainian’s goals. Russia wanted to protect the two republics. This has been accomplished, but you could easily argue it’s a pyrrhic victory. Ukraine wanted to take back Crimea and the republics, but was willing to settle for just giving up territory and securing a peace treaty, which they were very close to achieving until the UK promised an easy victory over Russia if they just kept fighting. The west are the ones who wanted as many dead slavs as possible, and they’ve been very successful in that.
Agreed, the biggest victors in this conflict were China, America, and Turkey. The biggest losers have been Ukraine, Syria, and Germany.

America used the economic fallout of the war in Europe to wrest a lot of industry away from Europe's industrial powers, primarily Germany. Meanwhile, China has gotten a lot of cheap raw materials from Russia as its Western market shrank.

I do think that a maximalist Russian victory would be a big blow to America's prestige and aura of invincibility though, so it's very unlikely that America stops supporting the Ukrainian war effort.
 
Okay, now that's funny. According to Zelensky, there is no proof of the presence of North Koreans in Ukraine months later because... Russians burn their faces, I guess the Russians also burn the faces of Buryats and Udmurts just in case.
Even after years of war, when it seems that there can be no more cynicism from the Russians, we still see something worse. Russia not only engages North Korean soldiers in assaults against Ukrainian positions but also tries to conceal the losses of these people. There were attempts to keep the presence of North Korean soldiers secret. While they were being trained, they were even forbidden to show their faces. The Russian military tried to delete any video evidence of their presence. And now, after the battles with our guys, the Russians are also trying to... literally burn the faces of the dead North Korean soldiers. This is a demonstration of the contempt that now prevails in Russia—contempt for everything human. There is no reason for Koreans to fight and die for Putin. And even after their deaths, Russia will only mock them.​
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The only 2 countries that I have 100% certainty that are not owned by Jews are Turkey and China based on their geopolitical actions, I still dont have that trust with Russia yet. My uncertainty remains about the outcome of the war based on Putin's decision of a peace agreement than I do of them losing the war which isn't the case.

Alot of energy is required to produce armor and ammunition, Europe already has problems with both and Ukraine according to today will stop supplying Russian gas to Europe on January 1st. They all admit Russia outproduces them in armor and ammunition and I am assuming it will get worse for them if Ukraine goes through with cutting their gas. Outcome of this decision can mean.
1. To get them into the war. 2. Possibility of the Euros blackmailing Ukraine back providing no support.
Still either option wont her Russia financially if their new recent customer is China. It will take a long ass time for a gas line project to go through Syria into Europe by the time the war is over.

Turks are owned by the United States, which is owned by Jews. Turks should be exterminated wholesale.
 
Okay, now that's funny. According to Zelensky, there is no proof of the presence of North Koreans in Ukraine months later because... Russians burn their faces, I guess the Russians also burn the faces of Buryats and Udmurts just in case.

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Fucking classic blaming the enemy for what you do yourself. I still remember chopped heads and limbs of foreign mercs so that you could not identify them
 
Maybe the UkrainiansBlacks remember the decadescenturies of Soviet repressionUS slavery, this isnt some conspiracy here the HolholsNiggers were brutally repressed under the SovietsWhite America. That might inspire me to take up arms against the Russian FederationWhite Americans if my grandfather was hung from a lamposttree during the SovietKKK days. Please dong get too upset with me friends I understand why RussiaWhite Americans acts the way she does, but its also easy for me to understand the other side

You will join up with BLM and take up arms against america I gather. Cool, please livestream it for our entertainment.
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