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The Last Stand said:
The first part is true. I'm not expecting people to just blindly follow through with whatever somebody says just because it's their side. I'm just a little shocked that it took a person that is heavily despised to bring that to light. Moreover, it's interesting that Democrats are silent on this particular issue. I guess that CEO assassination has people more brazen to speak out.
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They aren't silent; unless you mean the actual party members. Dems everywhere ain't passing up a chance to sneer smugly at MAGA with this continued forced 'Duped Again' meme.
 
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The Last Stand said:
The first part is true. I'm not expecting people to just blindly follow through with whatever somebody says just because it's their side. I'm just a little shocked that it took a person that is heavily despised to bring that to light. Moreover, it's interesting that Democrats are silent on this particular issue. I guess that CEO assassination has people more brazen to speak out.
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They aren't silent CNN even ran defense for Musk about wanting more H1B at some point and they have been sperging about mean MAGA all day. The tech bros were even retweeting CNN saying they make good points about it.
 
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LiquidKid said:
Im with family for the holidays and I had to call Nintendo tech support for one of them. I got an Indian woman who didn’t understand anything and asked me to go on hold. While on hold I turn to my mom and say “watch, she’s gonna get a white guy to fix her mistake.”
Sure enough I end up with a white guy, but it wasn’t an intended transfer. He opened with “what’s your name and your skill set.” Dumb jeet sent me to the internal consultant she was supposed to talk to direct has to a supervisor, so I explain it and he sends me to the supervisor, who was also obviously white and he solves the issues almost immediately.
After I hang up my mom says “Indians really are useless.”

I don’t think anyone feels like Indians are more efficient, they’re just cheap and they assume people will just hang up rather then deal with them.
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If Nintendo is really outsourcing to India now that's a bad sign. Nintendo's tech support used to be at their HQ in Redmond or a couple of on-shore call centers.
 
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YellowIsACoolColor said:
I am asking how lowering the minimum working age is going to help grown American workers and not just create more competition which will lead to wage stifling. If they really want children to learn how their food is made and processed they can schedule a field trip to a nearby farm and show them. You don't need to train kids on how to pick fruits from a field.
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General Disarray said:
In short, lower the age of child labor laws to allow farm kids to work part of the day during harvest time.
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I read this as lowering the working age specifically for farms. General Disarray says "farm kids" which might be limited to the kids of farmers. My post was broader and contemplated a community-wide program.

The idea of farm kid labor was from this contex:
The Last Stand said:
Not to sound like a libertarian (or a dumbass,) but how would you offset a decent wage for your farmers without upping the price of your goods? McDonald's tried that with increasing minimum wage, now a $5 meal is double the price at the same quality.
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Farm kids would be cheaper labor, in order to keep food prices down. Cheap food prices historically have been good for a countries economy, because all workers eat. Much like cheap fuel and energy prices also boost an economy.
The current source of cheap farm labor is immigrants. The options for replacement are cost effective kids, automation, retards, criminals, or more expensive food by using normal adults.
The first minimum wage laws were created to stop negroes from undercutting White wages. I believe it started with locomotives. Blacks being cheap farm equipment is not a good long term solution. Not enough retards, and you don't want to incentivise the creation of more. Automation would beat expensive adults. Automation would entail more Mega-factory-farms and centralization of the control of food production.

Having food production be part of belonging to a community is, I think, the best option. Automation would likely still happen, but I would imagine it would be kids piloting & fixing drones, and choreographing logistics.
I am asking how lowering the minimum working age is going to help grown American workers and not just create more competition which will lead to wage stifling.
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The kids who work a few seasons on farms grow to be more competent adults that command better wages and produce a better society and nation. In the shorter term, food remains affordable; which "subsidizes" other sectors of the economy. More adults can be employed if salaries are a little lower from this "subsidy".

This would optimally be paired with export and import tarrifs on food. So the lower "farm kid" wages would pass on to the US economy and not be profits extracted by sending the food overseas.

If they really want children to learn how their food is made and processed they can schedule a field trip to a nearby farm and show them. You don't need to train kids on how to pick fruits from a field.
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A field trip is not a replacement for raising chicks from hatchlings to slaughter. Or, seeing that an ecosystem of a farm is not just a monocrop and a big tractor machine. Harvesting is not a deathless operations; rodents, snakes, and bugs all die for us to make food.
Kids should tangibly be shown humans are a part of the Earth; weather and seasons have an ebb and flow that imparts life and nourishment. Life has not always been modern, and knowing that context can give grounding to your daily life.

Btw, I wasn't being disingenuous when I referred to a jewish Kibbutz.
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WelperHelper99 said:
It's not simple though. What I described with that farmer kid was bred into him. His family has generations worth of wealth because of his grandfather. That is Elon. He has always lived like this. This is normal. What we are witnessing is him coming to grips with the fact that Americans don't like to be called replaceable. He is a extremely wealthy man being brought to his fucking knees by the entire world. This is a extremely rare specetical. Have fun witnessing the humbling of a generational wealthy man.
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Elon isn't gonna change his mind. Unless his bottom line is affected. He'll just sweet talk the dems again.
 
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General Emílio Médici said:
Someone realized that they fucked up. Too late Elon, way WAY too late...
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You think the humiliation wasn't part of the plan? You think Trump didn't know as a wealthy man himself, what was going on through his head? Lol. This was hazing. Sometimes you gotta let the kid touch the stove to know it's hot.
 
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tehpope said:
America First and MAGA is Americans first. Simple as.

Get rid of the welfare state. Close the borders. Make work visas hard to obtain.
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Tired of hearing we need to compete with every country because of "merit" That is the biggest bullshit Elon and co have posted.

It's our home not a contest to see what immigrant visa mill can bid jobs at the lowest price and bullshit the most. If you want the best and brightest pajeets move your shit to India and stop bringing in engineers for Tesla at 80k USD who you probably work 60-80 hours a week and then they sent their money back home just like the mexicans do.
 
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Elon is still calling everyone who disagrees with him a racist:
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and retarded:
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Mad about someone calling him a liar for saying that H-1Bs were only for the top 0.01% of talent:
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Shortly before that freakout, he said that anyone scoring 50th percentile or above on the GRE should be admitted to the United States:
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He doesn’t like O-1 visas because he didn’t qualify for one:
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Elon’s subtarded AI thinks that Sergey Brin and Jensen Huang came into US on H1-B visas:
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Both were raised from childhood in the United States and have been in the country long before the visa program even existed.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
The tweet is aimed at the public to say which side they support. The phone call Elon is 99.9% getting telling him to wake the fuck up is for Elon. Expect this to end soon.
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Oh. Posts getting deleted now. Just after Vance posted. What I wouldn't give to hear that phone call they had with Elon. Lol.
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Listen to me, Elon. These tweets on X, you have to knock it off. I haven't even taken office and my voter base already hates you and Vivek. Do you want me to call you "Silly Elon?" Because this is how you get me to give you a nickname. You need to get your autism under control if you want DOGE to happen. Got it? Good!
 
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Elons gonna get his space privileges revoked if he doesn't calm down soon. He's burned bridges with the left and they won't accept take him back over 2024 election support. If he looses the right, and populist support, then he is finished in the political scene and business scene. Playtime is over for the rocket merchant.
 
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Swingletonthesimpleton said:
Welp. This Elon thing just makes reinforced more and more that the right amuses me just as much as the left at this point.

I mean:

The white nationalists have a gay Mexican catboy who also doubles as a fed as their main guy.

The conspiracy theorists have a fat man who sells boner pills and fearporn for a living, as their goto guy

the evangelicals have a fat billionaire who appeared on the cover of Playboy, married a prostitute, and I guarantee hasnt been to church in the past 20 years if ever, to bring God back to the country or whatever,the conservatives have him promise to bring jobs back despite the fact that he couldn't run a casino right, the man who promises to deport all the brown people again despite not doing that the last time he promised it.

And then we move to now where oh my, the African moneyman who already did a turncoat during Trump's first run... *Gasp* he did it AGAIN! and he has a pet indian this time to justify why he needs more indians to pay less than he would have to pay you.

Most of whom previously mentioned, used to be belonging to the Democratic party, even trump.

How everyone keeps falling for this shit is beyond me. It's a circus. On both sides. Watch and laugh.

Dont even get started on the lot who thinks the same groups of people who tried to ban every game under the sun for being too violent or sexual, since the days of MORTAL KOMBAT, were going to make media good again. No they'll remove the niggers and woke from it, no doubt about that. And when it's gone, they'll remove the tits, and the ass and the woman, and then the game itself because at the end of the day, it's all bullshit.


It's a laughingstock. All of it!
Thank you for listening to my rambles.
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I mean it's just one big circle jerk at this point.

I am EAGER to see trump respond.

He'll either turn on musk which will cause calamity, or he'll join musk, which will cause absolute mayhem. HE BETRAYED US111?!

And then we'll have a "he's not really maga" or "they got to him, but he WAS on our side"

Musk is not gonna give up his cheap labor. That's a given.

Either way. This trainwreck is about to explode. And it hasn't even reached the station yet.

Only question is is it gonna blow up in the tunnel or derail into an orphanage.
 
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