UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

And this is a poster who has been thirstposting and offering zero new information to the thread. As far as I’m concerned, she is a cow and I am milking her.
friend, please click through my post history. I found the missing persons report, I've been providing sources for unsourced speculation, finding paywalled sources. You come in, see, in passing, that I pointed out some people have ridiculously high bills, and start frothing at the mouth to correcT the record. If you want to debate if insurance companies are good or not (spoiler: they're not), go make a mass debates thread.

This thread is about Luigi Mangione, and the shooting of Brian Thompson. We have all agreed insurance is bad, and now coming up with as many schizo theories as can fit in a reply box to try and get Luigi Mangione freed. Please, PLEASE just read through some of the stories in the initial pages, tap through the highlights at least. No one cares.
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Pay for treatment and get bankrupt.
2. Wait for a treatment until whatever you have is fatal.
Choosing 1 isn't a ridiculous choice, and having 1 is not even an option in shitholes like the UK. If your healthcare insurance provider is shit either switch out or sue them.
You have a third option. Go to the doctor with no ID, give them a fake name and random digits for shit like phone number and SS. Can't bill someone who doesn't exist and they can't deny care.
 
You are speaking like the concept insurance companies is unique to the USA. Every insurance company can and will fuck over payers no matter what the country is.
Which is why Europe transitioned to a government-paid healthcare, which works just fine for them.

When your choices are:
1. Pay for treatment and get bankrupt.
2. Wait for a treatment until whatever you have is fatal.
Choosing 1 isn't a ridiculous choice, and having 1 is not even an option in shitholes like the UK. If your healthcare insurance provider is shit either switch out or sue them.
Except you don't even get choice number 1. You get "pay the companies a fortune and get nothing when you need help."

You really are slow when it comes to these things. If the healthcare companies upheld their end of the deal, nobody would care if the healthcare is private or public.

Stop with the sperging of muh welfare queens and FUCKED IN THE ASS. Everything has pros and cons, and wanting some gay revolution for your homosexual space communist healthcare is absolutely retarded. Either answer on how the USA won't get fucked by the same issues plaguing other countries or shut the fuck up.
It's already getting fucked by getting ripped off by healthcare companies. Compared to that, you having to wait to get treated is like a slice of heaven in comparison. But then again, you don't care for the average American citizen, so you're the one who should shut the fuck up.
 
friend, please click through my post history. I found the missing persons report, I've been providing sources for unsourced speculation, finding paywalled sources. You come in, see, in passing, that I pointed out some people have ridiculously high bills, and start frothing at the mouth to correcT the record. If you want to debate if insurance companies are good or not (spoiler: they're not), go make a mass debates thread.

This thread is about Luigi Mangione, and the shooting of Brian Thompson. We have all agreed insurance is bad, and now coming up with as many schizo theories as can fit in a reply box to try and get Luigi Mangione freed. Please, PLEASE just read through some of the stories in the initial pages, tap through the highlights at least. No one cares.
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Still can't find a single article (even from the schizo places) on Luigi having an accomplice.

Interesting article about his notebook, though
The writings in a notebook found in Luigi Mangione's possession are helping investigators build a federal case against the alleged killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, authorities said.

"The details are finally coming together," read an entry dated August 15 in the notebook, according to a federal complaint unsealed on Thursday, CNN reported.

Mangione allegedly wrote in the book, "I'm glad - in a way - that I've procrastinated". He stated that this gave him time to learn more about the company which he was targeting -- whose name has been redacted by prosecutors.

The target is insurance' because 'it checks every box,'" read another line in the notebook, as per the complaint.

The 26-year-old Mangione appeared in a New York court on Thursday to face federal charges, including murder. This came on top of the state charges that Mangione already faces for allegedly killing Thompson on December 4 in Manhattan, including the first-degree murder as an act of terrorism.

The Manhattan District Attorney's Office said that both state and federal trials will "work in parallel". Among the new charges include murder through use of a firearm, two stalking charges as well as a firearms offense.

Karen Friedman Agnifilo, Mangione's defence attorney, has claimed that the new charges "raise serious constitutional and statutory double jeopardy concerns."

What's next?
For now, Mangione will be held in federal detention. He is next expected to face the state trial before the federal one, as per the prosecutors.

The prosecutors in Manhattan are working along with the federal authorities to schedule an arraignment for the accused on state murder charges, which may happen as soon as Monday, reported CNN. Meanwhile, the federal prosecutors may next seek an indictment from a grand jury.

It must be noted that the federal charges now introduce the possibility of the accused -- Luigi Mangione -- being sentenced to death once he is found guilty of the federal murder charge. On the other hand, the state charges carry a maximum penalty of life in prison, while there is no possibility of parole.

As of now, prosecutors have not indicated if they will be seeking the death penalty. Ultimately, this decision will be required to get approval from the US Attorney General.

 
You sound like the battered wife who insists her husband beats her because he loves her.
The insurance companies said they would change! Anyway, they wouldn’t do it if I didn’t make them angry.

2. Wait for a treatment until whatever you have is fatal.
Choosing 1 isn't a ridiculous choice, and having 1 is not even an option in shitholes like the UK.
You can get private healthcare in the UK and it’s far cheaper than the US. If your child has an sudden allergy problem, for example, you can wait months on the NHS and just hope the next bite of food doesn’t send them into anaphylactic shock if you’re a communist, or you can get it done that week privately.

The NHS used to bitch about poor aftercare if you had it done private (you technically can’t start off private and finish your care on the NHS) but given how care has plummeted they’ll often advise you to go private now.

Old people will sit around on waiting lists because they treat the NHS like the state religion but more and more people go private.

It used to be a bit of a taboo going private (for middle class fuckers who LARP as working class heroes) but most people with a bit of cash will do it now.
 
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You can get private healthcare in the UK and it’s far cheaper than the US. If your child has an sudden allergy problem, for example, you can wait months on the NHS and just hope the next bite of food doesn’t send them into anaphylactic shock if you’re a communist, or you can get it done that week privately.

The NHS used to bitch about poor aftercare if you had it done private (you technically can’t start off private and finish your care on the NHS) but given how care has plummeted they’ll often advise you to go private now.

Old people will sit around on waiting lists because they treat the NHS like the state religion but more and more people go private.

It used to be a bit of a taboo going private (for middle class fuckers who LARP as working class heroes) but most people with a bit of cash will do it now.
Not only is it not taboo, it's become a basic job benefit to have some private healthcare insurance.
I think the reason it's much cheaper than in America is because the truly horrendously expensive shit like cancer gets basically shoved to the public system. Private might pay for seeing a specialist sooner to get it diagnosed but the money for the chemo and radiation will be coming from the state.
And the NHS isn't terrible at treating cancer, once you actually have a legit diagnosis.
One thing I'll say about the American system though, due to the absolutely INSANE amount of money that's flowing through the entire messy system it also means it's the best place to do medical R&D in the world. If you have some ultra rare gigacancer or genetic disease chances are there's some speciality hospital in the US with some treatment option. Good luck paying for it though.
 
I think the reason it's much cheaper than in America is because the truly horrendously expensive shit like cancer gets basically shoved to the public system. Private might pay for seeing a specialist sooner to get it diagnosed but the money for the chemo and radiation will be coming from the state.
The NHS was also starting to send, and pay, for private care because not only done quicker but also cheaper. I remember the usual suspects kicking off about it.

Not sure if it’s still happening as I’ve not been keeping up with health policy for a while. Interestingly the party who brings more and more of the private sector into the NHS is always Labour. The Tories, who we are told will sell it off to their American pals, are terrified to.
 
The NHS was also starting to send, and pay, for private care because not only done quicker but also cheaper. I remember the usual suspects kicking off about it.
and they kept sending people abroad - we had a clinic in the nearest big city where British people were being flown in, operated on then flown home - all on the NHS dime.
 
The NHS was also starting to send, and pay, for private care because not only done quicker but also cheaper. I remember the usual suspects kicking off about it.

Not sure if it’s still happening as I’ve not been keeping up with health policy for a while. Interestingly the party who brings more and more of the private sector into the NHS is always Labour. The Tories, who we are told will sell it off to their American pals, are terrified to.
Not the thread for it anyway, but I worked in the NHS before covid and this is absolute bullshit. The privatisation that happened over the last 14 years happened under the government of the last 14 years, which was the tories. Labour previously did too, but the idea that cons aren't - bullshit.

@smallface forgot you can't edit in quotes - we should have a heartbreak emoji for this </3
 
they're all final, insured bills, except the first one. you can literally see the name of the insurance companies and how much they're paying. the fact a c-section could cost you personally $610k without insurance is disgusting.

back to actually talking about luigi mangione, you know, the point of this thread:


someone needs re-election money donations.
Mayor Eric Adams explains why he was present when Luigi Mangione arrived in New York:

“I’m not going to just allow him to come into our city. I wanted to look him in the eye and stated that you carried out this terrorist act in my city, the city that the people of New York love. I wanted to be there to show the symbolism of that.
This dickless faggot is such a worthless coward he wouldn't even do that if the dude weren't in handcuffs and unable to flip him off with both hands.
 
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