Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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so, uh, one of my old university friends has taken my name as their "new" name.

This is extremely gross, and in a perfect world everybody would tell him to piss off and YWNBAW. Troons get off on violating social boundaries and common decorum.

Maybe change your WhatsApp handle to "name(XX bio woman)". Or send your husband Luigi to straighten the tranny out.
 
I'd personally get the fuck away from this person, and if your friends don't, get away from them, too.
Although these people are same-age, we do have to remember that most people aren't terminally online studied in troon behavior patterns like we are.

Maybe the way to start is like it's a joke, because the troon does know troon stereotypes. "You know, when transwomen take the names of girls they went to school with, it's girls they're no longer in contact with. Any of your female classmates in junior high give you a warm feeling, like you want to be them maybe?"

"You sure you don't want to try out Lilith for a bit? Alice?"

"It's almost Christmas; how 'bout I gift you a month subscription to CrunchyRoll and you find someone fictional who gives you the warm fuzzies?"
 
Although these people are same-age, we do have to remember that most people aren't terminally online studied in troon behavior patterns like we are.

Maybe the way to start is like it's a joke, because the troon does know troon stereotypes. "You know, when transwomen take the names of girls they went to school with, it's girls they're no longer in contact with. Any of your female classmates in junior high give you a warm feeling, like you want to be them maybe?"

"You sure you don't want to try out Lilith for a bit? Alice?"

"It's almost Christmas; how 'bout I gift you a month subscription to CrunchyRoll and you find someone fictional who gives you the warm fuzzies?"

I would recommend against this. The troon would probably like nothing more than to entangle a woman into his weird roleplay, emotional manipulation, and multilayered agendas about made up bullshit. I don't know this, but this would be my assumption.
 
Maybe the way to start is like it's a joke, because the troon does know troon stereotypes.
I wouldn't couch it. I'd be straight on. If a person might be inclined not to cut off this person right away, say it flat out: I don't like that you did this. It concerns me that you did, and frankly, I think it's rather strange and it crosses a boundary that I'm not comfortable with. It's my name. It's my identity, and if you care so much about having your identity respected, you should be able to empathize with me and respect that for me.

Maybe it's because I remember another movie that it reminds me of: Single White Female. Sure I've cited movies, but good performances have an element of truth.

I mean, okay, if you want an honest-to-goodness example of appropriating an identity in an unhealthy way, we can go straight to Ed Gein.

All I know is that I've encountered enough creeps and people with unhealthy boundaries in my life that this one sets off my alarm bells, and I wouldn't joke about it.
 
I wouldn't couch it. I'd be straight on. If a person might be inclined not to cut off this person right away, say it flat out: I don't like that you did this. It concerns me that you did, and frankly, I think it's rather strange and it crosses a boundary that I'm not comfortable with. It's my name. It's my identity, and if you care so much about having your identity respected, you should be able to empathize with me and respect that for me.

Maybe it's because I remember another movie that it reminds me of: Single White Female. Sure I've cited movies, but good performances have an element of truth.

I mean, okay, if you want an honest-to-goodness example of appropriating an identity in an unhealthy way, we can go straight to Ed Gein.

All I know is that I've encountered enough creeps and people with unhealthy boundaries in my life that this one sets off my alarm bells, and I wouldn't joke about it.
Yeah definitely do not joke about this. Do not make light, do not minimize. Do not allow the people around you the "out" of playing it off as a funny haha little awk-awk misunderstanding.

Put down a dead serious boundary that this shit is creepy and unacceptable. Stand firmly by it. Anyone who does not stand with you can fuck all the way off to hell.
 
Alright, my friend who trooned out got the chop in late November. I asked him for a pic because we’re really good friends and I was curious, judge me all you like; I don’t care. He replied matter of factly that he knows many of us in the friend group are curious and he’s sent a pic to all of us who have politely requested it so I was apparently not the first.I won’t be sharing the picture here because the pic was sent in confidence and while I don’t respect his life choices I am not going to violate his privacy. However, I will describe it. it pretty much looks like the more successful amholes. No clitoral structure, somewhat oddly boxy around the ballsack area, very uncanny valley. Enough structure is exposed between the sack flaps while closed that it does not pass for female anatomy with small inner labia with legs closed. but it is among the better results I’ve seen. I did not ask for or receive a picture of whatever structure would be equivalent to the vulvar vestibule - for those of you not acquainted with the vernacular, no legs spread pic.

So, to be frank, while I don’t support his decision, I am relieved for him. I’ve been shitting up Kiwifarms dunking on trannies and powerleveling about all the ones I know IRL due to profession and personal interests that largely appeal to autists of both sexes since the mid 2010s on now deleted or lost accounts. I hate AGPs so fucking much. My ex is is a disgusting AGP troon. My dear friend from college is a trans widow. My college temp flatmate was an AGP freak who thought he was a cat vampire thing and would prowl around the apartment hissing and slept with his door open. And to be honest with you guys on top of getting peaked IRL nonstop, I’m also getting pretty fucking tired of regular gay men shitting on women yet coveting them (drag etc) all the time too but that’s for the Kiwifarms man hate thread.

Anyways, to be rather patronizing, this guy who just got his amhole installed is just this sad black fatherless twink with an abusive mom, who persevered through a lifetime of losing all his friends far too young to crack, gangs, and DUIs. He’s such a nice guy and genuinely fun to talk to. And when he wants to very occasionally request to me that I sperg to him about hair and nails it’s genuinely interesting and he takes my advice and applies it really well. When people misgender him it’s like water off a ducks ass, he doesn’t care. It feels so different to the AGP cosplay we see all the time. I am so sad for him that he decided to forego his limited virility in favor of a lifetime of surgery sites, dilating, and disappointment. “I hope you’re happy, now that you’re choosing… this” sums it up perfectly.

Feel free to dunk on me for handmaidening this guy and for all of the hypocrisy. Curious if any of you have had a similar experience.
 
Feel free to dunk on me for handmaidening this guy
I don't think so. Not that I'm any speaker for the farms, but you aren't going "let this dude into the girls locker room". You just oddly have either run into someone who hasn't gone full terrible troon yet, or even more oddly - a quasi sane tranny. The latter exist, they're rare but it does happen. I don't believe in "real" transgenderism existing. And I hate troons. But even I would say there's a big difference between tolerating someone who isn't being an abusive ass, and handmaid behavior.

Honestly it's a shame because it sounds like you have a vulnerably lonely twink who has no community except the cult.

I've never met a troon like that, but I have known a couple of gay men that otherwise meet the description. They tend to fall into bad relationships and drama without really meaning to or starting it usually in my limited view.
 
Feel free to dunk on me for handmaidening this guy and for all of the hypocrisy. Curious if any of you have had a similar experience.
I would draw a line at referring to him as a woman, IMO, and if I knew he was using the women's facilities I wouldn't cosign it and would stop being friends if he did. But I wouldn't mind humoring a traumatized twink in talks about nails, makeup, or fashion if that's how your friendship is. Human relationships can be complicated and if he's a friend you're not actively encouraging and he's doing this independent of your influence than I don't really see it as hypocritical necessarily. There are a lot of peaked kiwis that have family, past lovers, and friends on the troon train, it's part of why we're peaked.
 
I would draw a line at referring to him as a woman, IMO, and if I knew he was using the women's facilities I wouldn't cosign it and would stop being friends if he did. But I wouldn't mind humoring a traumatized twink in talks about nails, makeup, or fashion if that's how your friendship is. Human relationships can be complicated and if he's a friend you're not actively encouraging and he's doing this independent of your influence than I don't really see it as hypocritical necessarily. There are a lot of peaked kiwis that have family, past lovers, and friends on the troon train, it's part of why we're peaked.
Yeah, we all avoid gendering him as much as possible, its like a quiet pact lol.

I think he's one of those sad cases where he experienced a genuinely traumatic childhood and later ended up with an abusive now-ex spouse, then turned to trannyhood after the divorce as an escape/solace/cope. And it isn't like he dumps histrionics on us or plays woe-is-me, this is all info gleaned from a decade of context clues and eventually a court battle that really laid his sorry life bare. It is truly a shame that transition was the band-aid they slapped on his many deep wounds.

I suspect he uses women's bathrooms but I avoid discussing his gender as much as reasonably possible aside from when my morbid curiosity led me to pry about the healing dick inversion. Typically we'll discuss all topics including female-coded hobbies as I would with any friend without discussing anything gender related at all. He is under the impression he passes all the time but I suspect he passes to a majority of the population most of the time (racial ambiguity and slight stature helps a great deal) and passes-as-trans to the rest.

As an aside, one of my minor hobbies is peak transing him and he hates most other trannies so gd much its hilarious. He avoids all the online groups aside from, according to him, strictly informational stuff. Which may be why he is so benign to me. He sends me pics of gigahons from the few groups he is in to laugh at. I also coach him on preserving women (actual women's) rights but he skirts that topic about as dexterously as I skirt his troonery (eg womens spaces, womens sports, using actual sexed language in medical settings). He also reported that his doctors frequently note that he is among, if not the best-prepared and most-organized of all their clients; normally I would dismiss this as typical male hubris but in this singular case I actually believe it. Maybe its the lack of AGP. Professor Ray Blanchard's protegees should do a case study on him.
 
Feel free to dunk on me for handmaidening this guy and for all of the hypocrisy. Curious if any of you have had a similar experience.
I can’t dunk on you as people in glass houses shouldn’t through stones. Like I have said before, I’m a live and live liberal/lolbertarian type and I would indulge what I thought were the harmless ones. I’m not sure what the male form of a handmaiden is but I was that.

Then their behaviour would get worse and I realised I was just approaching a false peak and there was still a long way to go.

Terf Mountain is a tiring yet rewarding climb, but the views are horrendous.
 
It's also creepy as fuck. If you aren't worried about this person trying to take your life from you now, you should be. They may not try and kill you, but this is a fucking weird violation of boundaries. It isn't cute. It might have been somewhat of a compliment if he said he admired you and wanted to pay you tribute, but even then, that's for naming a kid, not oneself.

All the names this person could choose, and they just happen to want yours? It gives me the feeling of Rebecca DeMornay in "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle".

I'd personally get the fuck away from this person, and if your friends don't, get away from them, too
I 100% agree.
Imagine how fucken insane and creepy it would be if an actual female member of your friend group changed her name to yours!
Everyone would be able to see it.
so why can't they see how much worse this is?
 
To be more precise, they aren't normal men. This whole mess started when we stopped acknowledging that. They are abnormal- bent, warped, perverse, malfunctioning, however you want to put it.
 

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To be more precise, they aren't normal men. This whole mess started when we stopped acknowledging that. They are abnormal- bent, warped, perverse, malfunctioning, however you want to put it.
Exactly. Women can hate on men, fine, but then putting fags into the same category as normal men is both wrong and offensive. Normal men don't behave the way fags do.
 
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Anyway, survived Christmas with the Family Troon. He actually arrived on time, which was a surprise. Not sure if he rode with someone or what, doesn't matter much. Fairly uneventful; had food, opened presents, hung out a bit, the usual holiday stuff.

One bit of cringe politisperging at mealtime, nothing too heinous or disruptive, though. (He's a commie of some sort, naturally, and a climate catastrophist.) Expressed concerns over career options. Also admitted to being very stressed out for "the past so-and-so weeks" (since the election) and was basically told to shut up and eat his food to calm himself down, lol. He did get sad over his narc grandmother deadnaming and using his correct biological sex pronoun, but that was a shutting down and sulking thing, not a loud freakout thing.

I am in the privileged position of being able to watch his antics from a moderate distance most of the time, but I do feel bad for his immediate family. None of his siblings are really down with the tranny thing, but they've adopted the normie tactic of trying to lay low and avoid giving him an excuse to make a stink over slights. Instead of confronting his troonery, they enable or tolerate it for the sake of peace. I do feel really awful for his mom; while most of the group was over starting on presents, I got to listen in on the grandma deadnaming thing and watch as people tried to comfort him, "Oh, she's old, she just doesn't get it," et cetera, and him walking away in a sulk over it. The look on his mom's face, man... She hates the troon thing, but I don't know that she's ready to let him know how she really feels.

He's her son, after all, and I think she's afraid of pushing him away and losing him. We all know he's a miserable person, but that emotional connection is still there.

Not sure if or when things will come to a head, but he damn sure needs a good hard smack over how much emotional pain he's putting his mom through.
 
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