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quaawaa said:
It’s still one person, one vote. You just can’t vote unless you own land and are a citizen. It doesn’t matter if you have a quarter acre or a million acres, you still only get one vote.
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Until you and your buddies buy out all the land so instead of 80 million people voting its just 80 people voting, all of whom agree with you.
 
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"No it is YOU that is the leech" is a hell of a way of outing yourself. Never made claims of anyone here, other than calling them retarded and dumb. Landowners voting and only landowners voting was a nearly perfect system.

Current problems need to be fixed, of course, but going back to that would be pretty simple really. banning outsiders from buying land in the US would be an easy start to that.
 
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Sekirodiealot said:
Holy hell i missed a lot. Anything new going on? More p2025 fear mongering lately?
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Biden pardon commuted death penalties to pretty much everyone on death row for federal crimes. Except for Dylan Roof, one of the boston marathon bombers, and some dude who shot up a mosque.
 
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Melee Bouquet said:
That's the truth and it's also why NRx/Dark Enlightenment and other forms of pie-in-the-sky min-maxing sperg outs about forms of government are so aggravating to me now. These impossible conditionals make any legal action seem like a waste of time, sticking people on an endless mental circuit of theorizing and discussion rather than real world action. I need things I can do NOW without getting thrown in jail.
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Get lots of money and take advantage of the general spinelessness of politicians by lobbying them constantly? That's not an exactly easy path to go down per say but it is one that can be done in a lawful manner and potentially get actual results.
 
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Sammich said:
"No it is YOU that is the leech" is a hell of a way of outing yourself. Never made claims of anyone here, other than calling them retarded and dumb. Landowners voting and only landowners voting was a nearly perfect system.

Current problems need to be fixed, of course, but going back to that would be pretty simple really. banning outsiders from buying land in the US would be an easy start to that.
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Just ban any government program that directly allocates cash to individuals. Food stamps get replaced with a food bank and bread line. Subsidies, grants, and reimbursement programs to individuals banned. If the government MUST provide a service, it must actually provide the service, not subcontract to other entities. I want every single one to be the most awful, humiliating, and threadbare process possible.

Take out the ability for the voter to vote taxpayer money into their pockets unequally, and you'll blunt a lot of the damage. Take out the ability for the NGO to petition taxpayer money into their pockets. When the vote becomes about policies and not personal finance, you've unfucked a lot of the problem of the franchise as it exists today.

Perfect? No, but I'd rather see people turn to local food banks when the government can't pull their thumb out of their ass and finding 'problem' people kicked out, than have gibsmedats making life unlivable and billing us for the privilege.
 
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The Ugly One said:
  1. Post FBI crime statistics
  2. Write autistic theory that nobody will read
  3. Elaborate your plan to reform government that nobody will ever enact
  4. Own the libs on Xitter
  5. Post spicy memes in the Funny Pictures Thread
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Absolutely awful list.

Where's the corollary to 4 that mentions them running to Bluesky and then trolling them there?

You're slipping, Tuco!
 
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Melee Bouquet said:
That's the truth and it's also why NRx/Dark Enlightenment and other forms of pie-in-the-sky min-maxing sperg outs about forms of government are so aggravating to me now. These impossible conditionals make any legal action seem like a waste of time, sticking people on an endless mental circuit of theorizing and discussion rather than real world action. I need things I can do NOW without getting thrown in jail.
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What is it you even want to change?
 
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Conan said:
Drive out of L.A. county into San Bernadino or Kern and you'd swear you were in Texas. Nobody hates LAfags like the Based Desert Dwellers.
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Reminds me of the idiots who tried to rob a liquor store in Norco and got their fucking arm blown off with a shotgun. You'd think people would learn not to rob shit in Norco after that bank robbery back in 1980.

Regarding all the votesperging. If you really want to fix it all you need to do is take No Taxation Without Representation literally. As in you don't vote, ok you don't have to pay taxes. The benefits of this are obvious.
1: The people who shouldn't be voting won't be voting
2: Gives you defacto voter ID law by requiring people show they filed taxes to vote
3: Incentivises the government to put forth plans people actually want so they feel compelled to pay taxes to vote
4: Gives people the ability to basically dissolve the government by simply not voting, denying them any funding
 
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Sammich said:
No, it is not.
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Yes it is.
not william stenchever said:
Requiring that one has to be a net positive taxpayer for eligibility to vote would be a compromise that I'm okay with.
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That's cool until the people who can't vote now have a rallying point for which to gather around to plot to kill you.
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Landowners voting and only landowners voting was a nearly perfect system.
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It was good but specifically for the time period in which it was instated. If you do that now you'll get people much more competent than a pilled-up kid attempting to kinetically veto your political candidates.
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I need things I can do NOW without getting thrown in jail.
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Improve your life. If you don't like that answer then get involved in political organizing, it's not like they're ever disinterested in genuine, die-hard believers of change lending a helping hand.
 
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LurkTrawl said:
That's cool until the people who can't vote now have a rallying point for which to gather around to plot to kill you.
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"You" being the person who has bought into society and pays taxes or "you" being a politician? If it's the politician I would consider that an incentive structure to create conditions where we end up with the maximal amount of net positive taxpayers.
 
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