Off-Topic True Crime thread, Transgender edition - troons committing violent crime

[Surfin Terf]

Days after a Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy agreed to plead guilty to beating a transgender man for flipping him off, at least eight colleagues have been relieved of duty amid the investigation into an alleged cover-up, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Former Deputy Joseph Benza III of Corona was headed to a domestic violence call when he saw the gesture, abandoned the call and, instead, followed the victim — now identified by the Times as 23-year-old teacher Emmett Brock — to a 7-Eleven parking lot in Whittier.

Surveillance video shows Benza throwing Brock to the ground without provocation.

Multiple LASD deputies taken off job as feds investigate trans man’s beating, alleged cover-up

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Without provocation? She is pretty clearly resisting arrest

The arrest wasn't justified, but the cop was clearly just putting cuffs on her when she starts trying to break out of his grip and escalating it to violence. Any real (white) man would get a "yeah, it sucks but you're going to get your ass beat if you try to fight a cop".

 

[LimeRikki]

You can clock these troons by their names alone. Don't even have to see em

Pooners always name themselves whatever trendy name they would have picked for a son without anyone to stop them.

 

[Bookwork]

Without provocation? She is pretty clearly resisting arrest

The arrest wasn't justified, but the cop was clearly just putting cuffs on her when she starts trying to break out of his grip and escalating it to violence. Any real (white) man would get a "yeah, it sucks but you're going to get your ass beat if you try to fight a cop".

These gals need to pass dominatrix school before pooning out. They got by just controlling fam and frens by pouting and sneering. Whoopsie.

 

[Gingervitis]

agreed to plead guilty to beating a transgender man for flipping him off

Wait, in what universe is flipping off a police officer not grounds for an arrest, or at the very least a car search?

 

[lichen]

Wait, in what universe is flipping off a police officer not grounds for an arrest, or at the very least a car search?

What is the crime being committed by flipping the bird? Or what crime does it give reason to search for evidence of?

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

What is the crime being committed by flipping the bird? Or what crime does it give reason to search for evidence of?

You only need reasonable suspicion for an investigative detention. See Terry v. Ohio.

 

[gampboonerisms]

From my law professor: the crime of pissing off the police.

What is the crime being committed by flipping the bird? Or what crime does it give reason to search for evidence of?

 

[Athena Save Us!]

What is the crime being committed by flipping the bird? Or what crime does it give reason to search for evidence of?

No crime. They'll try and arrest you, but flipping the bird falls under the First Amendment.

 

[TruffleSpark]

The thing that never happens happened again:

Women Allegedly Raped in Prison by Trans-Identifying Inmate Will Have To Refer to Attacker as 'She/Her'​

The recent ruling means that on the stand those women may be subject to speech policing from their alleged rapist—who has opted for self-representation.​

Billy Binion | 12.26.2024 4:51 PM

Women who allege they were raped in a California prison by a biological male claiming to be transgender will be compelled to refer to the defendant using she/her pronouns, a Madera County judge ruled last week, further complicating a case centered on a crime that was emboldened from the outset by the government.
Tremaine Carroll allegedly raped multiple inmates while at Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla after securing placement there by self-identifying as transgender. The Transgender Respect, Agency and Dignity Act, which took effect in January 2021, allows California inmates to be placed in a facility corresponding with the sex they say they are. Under the law, a prisoner need not be on hormones, have had surgery, or undergo a psychological evaluation to be approved. The government considers their testimony sufficient.
In 1990, Carroll was charged with three counts of kidnapping for ransom, two counts of robbery, and three counts of oral copulation in concert by force, ultimately pleading guilty to two counts of kidnapping. Several years later, Carroll was sentenced to 25 years to life under California's three-strike law after acting as a getaway driver in a robbery.
"After his first cellmate became pregnant and was moved to Los Angeles, two other cellmates of his had complained that he had raped them," Madera County District Attorney Sally Moreno told the local ABC affiliate. One of those cellmates says Carroll attacked her while she was in the shower. "This is a particular issue in this case because it's confusing to the jury," Moreno added. "In California, rape is a crime that has to be accomplished by a man."
It may be disorienting to the alleged victims, as well, who will be vulnerable to speech policing from the judge—or directly from Carroll, their alleged rapist, who has opted for self-representation. Charged with two counts of rape and one count of dissuading a witness from testifying, Carroll has since been transferred to Salinas Valley State Prison, a men's facility.
Prison rape is sadly a problem that attracts limited public outrage and is by no means constrained to women's prisons. Though precise statistics are hard to track, as such assaults sometimes go unreported, a 2012 report from the Justice Department estimated that over 200,000 inmates were sexually abused behind bars in one year alone. Many of those occur in men's prisons or happen to women at the hands of government employees. Those cases matter just as much.
But Carroll, who deserves a fair day in court, may be a fairly ominous cautionary tale. "It is our sworn duty to protect people from sexual assault and violence," Ralph Diaz, then the secretary for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, said in a 2020 statement about the Transgender Respect, Agency and Dignity Act. He added that the law would "codify our policies for the screening, treatment, and housing of this population as required by the Prison Rape Elimination Act." In other words, in seeking to comply with the federal law meant to eradicate prison rape, California allegedly encouraged it.

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[Stan]

In a way, I understand the Japanese custom of charging the deceased's parents for cleanup if he jumps in front of a train. Not that I think it's right to heap even more stress on grieving parents, but the point of something like that is "hey, your kid could have chosen a bunch of other ways to end it, but instead he decided to be selfish and give a bunch of people PTSD, so you're on the hook for that".

I feel the worst for hotel housekeeping staff who end up walking in on suicides. Nobody's gonna offer them hazard pay or grief counseling, they just have to keep cleaning.

Wait, in what universe is flipping off a police officer not grounds for an arrest, or at the very least a car search?

It's protected speech under the First Amendment is why. Nobody would recommend doing that during a traffic stop or investigation, but it's good to know the rules exactly about what is and isn't probable cause.

It may be disorienting to the alleged victims, as well, who will be vulnerable to speech policing from the judge—or directly from Carroll, their alleged rapist, who has opted for self-representation. Charged with two counts of rape and one count of dissuading a witness from testifying, Carroll has since been transferred to Salinas Valley State Prison, a men's facility.

lol he's self-representing because he has nothing to lose (he's already serving 25 to life) but watching this troon get felted in court is going to be funny. (Cause that's what always happens when cons decide to go pro se in court.) I'll mark my calendar.

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Women Allegedly Raped in Prison by Trans-Identifying Inmate Will Have To Refer to Attacker as 'She/Her'

The recent ruling means that on the stand those women may be subject to speech policing from their alleged rapist—who has opted for self-representation.​

Or what?
You'll put them in jail:?

Previous legal cases have relied on "only a man can rape a woman".
This man has being charged with rape, therefore he must be a man and calling him a man is not only accurate, but logical.

 

[countrybumpkin]

I'm shocked. /sneed

Source

 

[Twix Eatr]

Wait, in what universe is flipping off a police officer not grounds for an arrest, or at the very least a car search?

In the U.S., it is a constitutionally protected right to flip off a cop. However, as they say, you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride. Police will still often arrest you for contempt of cop, despite the fact it's protected speech. So good luck jumping through all the hoops to rectify the false arrest.

I'm shocked. /sneed
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Yep, this is what happens when "gender identity" and "gender expression" make their way into legislative writing, affirming these as equal to "sex" in the eyes of the law. I'm trying to figure more about the legislative process and how this whole civics thing works to see what can be done. There's a 0% chance the powers that be didn't know this shit would happen, though.

 

[Not A Cat Person]

A tranny tried to cut in line at a deli in New York City, at the corner of 118th Street and Lenox (aka Malcolm X Boulevard). A negro mailman took offense to this and got into an argument over it. The tranny spat in the negro's face, and he responded by throwing lemon juice at the tranny. The tranny then proceeded to stab the negro to death. This tranny, "Jaya Cruz", has a history of violence including robbing people at knifepoint. I have not been able to find any social media accounts belonging to any Jaya Cruzes that look like they might be this tranny, nor have I been able to find booking information, which leads me to believe the tranny may have been booked under his real name and no news outlets are reporting it.

New York Post - Woman Accused of Stabbing Postal Worker Over Spot in NYC Deli Line Has Long History of Knife Violence - archive

CBS - Deli worker speaks out after USPS employee stabbed to death in New York City - archive

 

[Less Nasty Old Person]

A tranny tried to cut in line at a deli in New York City, at the corner of 118th Street and Lenox (aka Malcolm X Boulevard). A negro mailman took offense to this and got into an argument over it. The tranny spat in the negro's face, and he responded by throwing lemon juice at the tranny. The tranny then proceeded to stab the negro to death. This tranny, "Jaya Cruz", has a history of violence including robbing people at knifepoint.

New York Post - Woman Accused of Stabbing Postal Worker Over Spot in NYC Deli Line Has Long History of Knife Violence - archive

CBS - Deli worker speaks out after USPS employee stabbed to death in New York City - archive

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Yanno these days if there's a crime of unusual violence, I automatically assume the perp is a troon until proven otherwise.

 

[Adventarius]

The tranny spat in the negro's face, and he responded by throwing lemon juice at the tranny. The tranny then proceeded to stab the negro to death.

It started like a Monty Python sketch but ended in pure horror.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It started like a Monty Python sketch but ended in pure horror.

Meaning, it started AND ended like a Monty Python sketch.

 

[Nero Fiddled]

A tranny tried to cut in line at a deli in New York City, at the corner of 118th Street and Lenox (aka Malcolm X Boulevard). A negro mailman took offense to this and got into an argument over it. The tranny spat in the negro's face, and he responded by throwing lemon juice at the tranny. The tranny then proceeded to stab the negro to death.

These freaks get into the habit of thinking that whatever they want to do is acceptable, and this is the result.
Trans care should really be a small padded room with a locked door.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

A tranny tried to cut in line at a deli in New York City, at the corner of 118th Street and Lenox (aka Malcolm X Boulevard). A negro mailman took offense to this and got into an argument over it. The tranny spat in the negro's face, and he responded by throwing lemon juice at the tranny. The tranny then proceeded to stab the negro to death. This tranny, "Jaya Cruz", has a history of violence including robbing people at knifepoint. I have not been able to find any social media accounts belonging to any Jaya Cruzes that look like they might be this tranny, nor have I been able to find booking information, which leads me to believe the tranny may have been booked under his real name and no news outlets are reporting it.

New York Post - Woman Accused of Stabbing Postal Worker Over Spot in NYC Deli Line Has Long History of Knife Violence - archive

CBS - Deli worker speaks out after USPS employee stabbed to death in New York City - archive

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Beaners and knife attacks, name a more iconic duo.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I have made a companion thread for those who want to know how many trans people were murdered and for what reason they died.