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[WelperHelper99]

Did Trump himself come up with the Greenland idea, or was it an existing talking point in MAGA circles?

He tried buying it in his first term, and the US used it as a military base during the Cold War

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I think our current crop of boomers have fantasized the way we rebuilt Japan and Germany post ww2 and believe they can make that model work for any country.

Nope, You can't siphon money from the Taxpayers for years if you go in, Kick peoples shit in and leave that is the sole reason for our retarded war strategy for the past 50 years.

 

[Breadbassket]

Did Trump himself come up with the Greenland idea, or was it an existing talking point in MAGA circles?

It's something Trump wants and has brought up since 2019. Personally I couldn't find any older articles that could lead one to believe otherwise.

The United States since the 19th century has made several efforts to buy the island but it has always fallen through. The recent interest in acquiring it outright though is something new. Most of the time the American government has been content to just persuade the Danish to let them put bases on it.

 

[X Prime]

Not only should the US annex Greenland, but the conquered area should also be renamed to Greater Britain.

 

[The Ugly One]

How many men did the taliban have? They seem to have won in the end.

"Waiting until the enemy leaves our land" only works when you actually live there. Check the distance between Copenhagen and Greenland some time.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Russia gets Europe.

Oh no now Russia has the useless Islamic caliphate of Europe? Who gives a shit. Europeans are faggots who cry about how Americans are so violent and racist and own too many guns but then want to cry when we finally threaten to fuck off? Eastern euros are cool as long as they refuse to open their borders and allow tranny shit maybe we can make a better deal with them and leave the west to their retarded globalist tyrants

Europeans should stop being ingrates if they want any American sympathy, money, or arms. Trump made it clear to them they had to stop buying Russian gas and the eurofags laughed at him if you remember so maybe stop crying and blaming america and trump for everything wrong in the world and look inward as to why millions of people in America got sick of eurofags biting the hand that feeds and voted for the guy who promises to get us outta there if they can’t show us some damn respect and gratitude

 

[ZMOT]

That won’t be the only pearl necklace she wears tonight. Nancy Mace has awoken something primal in me.

that made me laugh harder than it should have, well played.

Now is the perfect time for Trump to strike. Justin Trudeau is such a pussy he'd surrender Canada to Trump immediately.

"if you resist they'll win!"

All kidding aside, besides the memes why exactly do we want Greenland?

to make a better "new green deal" than biden.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I think you'll pick and choose whatever the founders believed to suit your own beliefs. The founders aren't a monolith, in any case. It's not really according to them. It's according to you, but vaguely referencing some national mythology around the founders. And, for what its worth, I don't think Washington or Jefferson would be nearly as impressed with the current system as you seem to be.

They built the country. They left us their constitution in how the country is supposed to operate. This is their grand design. It has lasted through a civil war, two world wars, and numerous others with this system. You don't break a masterpiece that can never be replaced.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

If we let the Euros fend for themselves, there would be nuclear war within a week. They know it. We know it. We will take greenland if Trump is serious and not shitposting. Panama canal is rightfully ours, we built that fucker and operated it for decades

Europe fought constant wars forever. Then we took them over and they haven't had a war in decades; but the US is the problem.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Europe fought constant wars forever. Then we took them over and they haven't had a war in decades; but the US is the problem.

Europeans are bloodthirsty savages that can't get over perceived slights. They all look the same, they're all white. Yet they yearn to kill eachother. The US is the greatest force for peace in Europe, any tard fights that start are ended quickly and contained to their respective thunderdomes due to US nuclear force. Ukraine could have been FAR worse, the fighting is at least contained to the tard box

 

[TonySopranoFan57]

Oh no now Russia has the useless Islamic caliphate of Europe? Who gives a shit. Europeans are faggots who cry about how Americans are so violent and racist and own too many guns but then want to cry when we finally threaten to fuck off? Eastern euros are cool as long as they refuse to open their borders and allow tranny shit maybe we can make a better deal with them and leave the west to their retarded globalist tyrants

Europeans should stop being ingrates if they want any American sympathy, money, or arms. Trump made it clear to them they had to stop buying Russian gas and the eurofags laughed at him if you remember so maybe stop crying and blaming america and trump for everything wrong in the world and look inward as to why millions of people in America got sick of eurofags biting the hand that feeds and voted for the guy who promises to get us outta there if they can’t show us some damn respect and gratitude

I'd be fine with donating trillions to Europe if they would go full genocide on anyone darker than your average wop swarthy ass niggas be looking gross and are an affront to my eyes

 

[not william stenchever]

If we let the Euros fend for themselves, there would be nuclear war within a week. They know it. We know it. We will take greenland if Trump is serious and not shitposting. Panama canal is rightfully ours, we built that fucker and operated it for decades

The Frontlines series of scifi books has it right. The Euros will always be a third rate power that has to beg to even get a seat at the table when it comes to dealing with hostile alien invasion. The closest they get to relevant after the ayys show up is having a fancy recon car to deploy onto Mars while the North American Coalition and the power bloc composed of the Russians, Chinese, and Norks provide all the manpower.

Edit: NAC has the mostest and bestest space boats btw.

 

[FieldPiece]

Not only should the US annex Greenland, but the conquered area should also be renamed to Greater Britain.

We should name if the Zed Ecks Britain.

Alternative titles include:
The Horse Hid Behind The Hideous House Holding Hatchets.
Release Ongezellig you dirty yurpoors and you get it back.
Hitler Did Nothing Wrong (This makes it so yuropoors can't talk about greenland. Just form some gay Greenland NGO and claim it's the original name before filthy whitoids colonized it)
Tupac Is Alive and Lives Here

 

[tehpope]

What the...

 

[General Emílio Médici]

If we let the Euros fend for themselves, there would be nuclear war within a week. They know it. We know it.

Europe fought constant wars forever. Then we took them over and they haven't had a war in decades; but the US is the problem.

Europeans are bloodthirsty savages that can't get over perceived slights.

Rare based Dark Brandon

 

[WelperHelper99]

Rare based Dark Brandon

Back when Biden still had his brain. He was still a retard back then, but damn, he was right

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

OK, I'll humour the idea and play it out.

Let's say Trump takes the panama canal, greenland and exits Nato, leaving poor old Europe defencelesss.
Let's say that the ruskies roll tanks all the way to portugal and sail their ships up the Thames.
You dipshits have sanctioned Russia, so no buying from USSR 2, even worse, no selling. Europe gets cheap gas from the russian Motherland, which means no more money from LNG and oil going to Europe.
No more selling chink shit with an apple or Microsoft stamp on it to Europe.

You get Greenland, a canal nobody needs to use now and save a few quid in funding. Russia gets Europe.

GG, you've played yourself.

The Europeans would be better off under Russian rule.

 

[UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid]

Trump's obsession with Greenland.

You could correctly put Trump in the category of historical men who seek glory; to have there deeds prominently recorded in history books; the leave a permanent legacy.

Even before 2016 the history of America would contain mentions of Trump. Prominent figure in NYC; highly visible billionaire; always among notable people recording reactions to historical events.
After 2016 he will obviously be recorded as a President. But, will he fade from memory, be denigrated, or will he be known for great changes.

I believe Trump's worldview is one of liveliness, prosperity, and advancement. I also believe that a great many "Old Money" world elites do not share his worldview. They retain their power through keeping the reigns tight and guiding the world where they demand. They want the plebs to use less energy and not defile nature. Not because they they think Global Warming™ will destroy the planet and they love endangered species. It is because the world is the "King's Forest" and the dirty peasants should go live in their squalid urban hives, out of site.

Greenland is 80% above the arctic circle and glaciers cover 80% of Greenland's surface. It is inhospitable to humans.

The arctic circle has had much less resource extraction than other parts of the world. There may be 50 billion barrels of oil within Greenland's territory. That is more than the current proven oil reserves in all of the USA. 50 billion barrels would put Greenland in the top 10 countries of the world if the oil was proven (and not just an evaluated appraisal).

Greenland also has almost every other kind of mineral wealth. Copper, silver, gold, platinum, diamonds, precious gems, rare earth minerals, etc. Oh! It likely has a shitload of lithium.

So, why isn't Denmark extracting all this? Because the "Old Money" elites don't want to. Europe's elites are basically a pile of evil Necromantic Lichs who hate normal humans. Extracting resources from the Earth is permanently taking from the "King's Forest" and giving it to peasants to make their cities, festivals, and lives better. Lichs hate that.

How would Trump acquire Greenland? "Carrots" and "Sticks" like any other deal. Trump could give Denmark something in exchange like money, or make Denmark suffer with tariffs, sanctions, ect.

Trump is good at deal making. As a hypothetical, imagine if Trump told Zionists that he demands Greenland in order to enact the plans the Zionists want. Syria pipelines. Iran. US recognition of a one state Israel solution that disenfranchises Palestinians.

Or, Trump could deal with squabbling inter-European interests. Russia/ Ukraine bargaining. Fossil fuels and pipelines. NATO defense. Etc, etc.

Trump could also manuver some kind event where Native Americans of Greenland demand self sovereignty. Then sovereign Greenland immediately works out some "preferred nation" treaties with the US, or becomes a protectorate.

Addendum: The US controlling the territorial waters of Greenland and Alaska garentees control of the Northwest Passage shipping route, which will become even more lucrative as the icecaps continue to shrink annually.

Edit: I typed this as a stream of thought on a phone at a Christmas party.
P.S. Have a Happy Christmas kiwis.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

The Europeans would be better off under Russian rule.

Western Europeans at least need to learn how good they had it and come to regret being faggots towards us. Eurofags have not right to say shit about America

 

[Eekum Bokum]

The whole Greenland sperging is the most retarded thing I have read on this site. Can we get back on track instead of this meaningless dick-measuring contest?