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Anyways, came across this. And I am not digging back into tumblr, but I saw one person say “I can only imagine her aborting that thang because it would get in the way of such a dangerous job.”
Yeah I saw a comment or two on Tumblr, it’s about as sane as you’d expect and if I had to suffer reading this, so must everyone else:
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Note, that the argument isn’t about choice or a difficult decision or any of the usual bullshit they peddle, it’s literally just hating children, christian rhetoric on THE ONE NATURAL ACT THAT MAKES A BABY, and the concept of a family.
 
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The implication is that the lives of gay people mean more than anyone elses. Also that Blitzo is a massive hypocrite because it's only a problem when they remind him of himself.
Part of me thinks this is just going to lead IMP to shut down because all of a sudden Blitz now believes that killing Humans is wrong, of course this an excuse for Viv and Brandon to say "Stop asking for more of what the show was set up as because they don't do assassinations anymore."
 
Part of me thinks this is just going to lead IMP to shut down because all of a sudden Blitz now believes that killing Humans is wrong, of course this an excuse for Viv and Brandon to say "Stop asking for more of what the show was set up as because they don't do assassinations anymore."
Is there even a need to shut down IMP when it doesn't even kill anyone? Did IMP even kill anyone at all in this entire season?
 
Stolitz shippers are so predictable. I did expect more folks with brains scrambled by yaoi shitting on someone who isn't a one dimensional super evil bitch telling off the gay owl, but the season finally only just came out so plenty of time for them to pop out of the woodwork.

The irony is that Octavia will keep getting hate because Vivzie didn't villanize Stella enough.

If Stella really was manipulating Via then it would be so easy to blame her but nooo, vivzie hates Stella so much she refuses to write her as a competent villain so she's just this pathethic joke character that is cackling on plain sight and ignoring her own daughter.

There is no way to rationalize Octavia's siding with Stella beyond her simply being dumb meaning she will get all the hate.

Also, i fucking hate how redditors can't even defend Octavia without defending Vivzie and circlejerking bad writing.

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>This is why vivzie doesn't give female characters complexity, cause you haters can't handle it

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I also hate how he implies "character development" = forgiving stolas. Why is he entitled to her forgiveness? Why can't Octavia never meet him again and live a happy live without him?

Millie telling just Sallie isn't that outrageous to me since it's not unusual for siblings to confide in one another when they think they've really fucked up, and they don't want to tell the people they should actually tell.

Having said that, I don't think this new baby subplot is going to go well at all.

Saw some people on twitter say "Millie told Sally and didnt tell moxie cause she is cheating on him" which is so insane it almost sounds like a shitpost.

I'll make my own crack theory and say she told Sally cause Sally is the baby's father.
 
Is there even a need to shut down IMP when it doesn't even kill anyone? Did IMP even kill anyone at all in this entire season?
IMP did kill that camp counselor, as well as killed that demon haunting a hotel and that coomer in the short if you want to count those.

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I also hate how he implies "character development" = forgiving stolas. Why is he entitled to her forgiveness? Why can't Octavia never meet him again and live a happy live without him?
The good ending for Octavia's character is that when she turns 18, she'll tell Stella off, Stolas comes back thinking this means he has another chance only to be shot down and told "No, fuck you too dad, go back to the man you almost got executed for without even saying goodbye or even thinking about me."
 
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Yeah I saw a comment or two on Tumblr, it’s about as sane as you’d expect and if I had to suffer reading this, so must everyone else:
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Note, that the argument isn’t about choice or a difficult decision or any of the usual bullshit they peddle, it’s literally just hating children and the concept of a family.
Vivziepop truly has the sanest fandom, wishing physical abuse on a teenager who was abandoned by her cheating fag of a father.
Anyways, came across this. And I am not digging back into tumblr, but I saw one person say “I can only imagine her aborting that thang because it would get in the way of such a dangerous job.”
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I really, really, REALLY don’t want to see Viv try to tackle abortion. I’m having flashbacks to what Bojack Horseman (which Viv loves) tried to do. I haven’t listened to the song, because I value my sanity, but I saw the title “Yeet That Fetus, Kill That Fetus” and felt a bit of my soul die.
Stolitz shippers are so predictable. I did expect more folks with brains scrambled by yaoi shitting on someone who isn't a one dimensional super evil bitch telling off the gay owl, but the season finale only just came out so plenty of time for them to pop out of the woodwork.
I hate these faggots, so much.

I want to beat their skulls in.
 
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The implication is that the lives of gay people mean more than anyone elses.
Forget that implication, the even worse implication I got from IMP spearing the gay couple is that they're gonna turn into "only kill those who are shit or bitchy people". Viv basically confirmed or at least hinted via that scene that we are likely never going to get an episode or even a short where IMP target a human(s) that's a completely decent person(s). She's turning them into full on Punisher-like anti-heroes now though without any of the balls.
 
Millie is sad cause she knows she's written by vivziepop meaning she'll get a Twilight preggo arc where she acts moody for the sake of drama and is pushed to the sidelines, only for Stolas and blitzo to get the single episode taking care of the baby (comedy ensues).

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actual lunacy 😵‍💫

The most abuse Stella gives Octavia is emotional neglect at best, that is the only thing I can find since she doesn't care about her daughter's feelings and is more into just laughing about how Stolas is a loser (which is based, but man be their for your daughter).

If someone competent can, they should make a Wicked/Twisted style story where Stella is actually the good guy and Stolas is the villain, would at least be more accurate with how the season played out.

Also imagine getting mad at a teenage girl for righfully being pissed that her dad abandoned her for Imp cock. Again, Stolas thought he was going to die, even the fucking owl man they're defending would agree that she deserves to hate him. Hell, he's lucky that Octavia loves him enough to not let him die, yet these losers can't even take solace in that.

Vivziepop truly has the sanest fandom, wishing physical abuse on a teenager who was abandoned by her cheating fag of a father.
Anyways, came across this. And I am not digging back into tumblr, but I saw one person say “I can only imagine her aborting that thang because it would get in the way of such a dangerous job.”
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I really, really, REALLY don’t want to see Viv try to tackle abortion. I’m having flashbacks to what Bojack Horseman (which Viv loves) tried to do. I haven’t listened to the song, because I value my sanity, but I saw the title “Yeet That Fetus, Kill That Fetus” and felt a bit of my soul die.

If Vivzie does have the abortion plot, then it will be like that one Zootopia comic.

Forget that implication, the even worse implication I got from IMP spearing the gay couple is that they're gonna turn into "only kill those who are shit or bitchy people". Viv basically confirmed or at least hinted via that scene that we are likely never going to get an episode or even a short where IMP target a human(s) that's a completely decent person(s). She's turning them into full on Punisher-like anti-heroes now though without any of the balls.
Well if the shorts are canon, Blitzo killed an autistic weeb who was too immature to not process she'd be dead and abandoned her friends/family for Hell, but its okay since she's into it.

If IMP is going to have a change of heart, they sure killed lots of innocent people in Season 1, but they were NPCs so its fine.
 
Okay, I keep seeing this referenced and thrown around all the time. What the hell is this comic about? Can someone TLDR it for me?
The fox and rabbit from Zootopia are in a relationship. The rabbit got pregnant, tells the fox, but she wants to abort it. The fox was really excited about the pregnancy but she's worried the child might kill her or be an interbreeded freak. Additionally, she wants to focus on her career. They have an argument that culminates in the rabbit slapping the fox and (I think) scratching him. The fox walks away on that relationship.

In the sequel, the fox is washed up and drunk and winds up going to the rabbit to reconcile. She left him for another predator fox-girl with a stutter. There's also this thing where she's the mayor and fakes a JFK-style assassination. The art is way too good for its content.


EDIT: Got details wrong. Fixe.d
 
The fox and rabbit from Zootopia are in a relationship. The rabbit got pregnant, tells the fox, but she wants to abort it. The fox was really excited about the pregnancy but she's worried the child might kill her or be an interbreeded freak. Additionally, she wants to focus on her career. They have an argument that culminates in the rabbit slapping the fox and (I think) scratching him. The fox walks away on that relationship.

In the sequel, the fox is washed up and drunk and winds up going to the rabbit to reconcile. She left him for another predator fox-girl with a stutter. There's also this thing where she's the mayor and fakes a JFK-style assassination. The art is way too good for its content.


EDIT: Got details wrong. Fixe.d
Jesus Christ forgive me, I should have left well enough alone. Thanks for the information though. How many fix-it fics did it spawn if any?
 
For the Stella fans, here's all the shots I could find in Octavia's song where we see Stella being both Stolas and Octavia.
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Last one is my favorite. I hope whoever the artist behind these is able to post these pictures in full shot so we can see them in their full glory.

I feel like that Stella at one point loved Stolas. But grew to realize that Stolas would and could never return said love because he's gay. So she grew bitter towards him. In some way, she probably still loves Stolas, and that's why she hates him so much. Cause he will never give her what she truly wants. (BTW, I know Viv most likely didn't intend Stella to be written this way. I'm just trying to give some reason for why Stella acts the way she does, and Viv herself is just not a competent writer to come up with this)
 
(Octavia) deserves better. She deserves better over anyone else. I know she's a 2D character but GOD she's a character that deserves more than just being cannon fodder for Stolitz.
Even Adam as a fallen angel or Sinner would be a better father figure for her than Stolas. Requires a lot of finagling, I admit, but imagine:

Octavia catches Adam digging through the trash of her home. At first she tries to confront him, then she gets sad over the bullshit her spermdonor puts her through. Adam's dad-stincts kick in and he starts to coax out of her why she's so desponent. From there on, Adam comes by on the regular so Octavia has at least someone to vent to. Helps that even the literal trash of Goetia is tastier than the shit Sinners eat.

I admit, I wanted to add a b-plot where Stella and Adam end up becoming fuck buddies because no way would Adan pass on hitting on a MILF. But tbh, that would require me to rewrite her so thoroughly, it might as well be an OC "inspired" by her.
 
I feel like that Stella at one point loved Stolas.
It does feel that she loved or at least respected him, before the affair and before all the retcons from S2 started. As far back as Loo Loo Land in S1 there was a portrait where she doesn't look angry, you could even say she looks proud or fond of him? She was getting in the way of the fujo fantasies, so naturally she had to be changed to just hate him for no reason.

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into this because Vivziepop never puts much thought into her shows.

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It does feel that she loved or at least respected him, before the affair and before all the retcons from S2 started. As far back as Loo Loo Land in S1 there was a portrait where she doesn't look angry, you could even say she looks proud or fond of him? She was getting in the way of the fujo fantasies, so naturally she had to be changed to just hate him for no reason.

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into this because Vivziepop never puts much thought into her shows.

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I still think the funniest bullshit with the retcons is how it gets treated like the earlier stuff "was never canon" when that's a fucking lie I've said thatbefore with this shit I'm gonna keep saying it. THEY CALL BACK TO SHIT JUST BECAUSE YOU ACTLIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED OUTSIDE THE SHOW NOW IT FUCKING CLEARLY DID. IT'S NOT EVEN AN "UNRELIABLE NARRATOR" THING!
 
So is the point that breaking up your family is fine for a gay relationship? This is really heavy handed writing, the parallel to Stolas & Blitzø is clear. Guess all women are shit outta luck if their husbands turns out to be fags because then, every shit thing the husband could possibly do to her is justified because male homo sex fetish audience wants the boys together forever. Fuck off with this bullshit.

I lost interest at the faggot Christmas scene. I’m not a dedicated watcher of this show, haven’t seen all the episodes, but this came up on my youtube today, tried watching it, the animation was pretty good & the story was shit, just like every other time I’ve tried watching this show. The difference is that I actually turned the episode off & didn’t finish it because it was that bad of a choice. Not sure I’ll try watching this shitty “faggots can’t ever be wrong” propaganda show again. Truly a writing don’t.
 
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