Fanfiction Horrors

Figured you might have a laugh at this. First JayVik, now Ghoap is canon:

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I do not understand these women. Why take a character who canonically tortures people and turn him into someone who writes sappy love notes to his boyfriend? I remember there's a scene in a tie-in to the original game where he is shown literally about to vivisect someone (SORRY outing myself as a nerd here, I'm not proud of myself).

Nothing wrong with wanting to write about a character being soppy OR with writing about a character that tortures people I guess, but why not choose a character that's actually like what you want to write about instead of changing him in your headcanon? I am so fucking confused. They do this all the time too!!! Why?

Why do they take characters and change them into human versions of Tumblr posts? And why do they constantly cry about wanting diverse fatties in their fiction but then only write fics about tall white guys with abs? Why do they give so many male characters vaginas? WHY.

(Sorry, I don't read fanfic much. I had a pretty horrible IRL run-in with someone who I now assume was a COD fic writer a while back, who asked me inappropriate shit, that's mostly why I've been lurking here. Are all the fandoms this bad?)
 
Well well well. I've found yet another Frankendong fic from the trans Viktor tag, albeit Jayce is the one with the Coke can monstrosity. This one was a rewrite of a normal fic where both were male. The original was perfectly fine, btw.
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Just to reiterate: these Frankendong are just tubes of arm flesh. They do not work the same way natal penises do; all that 'nerve hookup' thing does is bring blood to some areas of the limp sausage they call a penis. Otherwise, they aren't even aware of when they are penetrating their partners.
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Like I said, the original had them both being male, and was completely fine. This author decided to write them both as trans men and turn it into an unintentional comedy. However, at least 'clit' is used and not 'cock' for the roid clit, so some points are given there.

> Throb with arousal
Again, this isn't what Frankendongs do. They just hang there, limp and lifeless, and usually are coated with either arm hair or thigh hair if the pooner didn't get laser hair removal. When I say it resembles a coke can, it does.

> Pulled his pants out of Viktor and out of his pants
Er, what?
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> Jayce's large hand
> Is still a woman, so the hand would be smaller
> Is literally copying and pasting her original work and making it trans
> It's worse than the original (poignant)

Also, click heat? What's that? And it's not hard to take a clit fully into your mouth, even a roid clit. You aren't deepthroating anything.
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How's he gonna feel it? It's got no nerves and no blood flow to speak of.
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That's right: this man has the device that is implanted in the labia (that have been turned into balls) where you have to squeeze them to fill up the pseudo-phallus because it cannot get erect on its own. This is also a contradiction to what she wrote earlier (well, copied and pasted, because the original had them both being men) that had Jayce getting hard on his own. They literally need a steel rod for that thing to work. Sad!

And not to mention that 'cum' isn't even ejaculate half the time. It's normally piss - if they can get aroused since the clitoris has been fully removed FGM style. You're literally getting poked with a weird flesh tube when a strap-on or sex toy would do the job.

All in all, a useless rewrite of the original. But it is interesting to see more Frankendongs show up considering how rare they are - even pooners seem to know it's nowhere near as hot as when you feature actual dicks.

A trans man with self-esteem issues. Name a better duo.
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Now, you might be forgiven if you thought she was referring to 'sex drive' here, but the admittance that Viktor's female sex is 'broken' is misogynistic to the core. Self-esteem issues is the least of your worries when you think that your natal sex is inferior and worth destroying over so you can LARP as a man - and a gay one at that.
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> Men would be my choice
Ah, so your classic straight pooner pretending to be a gay man. I'm sure every man will react like Jayce and be proud to find a vagina instead of the penis they're attracted to. Viktor being jealous of other women and thinking that they're evil for 'taking away his man' is also Pick Me behaviour, with the trans flag attached. Just because you hate yourself doesn't mean other women do.
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> Jayce says he's never been with a man and is open to dating one
> Viktor is worried that his 'male vagina' will turn him off because he lacks male genitalia
> Still insists he is a gay man
The audacity.
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> Feels the limitations of his own body (I doubt T is helping)
> Didn't find his own body pleasing
This coming from the mouth of a trans man really lends credence to them infantilizing themselves. They literally cannot go a day without seeing their female sex and how it 'bothers them', and how inferior it makes them to natal men. I'd say Nature is a brutal TERF, but this is just sad and pathetic.
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Yes, there is no proper punctuation to be found in this story, and the dialogue is as bad as you read it there.
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Stop LARPing as Keanu Reeves, you are not him

> Jayce snapped back to alert
Either this is ESL or the author doesn't even know her own primary language. I'll let you decide.
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> Breathed in words of devotion like love potion
Such as? Jayce didn't say anything.
> Revealing the rosebud within
Ah, I love it when these descriptions of the vagina, that would be deemed cringeworthy if written by a man, are acceptable if a True and Honest Man wrote it. You go get that rose bud, Jayce.
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> Vagina had first dibs on the sensation
Why do I imagine Viktor's vagina acting like Oprah and going, 'YOU GET A CAR, AND YOU GET A CAR! EVERYONE GETS A FREE CAR!'
> What a view. What a view, oh
OH WHAT A DAY. WHAT A LOVELY DAY
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Huh. Didn't know vaginal secretions were sparkly. Our pussy power now includes ~glitter~. You boys can't compare.

And yes, she linked to art she posted on her Bluesky. I can't access it, so I have no idea how good or bad the quality is.
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> Eating another man out
Yes, it's very manly to engage in cunnilingus on a female who hates being a female so much she pretends to be a man. Very, very gay. Very homosexual.
> Very good size, probably just enough to wrap a hand around it
??? That's a normal size? And most people can do that?
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Ouch. Why would you headbutt a frown away?

BTW, he just wrapped Viktor in the same blanket he wiped off their cum with. Disgusting.
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> Has sex for the first time
> Insist it is gay sex
> Already dreaming of future children because you instinctively know Viktor is a woman and can bear children
Lol. Lmao.
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> Play massive word games on how sex and gender are different things and genitalia isn't tied to gender
> Immediately know what sex your fetus/future children are and already decide what hobbies, appearances and names they will have that corresponds to their gender/sex
> Call yourself a 'dad', which means male parent, because you know what sex you are
> Insist Viktor will be a 'seahorse dad' as if you didn't instinctively know he had female genitalia that allows him to get pregnant in the first place
> Literally consider naming your firstborn son (because you know what male children are) Tim

And that use of 'cuz' because you're too lazy to use 'because' is the cherry on the cake.
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YOU JUST HAD SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME. You're acting as if you've known each other for years! Calm the fuck down Jayce! You think a pooner's self-esteem will be fixed by baby fever - oh, wait.

> Squealed like a teenager
I guess all that talk about hating your female body no longer matters when you want to use that uterus to give a man you just had sex with a child. Funny how that works. It's almost as if Jayce knows Viktor is female, because otherwise, why would you focus so hard on kids with a 'man' you just fucked?
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There's that infantilism again. "Woe is me, I'm so broken, also slam my pussy so I can cure my depression with babies. I'll be a 'real man' then."
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Just checked the author's profile: she's Spanish. But she's also been writing fics in English for a long time, so this kind of shitty formatting shouldn't be happening. There are people who have English as a fourth or fifth language and they write literal Shakespeare. This is just laziness and poorly masqueraded baby fever. There is more of an obsession of having kids in these fics than you find in 'trad Cath' circles. Sit on that for a minute.

FTM regular grubbapeach also has another baby-fever fic, because these pooners seem very in tune with the feminine nature they so despise.
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"Oh, I'm losing the argument? Here, lemme flash you my PUSSY and that'll show you!"

Damn, pussy power really IS universal!

> I can feel it, your womb
How long are Jayce's fingers if he can touch the cervix? Does he have yaoi hands?
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I don't know, does he produce eggs? Can he gestate like a face hugger can? Hard to tell with that AAHH UGHH sex dialogue.
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You can use womb no problem, but you can't use clit. Nice.

> Cock-starved Hexcoreized pussy
> wet heat of his lustful womb
OK.
> Crying like a whore
Nothing like trying to set up an intimate moment with pretty stain-glassed ceilings and you call that 'hexcorized pussy owner' a 'whore'. You know those women largely fake their orgasms, right?
> Fucked him full of his potent seed
I want Gordon Ramsay to read this as he stuffs a turkey. Stuffing that thing full of stuffing and goods...mmm, yeah.

But don't worry! She might write more! She's definitely improved since 2022, don't you think?
A little off topic but I love the platonic soulmates trope
Me too! They're so sweet! And rare to find because most think soulmates must be romantic. It's nice to explore intense dynamics that are not bounded by sexual interest.
Soulmark-type soulmate AUs are wish fulfillment for teens, late bloomers and shy autists, just in a less toxic way than the incels' government-issued girlfriends. "Looks like we were both born with the same tattoo; welp, your place or mine?"

Except of course one of them is wearing long sleeves and decides not to let the other one know...
Those are, but I do think genuine platonic soulmate fics are rare because most people think soulmates must be romantic (and I did too, until someone else pointed it out to me). Having two people be so entwined, yet not romantically connected, seems so much purer because that love is not tied to sex. It's honestly refreshing to read it when you find it.

It still isn't as bad as 'soulmark ABO fics' which really are government mandated sex slave fics.
(Sorry, I don't read fanfic much. I had a pretty horrible IRL run-in with someone who I now assume was a COD fic writer a while back, who asked me inappropriate shit, that's mostly why I've been lurking here. Are all the fandoms this bad?)
More or less, the maturity of a fandom varies on the kind of people inhabiting it. Bioshock has a rather mature fandom, and ironically, so does GOT/ASOIAF, but you might find some shit flinging in comments in the HOTD fandom. Otherwise, in those fandoms, shipping is truly multi-ship and it's like a buffet in that any kind of pairing you want or desire can be found and you can enjoy all of them. Fandoms like Arcane, Voltron or Hazbin Hotel or any fandom with a strong tumblr/Twitter presence or known to be toxic. Arcane now is my interest because it's currently the It thing, and the Twitter fandom there is notoriously toxic (they went after Christian Linke for saying Viktor was asexual, saying he was trying to crash the JayVik ship, when he said that was the decision from the beginning and shipper opinion did not matter). I only go there to find good fanart and mock the shitty fanart; otherwise, I find a better, more nuanced fandom on tumblr of all places (there are also more Arcane critical takes there).
 
Are all the fandoms this bad?
No; usually the worst fandoms are going to be for popular media that is still being released, slightly worse if it's a movie/series, then a video game, then a book-only. Not to be elitist, just that if people can be roped in by gifsets on their friends' blogs, you'll have more fairweather fans who are coming in from the last New Thing. Even an older fandom will suddenly bloom into rape and pooners if there's a remake or yet another sequel, see Resident Evil.

There are outliers; the recent revisiting of MG:R in the public consciousness (with no remake attached) has led to a steady trickle of "Raiden gets disassembled/cyborg vagina" stories, maybe one a week. Then again, maybe it's all because of the memes, which I'm sure Kojima would appreciate.

Related story: I bookmarked an author years ago, I think from writing something really thoughtful and interesting in a Current Thing fandom, probably Marvel when it was Avengers. Recently I'd been getting subscriber emails because she is just going nuts on these perfectly in-character, historically-accurate M.A.S.H. fanfics, enough so that I had to look if there was a M.A.S.H. reboot or something that I didn't know about. (No; she just got into M.A.S.H.)
 
No; usually the worst fandoms are going to be for popular media that is still being released, slightly worse if it's a movie/series, then a video game, then a book-only. Not to be elitist, just that if people can be roped in by gifsets on their friends' blogs, you'll have more fairweather fans who are coming in from the last New Thing.

In one sense, that's good to hear! In another sense, the woman who I barely knew who was asking me inappropriate questions (in real life, to my face!) about a male Call of Duty character getting raped was obviously in a video game fandom, and technically this means there are at least two tiers of awfulness below her. I'll choose to believe she was an outlier though, for my own sanity.

Even an older fandom will suddenly bloom into rape and pooners

This is just such a beautiful turn of phrase ❤️
 
Saw this and knew I had to review it.
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An FTM with a puppy play fetish? Say it ain't so.
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White men being jealous of black women, say it ain't so. Mel always gets the short end of the stick in these fics and she's literally just there existing.

I also don't think a man with lung problems should be smoking, either. You'll just speedrun your turbo cancer diagnosis.
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> Foreward
> Forward
This happens a lot with this author. I think she's dyslexic.

In any case, I don't understand why Viktor is nasty to Mel when she's fully aware Jayce has a thing for Viktor. She's setting him up on a silver platter and Viktor dislikes her because...? Well, she's in the way that's what.
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I always raise my eyebrows at these descriptions especially when the character is a pooner. What wide shoulders? What heavy muscles? Male muscles have more density than female muscles do and that's one of the reasons why they have greater pound-for-pound power.

> The thought makes him sneer
She just told you Jayce was more interested in you, asshole. Calm the fuck down. Take the bone she's giving you because it's clear she isn't into that kind of lesbian relationship.
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> His favourite were always the sweetest little pups
Where's Caesar Milan when you need him? I can imagine him with a stick and dog whistle trying to course correct these people.
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Don't mind me, I'm snickering to myself that the token pooner is the obvious submissive and can't help but cry all the time. Where's that testosterone-induced rage?
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> Undeniably a handsome man
Who has a vagina and wasn't clocked because of the smaller forearms, wrist, smaller skull or even the narrower shoulders. You can't hide Nature even in fiction, bud.

So. Jayce admits that he's had his virginity 'taken' by one person - Mel - and even that doesn't really count because it was never specified if Jayce was penetrated or not. So he just had lesbian sex. Why is Viktor jealous of that? It'd be the first time Jayce would take a True and Honest dick...but we can't be offensive can we? Very masculine behaviour to get offended and possessive over a woman's virginity, you know.
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> He even looks like a dog
*Insert white men fuck dogs meme here*
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I hope that candle wasn't lit when he was gone because that's the fastest way to burn your entire house down. Can't have dom triggers or puppy play when firefighters are trying to save your apartment because you dumbass wanted the room to smell like a Powerpuff Girl's birthday party.
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OK, someone really needs to get Caesar Milan here. He needs to get them all collars and leashes and walk them with his pitbulls so they can learn some humility. Let's see how that puppy play works when they're forced to live in a shed outside in the cold.
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> Eases fitting of Jayce
What?

Ah, there's the confession that he has a vagina! Of course, Viktor doesn't mind - not as much prep, and he can pretend that he's still a gay man because Jayce identifies as one! Everyone wins!
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> More sensitive when he got emotional
*Insert 'haha women are so emotional when they get upset' meme*

Viktor admitting that he's so excited to play with a vagina than an actual man's body is...very telling. Hetero-upsetero sex is superior? Whaaaaat?
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> So wet Viktor can hear him
So he's as gooey as a Philly cheese steak, and audible enough that Viktor can hear him. How often has this happened to you, ladies? Are you subtle, or are you a Gooey Louie?

> Sexed out of his mind
Huh, that's a new one.
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I don't think I've read a smut scene so bogged down my paragraphs and boring dialogue before. Usually, they're quick and to the point and all the juicy bits are easy to pick out, but this? Yeesh, it's like taking valium.
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It's so bogged down I don't even know what position they're in. Let's just say the Basic Instinct position.
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If Viktor has seen Jayce shirtless, where are the mastectomy scars? Or was it too dark to notice? If Jayce is shirtless as well, you'd be able to tell the difference between a man's body and a woman's, because men tend to look like a triangle from the back. There are so many subtle differences and obvious ones you can pick up. You mean to tell me that Viktor, the man who notices things, didn't notice?
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Oh, no Rapunzel pubes? I am forever saddened. On the bright side though, no use of 'cock' in regards to female genitalia here - when it's mentioned at all. It is interesting how, in trans Jayce fics, he is referred to with female genitalia more often, while trans Viktor fics lean all in on the male genitalia regarding the roid clit. Something to note.

> All sexed up
But no actual sex.
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> Obsessed possessiveness
Redundant.
> Covering his cock in the lube Jayce was so generously providing
I mean, yeah, that's what the vagina is for.
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> Old walls built tall
Clearly they weren't built bigly enough, he has some terrible walls, terrible walls, don't you agree folks?

> Til of his cock
She meant 'tip' here, but was so coom-brained she couldn't proofread.
> Jayce filling out his hands like they were meant to hold him
Eh? A reference to child-birthing hips? Say it ain't so!
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Like I said, this smut is bogged down by so many paragraphs the sex happens so fast you don't even notice it. There's no draw or pull to it, and it's just...there. You can easily skip it like you would a footnote.
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Boo hoo. More emphasis was placed on him being a dog than there was the sex. All this talk about being 'sexed up' and there's no fire to it. You had more of a fire risk with that unattended candle.
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> Bit goofy walking out in next to nothing
Yeah and you're also cross-contaminating the food. I don't want my bacon and eggs spoiled with your leftover 'juices'.
> Few pieces of protein
...You mean sausages? Eggs are a source of protein. This is as vague as the sex!
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I honestly figured there would be more 'puppy play' here, but it was as misleading as the 'sexed up' bits. If you like giant paragraphs that describe the same shit over and over again with a pooner crying and trying to be a dog, this might be for you, otherwise, it's boring as fuck.

The funniest thing is, this pooner author calls herself 'Dom', but couldn't create a blockbluster like Dom Toretto can. It definitely wasn't about family, here.
No; usually the worst fandoms are going to be for popular media that is still being released, slightly worse if it's a movie/series, then a video game, then a book-only. Not to be elitist, just that if people can be roped in by gifsets on their friends' blogs, you'll have more fairweather fans who are coming in from the last New Thing. Even an older fandom will suddenly bloom into rape and pooners if there's a remake or yet another sequel, see Resident Evil.
There was a lot of interest in 2021 thanks to Village, and then again with Re4 remake, but that dropped off pretty quick because as you said, these people are fandom locusts. They'll gravitate to the hot new thing and then when it gets boring, they leave - but not before dropping trans Leon fics and other weird shit that the fandom never needed.
In one sense, that's good to hear! In another sense, the woman who I barely knew who was asking me inappropriate questions (in real life, to my face!) about a male Call of Duty character getting raped was obviously in a video game fandom, and technically this means there are at least two tiers of awfulness below her. I'll choose to believe she was an outlier though, for my own sanity.
That's fucked up. Instead of asking if you knew the fandom or whether you played the game, they just dove right into that? That's a whole new brand of autism right there. And talking about rape so openly is just...eugh.
This is just such a beautiful turn of phrase ❤️
It's very accurate as well. Pooner fics tend to be wild as hell, more so as they try so hard to be men but end up clocking themselves in their own fics. It's rather funny.

Round Two. This one is not available to non-archive users, but I'll be screenshotting it here for your viewing (dis)pleasure.
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Guys, get it? It's a modern AU. He watches Markiplier, probably Jerma, and has Critical Role bookmarked in there somewhere. He's just so relatable, you know.

> Which is normal for him
God, please do not fucking tell me we are going with the queercatfan sentence structure.
> Topic is ethics of technology advancements in society
....Isn't that obvious? He's typing that shit on a laptop while eating a cup'o'noodles, which is mass produced salt and soy slop. The absolute irony.
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> Occasional pop of his snack
Shouldn't it be a slurp?
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Oh man, you're gonna love what this domestic fantasy turns into. That cuckolding tag is really underwhelming, lmao.
> Viktor doesn't see him that way, really. He thinks. It's okay.
God fucking dammit, we really are going the queercatfan sentence structure.
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With what? What is he fucking Jayce with?
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Ah, that explains it. The True and Honest Gay man doesn't have a cock, he has to use a strap-on that he can't feel and has to imagine he feels sexual pleasure with. Straight sex but with a distinct silicon flair.
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What strength? Those are pooner arms, homie. And it's not like this iteration of Viktor has hit the gym and is capable of throwing Jayce, a natal male who's ripped as fuck, around.

That's right: this fic starts by Jayce 'accidentally' sending Viktor a video where he cums on himself, which sends Viktor into a mode where he sends him videos in turn of him getting fucked by other men. If you think I am joking, I am not - and the author actually steals a line and plot point from MGCraig, which I'll point out in Chapter 2.it's friday 7.PNG
Don't ass dial, homies. Else you'll end up like this.

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Wait until you see what the message is.
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That's right: that's a 'reference' to MGCraig's work where she had the exact same line and the exact same picture, with Viktor having a dick in his mouth. There's also a reference to 'Message Deleted' another inspired work that had the videos being sent to Jayce. So this woman is casually 'burrowing' the smut from two more popular trans authors to make her work look better.
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> Feels like he's intruding on something private
...How? The video was sent to YOU first; you can't be intruding on something sent to you as a means of getting your intention.
> What does this mean?
Viktor is cucking you and wants your dick in his mouth. Because every pooner happens to be the campus slut, y'know?
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> It's so raw, so personal
And he has the nerve to ask 'what does it mean' lol
Best ask Viktor for an STD test beforehand.
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> The video is a declaration of love
No, it isn't. It's a 'come on, won't you fuck me? These guys fucked me' type of video, meant to tease and humiliate. If Viktor wanted love, he'd make and send a solo video. This is just cuckoldry.
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> makes it feel like he's invading his best friend's moment
First of all, no - he was the one who sent it to Jayce in the first place. That was done intentionally as a way for Viktor to 'show his interest' by having another man's dick in his mouth. Second, it's raw, but it ain't all that intimate. That's just casual sex.

> Hairy cunt
Ugh, can't have a fic without the Rapunzel pubes. I get it, pubic hair is normal, but writing it like that makes me think you have a yeti down there.
> Does he want that to be us?
...Yes? Was that not clear, retard?
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> It's about love
Nothing says love like sending your intended a video of you getting your hairy vagina fingered by a stranger, and getting throat gonorrhea on the regular. Fun!
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Gotta love how the open lesbians are the 'emotional support lesbians', because that's all women are for. It's in the tags so it's A-OK, fam.
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> Vi asks Jayce what happened after he told her what happened
Nice writing. Maybe he should've included the 'I watched my friend's hairy vagina get fingered as a means of stoking my jealousy' thing.
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> That's intense
Yeah, that's an adequate response to 'Hey my best friend just sent me videos of him getting fucked by other men, what do I do?' scenario. 'Intense' doesn't even begin to cut it. It has the same cadence of Rick Grimes' 'Stuff. Things.'

> You think Viktor's celibate or something?
Not with that throat gonorrhea and that hairy vag getting fingered, he's not.
> Never thought of him that way, you know?
I mean, you already knew he was trans. You didn't know he was the campus slut?
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I think you have passed that point, homie. Once your 'best bud' sends you videos like that, it's over.
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It's OK, Jayce. Just watch some Jerma and you'll be right as rain. You'll get the courage in no time.


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Buddy, your 'best friend' just sent you softcore porn videos. I do not think you fit until the traditional bill of 'friendship' anymore.
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Look, there is the Idiots in Love trope, and the Retards in Denial. Jayce is the latter. Obviously, the clues Viktor is giving Jayce are dead obvious, but Jayce seems to think this is normal behaviour. Buddy, you are past the pervert point. You are at the 'hedonistic fuck party' point.
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That's it? You know women have a shorter refractory period. We can do it multiple times a day if we so choose.
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You had to take the line from a better smut fic to write your fic, I think that spells out 'unoriginal' and 'cheap bitch' IMHO.

> He couldn't believe that
OK, now you are 100% retarded Jayce. There literally is no getting through to you about what Viktor is trying to tell you. This guy just sent you a video of his hairy vagina getting fingered and you can't get the hint?
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Imagine that, the pooner is talking sense.
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Well, someone had to say it, even though it's ridiculously OOC. But you go, Trans Viktor. Tell that retard what's up.
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Oh for the love of - HE SENT YOU A CUCKHOLD VIDEO OF HIM WITH SOME OTHER DUDE'S DICK IN HIS MOUTH. CAN YOU NOT GET THE FUCKING HINT ALREADY?!
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It wouldn't be unfair if you took the hint and the initiative. Stop working with a room temperature IQ and this wouldn't happen.
> Like he's just been fucked hard
You are not going to believe how many times Jayce is going to ejaculate in the next few chapters. It'll shock you.
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Ugh. Enough with the queercatfan sentence structure...it's retarded and people need to stop copying that shitty style.
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When I first read this, I wondered: 'is this another Frankendong? Did I miss the tags?' but no, it's a t-dick. This 'huge and wet and hanging' thing, mind you, is only 1-2 inches. With a metoidioplasty, you will get four. Under no circumstances is it 'huge', it is the size of a school eraser/pen cap/Indian man's dick. It's a joke, if anything.

> Feeling the heat, the softness, the velvet
...You felt all that with 1-2 inches of length? Incredible.
> He's never done this before. He's seen it in porn
He's watched trans porn? Trans male porn? Then he should know it's just straight sex with different labels, and a bunch of vaginal suppositories because of what T does to the vagina. Guess he didn't read those kinds of books/ studies.
> The hair tickles his face
Imagine having a bush so hairy it's thicker than Jayce's would-be beard. Jesus Christ. It's so thick it could trap grenades.
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> Takes it as far as he can
> It's only 1-2 inches, meaning it barely will get past his tongue
> He chokes on it anyways because the author wants to see it as a true and honest penis
> He's never been those close to another man's body, even when it's a female body but he tells himself it's a man
> Still writes him as 'choking on Viktor's cock' even when it's a literal micropenis
Kek.
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This is the first time Jayce ejaculates, and he comes a least three more times with a strap-on that's magically bigger than the roid clit that Jayce somehow choked on. I am not joking.
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I thought it was so huge he choked on it? Now you need to enlarge it again? Man you gotta be consistent with these roid clit measurements - you're really triggering my autism now.

> he can feel him getting wetter and wetter
Is he referring to Jayce? Because the anus doesn't lube by itself and Viktor's saliva isn't going to be enough for an anal virgin.
> Leaking pre cum like a fountain, a stream dripping down his dick
His refractory period is legendary, as is that sperm production. it's barely been five minutes and he's ready to go again!
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"Eat it like you eat those cup o noodles, you motherfucker."

> The base rubbing his cock
Lmao, what cock? That thing that changes size like Stretch Armstrong in the cold?
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Slides into him without any lube, inside an anal virgin. If you can write Jayce ejaculating three times in a row, you can make a reference to using lube. That shit is gonna hurt.
> His dick inside him is the only thing keeping him together
Must be nice having a dick inside you the same colour as Sully from Monsters Inc.
> Lights him up like a Christmas tree
...interesting description there.
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Oh, so NOW he uses the lube. What a guy! I'm so proud of him. Could've done that before but whatever.

That's the third time Jayce has ejaculated. He does it again a few sentences later.
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> Well oiled machine was used twice
> The quip that he's going to die but he's happy to die this way was also used twice
> Jayce has more pre-cum than a breeding stallion
Amazin'.
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Annnnnnnd that's the fourth time he has ejaculated, because he has a magical refractory period. Imagine if actual men had that, instead of falling right the fuck asleep after three thrusts!
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Now I am confused. Is this a Frankendong or not? Because now it's acting like an actual dick and appears way too big to be a roid clit. The author previously wrote that this was a t-dick, so I guess it really is a Coke can dick. This means this is the third fic with a Frankendong.
> He can feel every inch inside of him
Too bad Viktor can't feel whether that arm flesh tube has gone inside Jayce or not.
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Jayce said he 'felt so fucking full' twice, and how he's 'never felt anything like this before.' Guess he can cross 'fucked by a Frakendong' off his bucket list.

Annnnnnnd Jayce is hard again. Amazing. This will be the fifth time he has ejaculated.
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This man should be studied - he's not on any sort of drug and he is ejaculating like a star stallion. In the good ole days he'd be on Jackass and the Guinness Book of World Records for that feat.
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Now comes the real question: does Viktor have a fully functioning penis AND vagina? Or is it a Frankendong? Because a t-dick aka roid clit is NOT long enough to fill anyone up, and a Frankendong has to be inflated to get hard. Where is the come coming from? It's not semen, is it? Or is it some weird mix of that and vaginal ejaculate?

I am now confused. First this author rips a line from MGCraig, and now comes a thousand questions of whether Viktor has both parts. Where was this 'massive cock' when he was getting vaginally fingered? How'd it grow to such a huge size?

You might've come for the bad porn, now you're here asking the existential questions. What the fuck did I just read?
 
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That's fucked up. Instead of asking if you knew the fandom or whether you played the game, they just dove right into that?

It was even worse than that, this happened after a conversation we'd already had in which I'd told her that my familiarity with the old MW series canon was because I used to play it with my older brother, and that I played the newer campaigns based mostly on that. So she brought up rape after I'd made it clear that it was a topic I associated with like, wholesome nostalgic family activities. There's a reason I am still triggered by it enough to come complain here (:_(Total autism attack.

That's a whole new brand of autism right there. And talking about rape so openly is just...eugh.

Right, like fanfiction itself is cool, and personally I don't even have a problem with it if you do want to write about everyone in your favorite video game getting idk, raped to death and eaten by dogs or something. They're fictional characters, so whatever. But what the hell happened to people's boundaries, I swear those used to be a thing.

It's very accurate as well. Pooner fics tend to be wild as hell, more so as they try so hard to be men but end up clocking themselves in their own fics. It's rather funny.

The posts on the pooner subreddits all read like they're written by girls who got frozen on Tumblr in 2017 so I am not surprised that something similar applies to their fanfiction. Fucking tradwives are somehow significantly less feminine in their writing style than pooners.
 
I'm not going to link this because it's already been retracted, but a Dreamwidth fanwork gift exchange for Christmas recently gained a bit of noteriety in the Star Trek fandom (or at least certain Deep Space 9 circles) because of a hilariously bad request that the admins of the gift exchange were begging for someone to claim in time to make something for it. It got posted in a bunch of different Discord servers (which is how I saw it, lol) and to my knowledge never got any takers - I think it was retracted because the admins went to the requester and asked them to come up with something else. I understand there was a lot of roasting going on in DMs.
The ships in the request were:
  • Elim Garak/Enabran Tain (note: this is a son/father incest pairing)
  • Kelas Parmak/Enabran Tain (note: Kelas Parmak is not actually a canon character, he got mentioned in one line on the show and appeared in some of the books where he didn't get much of a personality anyway, his fanon characterization is literally all over the place and he's usually just a bullshit OC with a canonish name. Never click on fics that have this mf tagged as a character, they all suck)
  • Julian Bashir/Enabran Tain
  • Julian Bashir/Elim Garak/Enabran Tain (again, Tain is Garak's dad)
  • Julian Bashir & Enabran Tain
  • Elim Garak & Enabran Tain

Note that the last two pairings use & instead of /, which indicates a platonic or familial pairing instead of a romantic or sexual one. This is especially relevant because the requester's list of "do not include"s consists of:
- Anything sexual! This includes sexual attraction. Romance, such as crushes, dates, flirting etc is ok! Im sex repulsed and would rather avoid it.
- extensive making out, or making out with tongue
- uncomfortable with closed mono relationship dynamics as a multishipper (such as "X is taken, you cant flirt with them", cheating, etc) and prefer to see everyone as polyam
- No romantic Garak/Bashir, but queerplatonic or platonic is more than welcome
- no neck kisses, A/B/O dynamics, nudity (such as shirtlessness)
So yes, they listed a bunch of romantic pairings, obviously KNOWING the difference between romantic and platonic pairings, then said they didn't want romance. They also said that they didn't want romance of a pairing where they put both of the characters in a threeway ship.
(Edit: Deleted something because I misread one of the listed pairings.)

They also brought up being a multishipper to explain being "uncomfortable" with characters being paired with only one other character as a time... when in reality most multishippers are more like "I ship character A with both character B and character C, so I wrote one fic where the pairing is A/B and another fic where the pairing is A/C". I have genuinely never seen anyone say that because they ship A with both B and C then having A/B or A/C on its own makes them uncomfortable and it always has to be A/B/C.
Which, mind you, is also listed in the pairings list -- they suggested both their cuck polyamorous ship of Bashir/Garak/Tain AND Bashir/Tain, and Tain/Garak. If they're "uncomfortable" with it not being a poly cuck ship, why didn't they just leave it at Bashir/Garak/Tain? Why list the other two pairings?
Also, the polyam stipulation strongly implies that this requester would hate to see anything involving jealousy... while requesting fanworks revolving around one of the most deeply petty characters in the series who outright considers his pathetically loyal son to be one of his enemies. If you're gonna ship this guy and keep it in-character, there's gonna be jealousy of some kind. (Actually, listed under what the requester did want is "toxic relationships". But you can't include jealousy or cheating?)

They also posted the most batshit headcanon of Enabran Tain I've ever seen.
I headcanon Tain as a fully aroace trans man, Bashir as trans and bi and Garak as gay and agender! Tain is my favourite character in all of Star Trek and he is extremely underrated. I personally see him as an orphan who climbed his way up to the top against all odds, but not without the trauma of growing up in such a society. He doesnt realise hes traumatised, and just thinks the way he is is normal. With emotional walls set way too high, extreme paranoia and alcoholism to deal with his depression and PTSD (he doesnt remember most of his childhood), i find it quite fun to think about scenarios where he begins to trust someone and mildly lowers his fortress, letting himself enjoy the affection hes never had. He is also quite a smug character and its very visible in his interactions with Bashir in The Wire and Garak in Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast.
If you know anything about the show, everything in this paragraph is out-of-character.
For one thing, Tain being a pooner simply does not work because that would imply that he is the one who gave birth to Garak... the same guy he literally said "I should have killed your mother before you were born" to on the show. Pregnant Tain would have either aborted or thrown baby Garak off a cliff after delivering him. To say nothing of the fact that a "fully aroace" character is not going to spawn a bastard child to begin with.
Tain as an orphan doesn't work either due to the fact that the show literally had an entire episode about how orphans have no status in Cardassian society (which is a theme that doesn't just go away in other episodes, either). Tain was the head of basically the KGB and is stated to have had even more power than the actual ruling body of his country. "Climbed his way up to the top against all odds" is an incredibly retarded handwave. While there's no canonical information about his parents, it's stupid to assume he didn't have any. If you really wanted to write a story with this premise, you'd have to actually write it about this premise instead of randomly throwing it into the background of some weird incestuous "queerplatonic" Christmas ship fic.
"Emotional walls set way too high" and "extreme paranoia" actually do describe his character, but on the show they're part of what make him basically an irredeemable piece of shit who is functionally an antagonist in literally every episode he's in. Those traits aren't there to woobify him. Bringing up The Wire and Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast is not a good move since these are the episodes where he's at his peak of being of a vindictive asshole! The Wire (Tain's introduction) literally has him give Bashir medical information to use to save Garak's life explicitly because he wants Garak to suffer instead of dying in relative peace. While a decently talented writer COULD use these character traits as a way to humanize him, this requester is just throwing this out there like you're just supposed to accept out of hand that Tain is just a poor widdle traumatized babby pooner who only acts the way he does because of muh PTSD!
Also making him an alcoholic is wild because DS9 already has a character who is given the alcoholism-to-cope trait to make him more sympathetic (Damar). Then again, there's some weird as fuck fandom stuff revolving around that guy.

All in all, I wouldn't take this request either. This is clearly someone who already has a very detailed fic in mind but wants somebody else to write it instead of them. They'd probably just get upset if someone did write it and inevitably got some of their retarded imagined details wrong.
Also, the trans stuff + the insistence on "queerplatonic nontraditional" relationships gives the vibes of a person who would get VERY VERY MAD if the hypothetical person writing a fic for them had problematic fics also on their account. (Requesting an incest pairing is, of course, also problematic, but I feel like this person would justify it with "I didn't want it to be actually sexual!" and shit like that.) (I'm not saying that the requester is like that since I didn't check their profile, that's just the impression that their request gives off.)

Overall, it just comes across as a veritable minefield of red flags. I really hope that the reason why it got retracted was because the requester got thrown out/convinced to ask for something more normal and not because some poor soul actually decided to take it. (Or if someone did take it, they're just planning on coughing up a shitty doodle of Tain standing around next to Garak and Bashir. And everyone has their shirts on!)
 
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This user's birthday is today, so she celebrated with a classic ABO fic.
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In case you aren't aware, in any universe where there's ABO, the omegas are second-class citizens that are slaves to biological processes. They are stand-ins for women, if women had 'scent markings' and estrus was announced like the telltale sign of axe body spray. In this instance, Viktor is aware he's an omega, but he's never had a proper heat until he has proper health, and happens to get it when his health ironically starts deteriorating. Before then, he lived in total ignorance when he should've started getting those when he was still somewhat healthy at 25.

> Unattractive omega
Excuse me? Viktor is gorgeous, you shut your dirty ass up.

Of course sex would be underwhelming - you're giving up your body to random males in an attempt to 'feel' something, and do nothing to actually make it appear as if you instigated such activities or prioritized your own pleasure. Omegas just lie there and take it and it's somehow progressive.

> His dominant scent
Anyone want to take a guess as to what it smells like? A Yankee candle? My bet is on cabin pine scent, when you need to cover up a bad shit.
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Ah yes, there's nothing more progressive than suggesting a portion of the population is hysterical and useless once they go through 'mood swings' and are irrational, silly things that need to be fucked! Who might they be referring to, I wonder?
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> Kisses his teeth
Okay...?
> He should be in the arms of an alpha
Never escaping those tradwife fantasies, I see. Their only purpose is to get fucked and bred, and they make that clear right at the end.
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Ah, gotta dish out that hate towards the token black girl who did nothing wrong. You, as a white man with an Omega Pussy TM, need a MAN, a MALE WITH A PENIS, to breed you and fuck you because nothing else comes close. You need to be bred like a ram on a ram rack, or like a stud needs to have its sperm collected to create thoroughbred race horses.

The animal imagery in these fics is intentional. They act and fuck like animals because the origin of ABO isn't just Supernatural, it has ties in the furry fandom, too.
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That's right: getting carried bridal style causes 'rushes of slick' for these humans squids. Squish 'em and they'll squirt all over you like they're a toy from Hasbro.
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That's also a nice way for their gums to get eaten away and for them to loose their teeth. Who knew omegas had to eat like vegans? And apples don't provide the nutritional value one needs in a day. You mean to tell me only alpha males can eat steaks? Poignant.
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Must be one ripe apple - haha, get it, it's a reference to Viktor's vagina!
> Kiss me fuck me knot me breed me
Is this a new Cardi B song?
> He needs to be rammed into the mattress
Gotta have those thoroughbred foals - I mean humans.
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Jesus Christ, a smile makes you drip like a faucet? Do you need a Martha Stewart towel shoved up there?

> Maybe what's happening isn't the disaster he thinks it is
For a genius, he sure didn't do a lot of reading on his condition. You'd think him knowing he's an omega would cause a curiosity as to what that means and what it does; after all, he's a second-class citizen twice over now.
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> His condition has made him insecure
These fics cannot help but infantilize Vitkor, a disabled man, despite all their attempts to claim they're also disabled (read: fat) and how they're 'writing him properly'. The fact he never instigates sexual activity or prioritizes his wants is deliberate; you have to make the sickly man a slave to other's wants because that just fits the MO. He has to be bred by a 'proper alpha' because that's all he's good for. Sound progressive? Congrats, it's a progshit writing it.

> Made his scent bloom into the room
Is he a mushroom spreading spores? Because it sure does read like it.
> Wants his cock pumping cum into his womb
What did I just say? So much for 'biological essentialism'; omegas really are cum-dumpsters and they take pride in being nothing other than a sperm receptacle. How liberating. Cue the 'it's OK because no women are involved' when they are clearly stand-ins for women.
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Jesus, he leaks like a broken water main. Anyone got a cork?

> The wettier, the easier for your cock to slide inside of me
He forgot, 'all the better for you, my dear'.
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HE PLAYED HIM LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!
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Ah, there's that Hispanic Hog. Always the Big Dick Ritchie, the Man Meat Monster. Gotta have that for your heterosexual - er, I mean ABO fantasy. The super wet, tight vagina and the big dick. Classic combo.

And yes, he has a knot like a dog. Keep that in mind.
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> He needs to be shown he's a pretty omega who deserves to be fucked and bred
So that's all you're good for? You're not an independent person worthy of respect? A full human? Just a 'wet cunt' meant for an alpha male's sperm? I wonder what the author means with this kind of psychology: the progshit autist who probably is a bit dumpy and hates men, yet desires to be fucked and bred by a hot white (or light skinned Hispanic) male? Hmm. Something can be written about that.

> Alpha is too massive
Because we have to highlight the size difference because only alpha males can eat right, get fit and be healthy. It's almost Andrew Tate levels of parody.

> He underestimated its size
Lemme guess. It's One Guy 1 Jar jar kind of big.
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I thought he was talking about Jayce's sperm for a moment, lmao
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How nice: because being on 'your heat', your cycle, makes you irrational and childish and unworthy of being treated like a full human being. You're just so silly when you're on your cycle! Unlike us alpha males, forever rational and superior and worthy of civilization.

> He could start crying
Over a fucking SCENT? Go store it in a Yankee candle and fuck off and move on with your day. This fucking infantilism pisses me off. Are you that fucking useless you have mental breakdowns over not smelling an alpha male's taint? Guess so.
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> Walks around outside still somewhat covered in cum
> Other alphas want to jump him
> Viktor debases himself by comparing himself to 'prettier' omegas
> Sees Jayce's apartment and wants to nest in it like he's a fucking bird
Amazing.
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I wonder what that smells like? Old spice, or baked apple pie?
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> Complain about disabled (and asexual) rep
> Write a disabled asexual character as his sole existence and state of being reduced to wanting to be fucked and bred by an alpha male in something even Andrew Tate couldn't dream of
> You're an autistic progshit writing this
> Have human characters act like birds building nests because making a pillow fort doesn't sound as cool
> Treat this seriously
> People like this genre
The irony.
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So is he gonna use that Hispanic Hog in the pillow fort? What's it smell like now, turkey?
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So. It really is as big as One Guy 1 Jar's jar.
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> He feels like a horny teenager
Yeah, that's what happens when your entire identity revolves around you being a second-class citizen unworthy of human and are treated like a prized breeding mare. Even then, mares are treated with more respect as they have monetary value attached to them and can kill a stallion with one kick if she doesn't like him. Omegas have fewer rights than barn animals, imagine that.
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Oh, look at that. They really do breed them like horses. Getting fucked by behind is, ironically, something that doesn't imply intimacy and is just there for you to treat the other like a one-time thing. AKA you're fucking like animals.

> Large hands wrap around his waist
Oh, for fuck's sake. Jayce out here with the yaoi hands. Viktor isn't that goddamn small.

The author writes that Jayce 'refuses to treat Viktor like a fragile little thing', when she just wrote Jayce's hands encompassing his waist, and then this:
> The alpha is crushing him into the mattress, saturating him with his cock, weight and scent
Hm, wonder what it smells this time? Something Gordon Ramsay would cook up?
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> Impressive gush of slick
Huh, maybe he can do the Gwyneth Paltrow thing and make a candle out of it. He can title it 'My Omega Vagina'. It'll be a bestseller.
> He's pleading, he's begging to be handled, and owned, and bred
Wow, you really ARE a thoroughbred on the pasture, waiting for the stallion to mount and get that prize winning race horse inside that six figure uterus, aren't you? Anytime I read this shit, I immediately think they are animals. It's so ridiculous as to eliminate any gravity or pizzazz to the smut. I expect them to be dragged around by the promise of oats and a carrot.
> Washing his innards with his seed
> His cock is still pumping cum into his omega's womb
> He's above to discover how much he can take
He's pumping so much cum he should be hired to put out fires. Who needs water when you've got this man?

>Unworthy of a renowned scientist
Too little, too late. The disabled scientist is little more than a slave to hormones, whose only purpose is to be 'fucked and bred'. How progressive.
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What, can Viktor not feed himself? Are omegas so useless they cannot make meals for themselves? Next you'll tell me they can't be trusted to drive, or vote, or own credit cards, or occupy positions held by alphas...oh, wait.
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Yeesh, did it smell like a mukbang in there? Someone get Nikocado Avocado.

> he can't go to work wearing Jayce's scent
But he goes out in public wearing it to make the trek back home. Make it make sense.
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You really are like race horses/purebred dogs, eh? Just waiting around to be sold on the market. How very liberating.
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You'd think a renowned scientist would want to escape such horrific social binds and not be defined by wanting to be 'fucked and bred', but nah. That's all it comes back to. Just remember: it's progressive provided women aren't involved, even when everything describing the omega happens to include all the worst stereotypes and reasons regarding why women were not considered people.

So yes, court that prized mare - er, renowned scientist with his independent personality. They certainly won't fuck like absentminded animals in the end.
Right, like fanfiction itself is cool, and personally I don't even have a problem with it if you do want to write about everyone in your favorite video game getting idk, raped to death and eaten by dogs or something. They're fictional characters, so whatever. But what the hell happened to people's boundaries, I swear those used to be a thing.
These autistic pooners have none. There's a reason why most VAs tend to avoid them because they ask them deeply personal questions like whether their ship is canon.
The posts on the pooner subreddits all read like they're written by girls who got frozen on Tumblr in 2017 so I am not surprised that something similar applies to their fanfiction. Fucking tradwives are somehow significantly less feminine in their writing style than pooners.
Lmao, yeah. Look at the case I posted above: these are progshits writing this stuff, and they end up creating tradwife fantasies tradwives themselves don't even come up with, and have scenarios that would make Fuentes' groypers blush. In their attempt to be True and Honest men, they go right back to their base desires in ways most of us True and Honest Women usually don't touch on.

Oh, and @Petrusha the White your comment reminded me of this. There was drama in the Arcane fandom after co-creator Christian Linke said Viktor was asexual. They got mad because it was 'bad rep' and 'tried to sink JayVik' even when the decision was made before the show came out.
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> He can be gay, asexual and get down and nasty
So he wouldn't be asexual. He'd just be a gay man. 'Ace/aros' have a weird complex where they are not interested in sex but will whip out that cooter when it comes to a hot (white) man.

She also wrote this particular fic wasn't trans rep, but that it's still PIV sex which is heterosexual sex, even when it involves Viktor's new body which, to be fair, can have an arrangement of new genitalia. Regardless, this is a female, trying to use the 'transmasc' label, getting mad at Linke's ace comments, while also writing your basic bitch het fic while saying it's gay.

On a funnier note, this obvious troll fic pissed a lot of people off:
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Over a fucking SCENT? Go store it in a Yankee candle and fuck off and move on with your day. This fucking infantilism pisses me off. Are you that fucking useless you have mental breakdowns over not smelling an alpha male's taint? Guess so.

I wonder if some of the "scent" fixation is an unconscious yearning for physicality or physical presence since most of these girls have probably experienced their lives (including "relationships") mostly through a computer screen.

Also it simplifies the idea of attraction and even removes the burden of choice to some extent. Don't have to think about whether this course of action/person is actually good for you, just whether he reminds you of the right seasonal candle.

(Speaking of which, did anyone ever write an ABO fic in which everyone catches covid and it causes social chaos? That's the type of thing I'd actually enjoy reading lol)

So he wouldn't be asexual. He'd just be a gay man. 'Ace/aros' have a weird complex where they are not interested in sex but will whip out that cooter when it comes to a hot (white) man.

Do you think the amount of people claiming to be "asexual" when they obviously like sex, and the complete lack of sexual boundaries among this crowd, could be related?

Like maybe 90% of the time "asexual" is nothing more than a self-protective label: these girls can't actually articulate the way their boundaries are being violated by the gross people they surround themselves with, so they call the feelings of revulsion they experience "asexuality"?
 
I wonder if some of the "scent" fixation is an unconscious yearning for physicality or physical presence since most of these girls have probably experienced their lives (including "relationships") mostly through a computer screen.

On the other hand, "scent" fixation and kinks is also a thing in fanfics clearly written by males, although those tends to also include other body parts/functions with the said scent kink, i.e. feet or underarms, or piss or shit in the more extreme cases.
 
(Speaking of which, did anyone ever write an ABO fic in which everyone catches covid and it causes social chaos? That's the type of thing I'd actually enjoy reading lol)
I saw one where a character had a bad sense of smell, maybe from having his nose broken a lot (character was a cop) so in an Omegaverse world he was serially unaware that people had the hots for him.

eta: wholly misremembered the setup; character's parents smoked.

Weird that anosmia isn't an official tag; it seems like a decent plot device. But then again, the story I half-remembered wasn't even tagged with it.
 
One thing I’ve noticed over the years is how more & more people seem to fetishize basic things & end up diluting terms. I think the tag system on AO3 is seriously fucked, & has seriously fucked up many aspiring writers or just plain old fanfic hobbyists.

One example is the dreaded “praise kink” tag. That tag gets used for something as innocuous as one character being happy that another character called them a nice name or something. Praise kink? And if that so called praise kink has nothing to do with the plot, why the hell is it tagged?

I think overuse of (usually ill advised) tags work as a multi-function to advertise every single thing in a story, & as a trigger/ content warning thing. You know how about ten (or maybe more) years ago, all of a sudden every damn writer on the usual fanfic sites began listing out every single goddamn sex act or emotion in the stupid tags or other description area? It’s gotten really bad in the last five years or so particularly. I think the tags have also become a kitschy place to pose for many “scene” fandom faggots. They are the edge, it’s all a kink, no matter how mundane.

These fetish terms get really overused, like “praise kink” & I can’t think of another off the top, but that shit is overused to death. It’s almost never a kink, it’s usually one instance of a pet name, or 10X in one chapter, but still not a kink. Let alone a praise kink. (WTF would that really look like any way? Mos def not what it turns out being, which is usually nothing at all or some dumb unrealistic happiness at one word that magically makes character A cream when character B says it.)

Another bad one is if you want to read about a certain character or two, & lo & behold, in 80% of the fic about them, they are just side characters with two lines of dialogue (if you’re lucky) and some usually gay male pairing (that the fujo & pooner brigades love) are the main characters. Why even tag the other characters, especially as a pairing themselves, in that story? It fucks shit up. I wish there was a tag challenge feature where a mod could clean it up jannjann, because certain whole factions of various series or IP’s & certain characters are totally fucked up by the fandom scene faggots who overtag & fuck shit up.

Good luck finding what you’re searching for on AO3, especially finding anything that’s not over saturated in weird fetish terms that often don’t apply or characters you have no interest in. The endless lists of fetishes in the tags ( that often don’t really apply) also make it seem like many of these writers are so unrealistically porn brained. Porn being all over the Internet & in such a booming frequency has had a strange effect on fanfic culture. I occasionally still delve into some old series I’ve enjoyed for ages, & sometimes will try to check out something new, & I’ve been seeing such horrifying things these last years. It also seems like some of the shitty patterns I’ve been seeing are getting worse. I’m keeping my eye out for anything absolutely ridiculous that’s thread worthy. Maybe I’ll try to find something amusing that also fits with the patterns I’ve observed & described above.
 
One example is the dreaded “praise kink” tag. That tag gets used for something as innocuous as one character being happy that another character called them a nice name or something. Praise kink? And if that so called praise kink has nothing to do with the plot, why the hell is it tagged?
I think people initially over-tagged sex stuff when the concern was that if you forgot to tag e.g. oral sex, you'd have people in comments or worse, in your Tumblr inbox, yelling at you that they weren't triggered but someone else might be. And now it's just autism and filling out boxes, or the author meant to put in more "praise kink" and still feels it deserves a note.

People who are looking for something via tags have different thresholds than people who are trying to avoid the same thing.

Hypothetically, you may appreciate an author who tagged "watersports" or whatever for one brief pee instance, and said at the beginning which chapter to skip to avoid that scene. However, a piss fetishist searching for stories would be pissed off annoyed that the same story had so very little pee in it, when they explicitly clicked the tag because they wanted pee.

I have no idea how to make tags useful for both these purposes.

Another bad one is if you want to read about a certain character or two, & lo & behold, in 80% of the fic about them, they are just side characters with two lines of dialogue (if you’re lucky)
This one, definitely. If you're interested in the butler/agent/minor functionary who's underexplored yet hinted at having depths in canon, you're going to run into thousands of stories tagged with that character because the character is just an animate piece of set dressing.

Also the Half-Life character tags are undifferentiated from the Half-Life VR But the AI is Self-Aware character tags, which has a surprisingly big fanbase. Ah, well.
 
Knowing where to draw the line when tagging is pretty difficult. I agree that character with a very minor appearance and few lines shouldn't be tagged as a character - but does that mean that only the main/central characters should be tagged at all? I don't really think so, I think that a character should be tagged even if it's a relatively small role... on the other hand, some fandoms just have ensemble tags, as in you can literally tag "(insert fandom) Ensemble" as a character, and have it cover the variety of small roles in one convenient tag without infringing on people who are specifically seeking a fic that centers around a certain character. More fandoms could really use such a tag.
Alternately, being able to segregate your character or ship tags into "main ship/character" "minor ship/character" or "background ship/character" would be very useful, but honestly I don't think people would use it correctly.
At least with ships, some people will add "mentioned" "background" "past" "one-sided" etc in parenthesis after ship tag -- so you'll still be able to see that the fic is tagged as the ship and therefore contains it, but it breaks the search term and the fic won't show up in that specific tag. I find that really useful... as long as I'm not looking for a fic that included a past or one-sided relationship. 🤔

As for tagging kinks, yeah, I think it does just come down to one part term dilution ("gets happy when praised" probably IS literally interpreted as a kink by these people) and one part making sure every possible trigger is warned for. At least the latter I can understand when it's a fic that deals with genuinely upsetting content e.g. rape or abuse, but it does end up with fics that have a huge laundry list of off-putting freak shit tags when the fic itself actually handles the topics quite sensitively. There's no way to differentiate between "this is tagged as a kink" and "this is tagged as a warning".
 
Knowing where to draw the line when tagging is pretty difficult. I agree that character with a very minor appearance and few lines shouldn't be tagged as a character - but does that mean that only the main/central characters should be tagged at all? I don't really think so, I think that a character should be tagged even if it's a relatively small role... on the other hand, some fandoms just have ensemble tags, as in you can literally tag "(insert fandom) Ensemble" as a character, and have it cover the variety of small roles in one convenient tag without infringing on people who are specifically seeking a fic that centers around a certain character. More fandoms could really use such a tag.
Alternately, being able to segregate your character or ship tags into "main ship/character" "minor ship/character" or "background ship/character" would be very useful, but honestly I don't think people would use it correctly.
At least with ships, some people will add "mentioned" "background" "past" "one-sided" etc in parenthesis after ship tag -- so you'll still be able to see that the fic is tagged as the ship and therefore contains it, but it breaks the search term and the fic won't show up in that specific tag. I find that really useful... as long as I'm not looking for a fic that included a past or one-sided relationship. 🤔

As for tagging kinks, yeah, I think it does just come down to one part term dilution ("gets happy when praised" probably IS literally interpreted as a kink by these people) and one part making sure every possible trigger is warned for. At least the latter I can understand when it's a fic that deals with genuinely upsetting content e.g. rape or abuse, but it does end up with fics that have a huge laundry list of off-putting freak shit tags when the fic itself actually handles the topics quite sensitively. There's no way to differentiate between "this is tagged as a kink" and "this is tagged as a warning".

I feel any x Readers should be tagged if it's a reader and NOT an OC of the author. You are led to believe it's a reader insert and no one calls the Author out for this enough.
 
but does that mean that only the main/central characters should be tagged at all?
I usually handle it like this: If the side character talks to my main character(s), they're getting a tag. If my character(s) just walks past them, they're not getting one. But that's really just me.

As for tagging kinks, yeah, I think it does just come down to one part term dilution
Or simply not grasping the fetish. The amount of stuff I've seen tagged as 'dacryphilia' just because someone cries during sex. It doesn't do shit for the other participant, maybe just makes them sad, but apparently crying during sex is now 'dacryphilia'.

I'm willing to bet this is because of self-esteem issues on their part.
And the lack of getting any praise irl because they just suck? Maybe because the only praise they're getting is something sex-related? I'm pulling this from my ass btw, I do not have any evidence to back this up.

I feel any x Readers should be tagged if it's a reader and NOT an OC of the author.
One of my favourite character x reader fanfics gives the reader some backstory so the whole story would even make sense to begin with. But the author mentions doing that in the first chapter so you're prepared and 'y/n' isn't just a blank slate - I feel like that's also totally fine, especially for more complex stories. Just wanting to read some short-form character x reader fanfics, but being bombarded with the author's OC sucks, though.
 
One of my favourite character x reader fanfics gives the reader some backstory so the whole story would even make sense to begin with. But the author mentions doing that in the first chapter so you're prepared and 'y/n' isn't just a blank slate - I feel like that's also totally fine, especially for more complex stories. Just wanting to read some short-form character x reader fanfics, but being bombarded with the author's OC sucks, though.

Yeah. As long as it's not giving you specific traits then I'm fine or giving them a regular name. But like people are like "But I LIKE NAMES FOR THE READER!"

You come for an X Reader Insert or an X OC? If the Author wants to simp for characters do it then.

Ironically enough I'm a canon tag on A03 so if I'm well known in RPF I got a tag. But yeah. The recent shit I saw with x OC was when it had an interesting idea then I opened it. Reader was generic white not like other girls with a generic name.

Fucking waste of time.
 
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I usually handle it like this: If the side character talks to my main character(s), they're getting a tag. If my character(s) just walks past them, they're not getting one. But that's really just me.
Personally, I determine it by wordcount and/or how many overall characters are already tagged. If it's a short fic, or the only characters with major roles in the narratives are the two involved in the main pairing (I rarely write fic without a pairing), then I'll give a character tag to anyone with dialogue. If it's a longer fic or I already have 4+ characters tagged, then a character who has less than ten or so lines won't be tagged, unless they show up in multiple scenes. There have been times when I've tagged for a "cameo" of a character using the freeform tags instead of the character tags, but a lot of the time I'll just resort to using the Ensemble tag if it exists in that fandom.
Yeah. As long as it's not giving you specific traits then I'm fine or giving them a regular name. But like people are like "But I LIKE NAMES FOR THE READER!"

You come for an X Reader Insert or an X OC? If the Author wants to simp for characters do it then.
I never read xreaders or OC/canon, I didn't even realize this was a problem.
 
AO3's tagging system would be vastly improved if they changed it so a fic would have:

Primary Relationship: X/X
Secondary Relationship(s): Y/Y, Z/Z, R/Z, Y/R
Primary Characters: X, Y, Z, R
Secondary Characters: A, B, C
Primary Tags: (Primary genre and premise stuff, like "Hurt/Comfort" "Time Travel" "Coffee Shop AU", cap it to a max of 16-20 tags)
Secondary Tags: (All the retarded tumblr tags go here, cap of like 30 tags at most)

It'd make it far easier to find stuff you want, as well as filter shit you don't care about.
 
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