Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

[Hellwalker]

Jesus christ. Again with this topic? How many fucking times do we need somebody to say that the Internet is shit? So glad that we have another video that's just another spec of dust in a sea of other shitty videos where viewers jump in and come out with no new information compared to what they already know. And good job for posting this video to Youtube. A centralized service. Why can't these people actually take action? Like no shit the Internet isn't gonna be fun if you stick to the bubble that you have gotten used to and decide to do nothing about while it just casually takes over with all the trash that you hate while you stick with it for some reason.

 

[Mr. 0]

the Internet is shit

Also I think a lot of people would be satisfied with a Linktree collecting all their centralized platform crap because it cuts down on the amount of work they'd have to do otherwise in making their own website and doing shit with it

 

[jray4559]

Pretty much just blaming "MUH COROPORATIONZ MANIPULATING US HURR DURR" yet again like a Reddit retard is completely nonsensical and might as well just be a waste of air.
The real, honest answer is
1. You grew up and are not as easily impressed by simpler, easily creatable fun stuff
2. More terminally-online people talking in less and less different places due to the Walmartifying of the internet = lack of diversity of thought (ie, no one creates uniquely anymore, the thumbnail of this video is a good Exhibit A for this)
3. General fucking laziness of the average sub-25 year old internet user. If you get the same praise with low-effort references and fandoming why bother actually creating something substantial?
-and top it all off with no one even wanting to relax and immerse themselves in something these days because society is a bitch right now and making it hard to have a break.

At the end of the day a company running a video service or forum or casual snippet place is just a hosting platform. We (all of us) chose to satisfy ourselves with the poisoned kool-aid, taking the easy route instead of actually rewarding content that makes us think or is unique. We are responsible for our own unhappiness, and it is up to us to break the fucking heroin addiction that is how the modern internet feels. We must choose not to reward the obvious and force ourselves out of our bad patterns. Whining and complaining though, is much easier. Probably why he (and I too, on this forum no less) have chosen it.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

That was TLS certificate for onion mirror which is only there because Null was too lazy to fix something in Xenforo that was being hardcoded to HTTPS.

It was because he was sending HSTS headers to Tor users.

 

[Kane Lives]

Here's something that's been pissing me off more than usual lately. Websites that load 90% of the way, pause, then load in the last few elements. But because everything is Responsive, those last elements rearrange the entire page. And they do it, almost without fail, just as I'm clicking on something.

I know it's not a new gripe, but it seems to be getting worse lately. Probably because everything is made with piece of shit Electron and every "app" is actually just a website but slowed down to nigh unusability because Pajeet has a hard time coding in something that isn't JavaScript.

I wonder if it would be possible to create some sort of standard where the first thing that loads is the position and size of every element, so that as pages load they just pop in where they belong instead of this devil's Lego bullshit.

Fucking JS has been a cancer on everything it touches. Why does this shitty webpage need five whole minutes to load? Nobody knows and the ones coding this shit sure doesn't and probably used some shitty node library or something.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Jesus christ. Again with this topic? How many fucking times do we need somebody to say that the Internet is shit? So glad that we have another video that's just another spec of dust in a sea of other shitty videos where viewers jump in and come out with no new information compared to what they already know. And good job for posting this video to Youtube. A centralized service. Why can't these people actually take action? Like no shit the Internet isn't gonna be fun if you stick to the bubble that you have gotten used to and decide to do nothing about while it just casually takes over with all the trash that you hate while you stick with it for some reason.

The worst part about it is that you will be seeing more of these videos in 20 years time.

 

[Megaton Punch]

Fucking JS has been a cancer on everything it touches. Why does this shitty webpage need five whole minutes to load? Nobody knows and the ones coding this shit sure doesn't and probably used some shitty node library or something.

That's a good point. Most websites these days are basically just mini programs where the http request barely loads anything but JavaScript, which then loads the actual website. This would make my idea of preloading the structure impossible.

The death of JS cannot possibly come soon enough.

 

[Punished Magician]

Here's something that's been pissing me off more than usual lately. Websites that load 90% of the way, pause, then load in the last few elements. But because everything is Responsive, those last elements rearrange the entire page. And they do it, almost without fail, just as I'm clicking on something.

>because of this I accidentally click the wrong thing and it takes me to a new page
>press back, to get back to my old page
>it's loading again
>makes me click the wrong thing again and takes me to a new page
Somebody has to die over this. It's the only way to make things right.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Imagine someone following you around and learning every single thing about you, to the point where they know more about you than you do, the things you've forgotten about they've remembered.

I heard there was some project to make archives of peoples' lives, but that project was abandoned by the time "Facebook" went public.

Either way, I'm glad I never signed up for any "social media" site. Like "MySpace", FB going big was this new and annoying fad to me.

 

[Clueless]

Here's something that's been pissing me off more than usual lately. Websites that load 90% of the way, pause, then load in the last few elements. But because everything is Responsive, those last elements rearrange the entire page. And they do it, almost without fail, just as I'm clicking on something.

I know it's not a new gripe, but it seems to be getting worse lately. Probably because everything is made with piece of shit Electron and every "app" is actually just a website but slowed down to nigh unusability because Pajeet has a hard time coding in something that isn't JavaScript.

I wonder if it would be possible to create some sort of standard where the first thing that loads is the position and size of every element, so that as pages load they just pop in where they belong instead of this devil's Lego bullshit.

they will put transitions and/or animations in damn near every single rule in the stylesheet.

 

[Big Fish]

they will put transitions and/or animations in damn near every single rule in the stylesheet.

That's why I prefer using old versions of websites whenever I can – old yet reliable and usable design that navigates both on PC and mobiles, as opposed to smartphonified soydevism-infested minimalist crap.

 

[GNU Abyss]

Fucking JS has been a cancer on everything it touches. Why does this shitty webpage need five whole minutes to load? Nobody knows and the ones coding this shit sure doesn't and probably used some shitty node library or something.

I'd promote that to tracking in general. Outside of completely incompetent webshittery, the best performance upgrade you get when browsing the web is blocking all JS related to trackers. Shitty, obfuscated black boxes that scrape every crevice of your browser for data to give retarded sales people "analytics". Don't forget tracking what you hover over and all that other shit for "UX". Do that in any other language and it's just as horrific, total telemetry death.

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

I heard there was some project to make archives of peoples' lives, but that project was abandoned by the time "Facebook" went public.

Either way, I'm glad I never signed up for any "social media" site. Like "MySpace", FB going big was this new and annoying fad to me.

I got rid of facebook, twitter, and snapchat in 2021. One of the best decisions i made in recent years. Only social media i use is Discord but only for a few of us from a defunct message board and another with some personal contacts. Unless we consider message boards to be social media.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Actually, on the topic of JS and other nonsense - how many practical applications are there that actually require "Browser OS" with background JS threads running constantly and an open two-way connection to a remote server the whole time? (Let's leave out pathological examples like "I programmed an entire goddamn game using HTML5 as the rendering engine")

The only one I can think of offhand is video players where the video is served up in chunks as an M3U8 list, so there's always some worker thread fetching new chunks and so on.

 

[crowabunga]

>because of this I accidentally click the wrong thing and it takes me to a new page
>press back, to get back to my old page
>it's loading again
>makes me click the wrong thing again and takes me to a new page
Somebody has to die over this. It's the only way to make things right.

Weather Underground (the weather service, not the activist group) used to be a nice, efficient site that was Javascript-lite. Then they got acquired by The Weather Company and it all went to shit: they stopped supporting their lightweight interface and forced all their users onto bloated, Javascript-heavy trash: visiting them nowadays lights up my Ublock and Noscript extensions like a signal fire.

So instead, I use weather.gov for everything. They do use some Google services, but other than that Ublock and Noscript don't have conniptions and the pages load quick: page elements don't shift, jump, or lag, and there's no whacky animations, just a few dropdown menus and a forecast search section that can populate a list of suggested locations. God bless the National Weather Service.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Unless we consider message boards to be social media.

nah

 

[teriyakiburns]

Unless we consider message boards to be social media.

Message boards and the like tend to get lumped in with other social media (and sometimes even usenet and old BBSs), but by the strict definition they aren't. Social media is software the primary purpose of which is to allow users to create and share content, or to network with other users in a tangible way. A forum only technically fits that definition, if you squint really hard.

 

[Jang Joo]

Fuck Cloudfare. The number of websites that refuse to load on Firefox because of their faggot reCANCER is going up exponentially, they're an enemy of the people and the free internet.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Fuck Cloudfare.

The Infosphere site is "Cloudflare'd" now, which is lame.

(Best Futurama wiki is down leaving only the Fandom one.)

Are there really any sites -- other than KF -- that don't run on "Cloudflare"? It really does look like they got a monoply going now.

Seems any site running on "Cloudflare" can go down any time as "imminent threat to human life", or with those BS "Cloudflare" errors.

 

[Yaks]

Are there any search engines that haven't gone to utter shit? In the last few months I've been getting more and more AI generated website slop, most with the same fucking website layout so I can at least identify them, for literally every topic I look up. I used to get better results on DuckDuckGo but they've been overtaken. Yandex is okay, great especially for image lookups, but a lot of Russian shit that's useless to me.