Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[scathefire]

Your chubes don’t need so much detail. Big pink blob gets the point across very effortlessly

It’s also too flattering, he should look like a deformed, exaggerated blob. The comedy of choob memes comes from the absurdity and disgustingness of how he (and Contra) are drawn.

 

[Cryin RN]

It gets funnier when you realize that Olly went trans only after sleeping with another man pretending to be a woman (Contra). And the guy who Olly converted to the cause may in turn convert others, and who knows how far the chain will go on? All of this just proves that it's both a social contagion and a fetish, and undermines all their 'gendered soul' bullshit.

This is an unfalsifiable theory but here goes, I'd bet that tranny chasers are exceptionally validating sexual encounters for these guys. Chasers are participating in a risky hook up. They're going to be way more flattering as a result so they don't lose their catch off the line. And they focus on all the "right" superficial traits that a tranny would want validated, even the dick. Constant running commentary on how great they look, how hot they are, etc. is nothing like how women respond to men, so that experience would stand out for your average dumpy transvestite who gets ghosted by every lesbian within a 5km radius. They'd feel like they were suddenly hotter shit than they'd ever been. Getting a gas-up from a fetishist is exactly the right way to Pavlov a man into complete delusion. And it makes sense that they're crushed by these guys transitioning, because of the light it casts on those past exciting encounters: he wasn't complimenting you because you're a uniquely gorgeous passoid.... he was complimenting you because he wanted to skin walk you.

But that's only wrong when chasers do it

 

[narcissistic injury]

This is an unfalsifiable theory but here goes, I'd bet that tranny chasers are exceptionally validating sexual encounters for these guys. Chasers are participating in a risky hook up. They're going to be way more flattering as a result so they don't lose their catch off the line. And they focus on all the "right" superficial traits that a tranny would want validated, even the dick. Constant running commentary on how great they look, how hot they are, etc. is nothing like how women respond to men, so that experience would stand out for your average dumpy transvestite who gets ghosted by every lesbian within a 5km radius. They'd feel like they were suddenly hotter shit than they'd ever been. Getting a gas-up from a fetishist is exactly the right way to Pavlov a man into complete delusion. And it makes sense that they're crushed by these guys transitioning, because of the light it casts on those past exciting encounters: he wasn't complimenting you because you're a uniquely gorgeous passoid.... he was complimenting you because he wanted to skin walk you.

But that's only wrong when chasers do it

Contrapoints said basically this exactly when talking about dating apps and dating as a troon

 

[fish fillet]

This is an unfalsifiable theory but here goes, I'd bet that tranny chasers are exceptionally validating sexual encounters for these guys. [...] And it makes sense that they're crushed by these guys transitioning, because of the light it casts on those past exciting encounters: he wasn't complimenting you because you're a uniquely gorgeous passoid.... he was complimenting you because he wanted to skin walk you.

I'd amend that slightly to say that chasers are validating when they know how to play the correct role i.e. the straight man shocked to discover this beautiful woman is a tranny. If they admit from the start they know the person is trans, the tranny can't get the AGP rush of being a true & honest woman. Where's the fun in that? It would be like using a unisex bathroom instead of the one with 'Woman' on the door.

 

[PandaChai]

After watching most of my shows (youtube videos about trains), I popped on this last one to round off the evening.

I didn't think you could get me to want to subscribe to Nebula any less than I already did.
Is "The Prince" really the best you have to offer?

The absolute size of this lad!

It's giving Joan Cusack on HGH

Spoiler: 2014 jumpscare

 

[Ms. Andry]

kinda late and gay but i've just watched the "tubbers had a (s)existential crisis" podcast and i've got to rant, mostly about the butch lesbian handmaiden

Spoiler

so ashley, the butch lesbian, talks about how she gets misgendered sometimes, mostly from her back because she's tall enough to be a short man and wears her hat backwards etc. which doesn't affect her because it's unintentional but she's sensitive about queer people purposefully calling her he/him, they/them or daddy because, she says, "they think my masculinity is more than just fashion" (huh sounds very terfy to me). and she says "very interestingly" she gets this treatment way more from queer community than cishet people, to which i'm surprised pikachu about because like, really bitch?? are you really surprised that people who are obsessed with micro-labeling every little thing they do are misgendering you to your face because you wear your hat backwards?

then tubbers says he gets they/them'd too and doesn't like it, says "it's she/her and i wear it like a badge of honor" and ashley says '"yeah there's pride in it and oh gosh i hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but i love being a lesbian, i love being this form of a woman" literally apologizing to repeat the same thing tubbers just said. she says "when a masculine woman talks about her love of being a woman it sounds terfy, which i don't mean to" it's all just so fucking humiliating to watch. how do these morons rationalize being proud of being an unconventional woman and apologizing for it in the same breath when in the presence of a man pretending to woman, just baffles me.

also this is the same fucking lesbian comedian that went kinda viral for asking someone in the audience about their masculinity and pretended to hang herself when the person turned out to be a tranny. please don't cancel her guise she really didn't mean to call a masculine looking person masculine

 

[ghjoigcbn]

After watching most of my shows (youtube videos about trains), I popped on this last one to round off the evening.

I didn't think you could get me to want to subscribe to Nebula any less than I already did.
Is "The Prince" really the best you have to offer?
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The absolute size of this lad!
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It's giving Joan Cusack on HGH
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Spoiler: 2014 jumpscare

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Yes the money to support independent creators doing nerdy and/ or science adjacent content is going to pay the tubester to act out his weird fetishes and larp as an actor

 

[Hellblazer]

He was the face of the cis-het patriarchy with a shit beard.

Tempted to submit this to the random.txt thread.

 

[The Jackal]

Is "The Prince" really the best you have to offer?

Yes, kind of, which is why I think their business model is questionable. Most Nebula content is just the same kind of stuff you find on YouTube - Nebula creators' channels are just extensions of their YouTube channels - except that you get much less choice because Nebula people are a clique who all have the same tastes and political views. Nebula is like the BlueSky version of YouTube.

But now Wiskus (the CEO) has decided he wants to branch out into original drama. He has ambitions to one day compete with Netflix and Hulu and so on. And this is where Olly comes in because he wants to write, direct and act. But the big problem with this pivot is of course the fact that Nebula doesn't have the budget to make high-quality feature-length productions or TV series, and the only talent they have at their disposal are people like Choob, Lily Alexandre, Maggie Mae Fish, Lindsay Ellis, Hbomberguy and so on.

So on the one hand you have a shittier version of YouTube that you have to pay for and all the videos are made by pretentious breadtubers, and on the other hand you have a shittier version of Netflix with only short films made by pretentious breadtubers. Something tells me this formula is lacking in mainstream appeal.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Oliver hit up the dance floor at Tony’s wedding.
Maybe he’s openly disdainful of them though, who knows. In this interview Contra has a lot of trouble so much as looking at “Riley Grace” Roshong. He oozes disdain throughout. So maybe Oliver associates with them but projects aloofness? Still he did attend their wedding across the ocean. I just don’t understand being friends just because your trans even though you appear to have nothing else in common.
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Kek

He's finally, a certain type o woman.
(But not)

 

[Tombigbee]

Is @sofiabuffgf the new love interest?

‘Her’ linktree is: OnlyFans, “spicy” BlueSky and “spicy” Reddit but I’m not clicking any of those. “Shaking digital ass to support my shit posting hobby.”

Of course Oliver’s little blurb makes it sounds like he’s cavorting with an Elite NYC model when really it’s just some rando troon camwhore.

(NSFW-ish):

Spoiler

 

[Kiska]

But now Wiskus (the CEO) has decided he wants to branch out into original drama. He has ambitions to one day compete with Netflix and Hulu and so on. And this is where Olly comes in because he wants to write, direct and act. But the big problem with this pivot is of course the fact that Nebula doesn't have the budget to make high-quality feature-length productions or TV series, and the only talent they have at their disposal are people like Choob, Lily Alexandre, Maggie Mae Fish, Lindsay Ellis, Hbomberguy and so on.

I mean hey if the daily wire of all things put out Am I Racist (unironically one of the best films this yr) maybe that got their hamster wheels spinning that the breadshitters could do the same. I'd give em a chance and watch the eventual dumpster fire with popcorn at hand, or the 0.0001% chance they make actually good content as a result(?)

 

[Tombigbee]

 

[AssignedEva]

For anyone curious about Ollie's appearance on University Challenge, I've checked the listings and while they start airing tomorrow, St Andrew's vs LSE is going to be on BBC 2 at 8:30pm on New Year's Eve. It's the last round, and I do wonder if they've saved the worst to last and bunged them on the slot people are least likely to be watching what with NYE parties. It'll be available for catch up on iPlayer, so I'll probably put it on while vegging out on New Year's Day.
London School of Economics has Sir Ian Diamond (the UK's National Statistician) and Mark Urban (famed war correspondent and diplomatic editor of Newsnight), along with the CEO of Oxfam and a panel show comedian. My money's on LSE!

 

[Turquoise]

"This gorgeous portrait of me"

 

[Tomboy Tuti]

It gets funnier when you realize that Olly went trans only after sleeping with another man pretending to be a woman (Contra). And the guy who Olly converted to the cause may in turn convert others, and who knows how far the chain will go on? All of this just proves that it's both a social contagion and a fetish, and undermines all their 'gendered soul' bullshit. Contra is obviously perceptive enough to realise this, which is part of the reason he hates Olly so much, but Choob of course can't help broadcasting his depressing sex life to the world.

NO, he didnt troon out because he fucked contrapoints, he trooned out because he was losing steam. If you observe his history properly, theres a pattern to his cyclical actions, every time he loses relevance, he tries to pull something which will make him relevant again, to revitalize his career. Quick Summary
- Before 2018 he was talking political theory while sitting next to his bookshelf, very low viewcount, some friends in youtube space.
- In 2018 he did the contrapoints style video essay rebrand way way before he fucked contra. The content style/presentation radically changed.
- Sometime in late 2018 early 2019 he did the suicide bait storyline with the cosmonaut video which has rarely been mentioned in this thread, idk why
- He also did the bisexual video in september 2019 which got picked up by news outlets as the best video essay of the year. That was 6 months before he started trooning out in April of 2020 during which his video output started slowing down.
- He announced his trooning out in 21 which was probably the peak of his popularity.
- 22 was when the Prince thing happened and he got into acting while also being paid by the government to make videos for them
- 23 was the official entry into acting and Nebula shit while doing interviews with people like Novara Media
Now he considers himself a hollywood celebrity, so he thinks hes safe enough for now. Hes an extremely impulsive bastard, the sex addict shit goes well along with that so he needs dopamine constantly. If he feels threatened or deprived, he will pull something big to get a hit. But lately he has been getting diminishing returns so Im interested to see where he goes. Truly is, youtubes Patrick Bateman.

 

[The Jackal]

NO, he didnt troon out because he fucked contrapoints, he trooned out because he was losing steam. If you observe his history properly, theres a pattern to his cyclical actions, every time he loses relevance, he tries to pull something which will make him relevant again, to revitalize his career.

Actually I think it can be for more than one reason.

Reasons Olly trooned out:

1. AGP.
2. Attention and social prestige among people who think troons are a repressed minority (also good for his channel/acting career).
3. Yes, clearly Contra, as is evidenced by his cringey "guess who's trans now!" reach-out after he did it. It lines up perfectly: sleeps with troon > falls obsessively in love troon > gets dumped > feelings of AGP come to the surface plus narcissistic resentment plus desperation to get Contra back mean trooning out seems like a good idea to him > doesn't work, leading to even more narcissistic resentment.

 

[Tomboy Tuti]

1. AGP.

This is the part Im confused about, if he really is AGP, he wouldnt flip flop between being "lesbian" and being bisexual. Theres the spectrum nonsense, sure but its obvious nonsense. Again part of me thinks there are bits which the farms has missed cause this is one of the least sourced threads Ive seen as a former Olly watcher. There is a ton of backstory to Olly which is swept under a rug, possibly cause this thread was made right when Olly trooned out, ignoring the more crucial and revealing parts of his career from 2018 to 20. Methinks he is not really an AGP, ofc hes a sex addict clout chaser, AGP could be in the cards but he is also an abuse victim at the hands of an ex partner (from his admission) which is probably manifesting as a chunk of the stupid shit we observe him do, including the weird degen shit. AGPs are generally not abuse victims, at least from what I know of.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

This is the part Im confused about, if he really is AGP, he wouldnt flip flop between being "lesbian" and being bisexual.

You are missing the GAMP to AGP pipeline that's very common. You have men who are attracted to feminized males, into the whole sissy fetish shit and then they eventually troon out themselves. This is what happened with Olly; he's "bisexual" but likely only in a fetish way where he's not attracted to regular blokes.

Kat Blaque is a black HSTS YouTuber who's had several boyfriends who've went on to become trans themselves.

 

[Tomboy Tuti]

You are missing the GAMP to AGP pipeline that's very common. You have men who are attracted to feminized males, into the whole sissy fetish shit and then they eventually troon out themselves. This is what happened with Olly; he's "bisexual" but likely only in a fetish way where he's not attracted to regular blokes.

If that was the case, he wouldnt be a "lesbian" currently which is the branding hes propagating. I believe hes doing it for attention, hes a straight guy whos gay for clout, sorta like how men say most bisexual women or non binary women are doing it for clout. Vaush did something similar when he rebranded as gay to avoid controversy, even though hes into little girls and had the ogre gf in 2019, ofc lusted after muslim women and poppy as well. This doesnt mean Olly isnt sexually degenerate, he certainly is but its an attention seeking tactic arising out of the abuse his ex gf did, chasing an emotional high. He is still straight, its not a Chris Tyson situation where hes chasing the goon dragon, hes doing the gooning for attention but its not really what he wants to do deep down.