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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

Have some of you thought of taking advantage of Aliyah?

 

[A-Logato]

They really do ruin everything with their caste nonsense, happened to my local KFC of all places after they got a jeet manager and within 6 months the C was for curry, got shut down for not bribing the food safety people enough I think.
When I spent one shift in a warehouse a few years ago (never again) I was the only native there other than a 50 year old obvious crackhead , the rest of them were fresh off the eurotunnel slavs, it's a bit different now demographically (mostly school drop outs if the broccoli hair is anything to go by) because the jobcentres make them get jobs there now I think it's probably some future scandal.

I've been getting a good chuckle out of the Elon situation with his grandstanding for Jeets. Their not high skilled at all and just flood low paying jobs whilst sending all the money back to India so their a literal economic parasite. I've worked with more then enough of them in tech to know that those visas are full of lies!

More companies are starting to contract people from the Netherlands to do IT for them which are mostly white from the limited amount of them I've dealt with so far and their in a much better time zone for the UK to do business with so I'd advise a lot of UK based middle management techies to start looking at your options.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Could always move to Cambridge and try to get a sales job with AstraZeneca, I suppose.

 

[They were once men]

 

[teriyakiburns]

Let me tell you the depths we've reached, relayed from a cousin (so trust me bro) just this week.

Right now, there's an Indian multinational, called Tech Mahindra, that is in a near-perpetual recruitment cycle to fill seats in a remote call centre service for the banking app Klarna. They are recruiting speakers of most northern and western european languages, including English, and are doing a significant amount of their recruitment in the UK. The initial pitch is a 9-5, with above minimum wage pay, decent benefits after six months, time and a half for mroe than two hours overtime and other such things. Half the recruits in my cousin's intake quit on the first day because they couldn't understand the trainer. Over the course of a week, half of the remaining trainees quit after discovering that the promised 9-5 was actually 8-76 with the expectation that they'd unofficially work through legally required breaks and remain connected after 6 in case they were needed. They would not be paid overtime for this. My cousin quit at the end of his training, after discovering that his starting wage was to be lower because - according to the barely literate Indian trainer - he wasn't sufficiently fluent in his own language. The trainer begged him not to leave; it was apparently going to make him look bad to his boss that so many people quit.

All this happened at the start of December and they're still advertising loads of positions, so they're clearly having terrible retention. It's most likely they expected everyone to quit before the probation period was over anyway.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Klarna is a Swedish company right ? Makes sense they wouldn't hire anyone there since they have reasonable wage expectations unlike the UK where you'll find people happy to work for less than 40K.

Edit: 'services' like Klarna are a fucking stain on society anyway, I wish them all the ill will I can

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Immigration screws up financial growth.

Starmer should focus on that to aid the economy. Start with real figures of how immigration effects GDP.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Klarna is a Swedish company right ? Makes sense they wouldn't hire anyone there since they have reasonable wage expectations unlike the UK where you'll find people happy to work for less than 40K.

Edit: 'services' like Klarna are a fucking stain on society anyway, I wish them all the ill will I can

Most new fintech, enertech, and biotech companies are pump and dump gambling games for the investor class.

Don't get it twisted, folks.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Did you have that awful fog?

Been loving the fog honestly, got some great walks in it. Even behaved myself and dressed as non serial killery as possible. It did clear today though and it was nice to see the sky for the first time since before Christmas. Tomorrow off for a longer stroll so no doubt visibility will once again drop off a cliff.

 

[Ken Barlow]

It is that time of year, so, let's play a board game:

Personally I prefer Waitrose and Mouse Trap but whatevs eh.

 

[Just a boring name]

Their subsequent post talks about the school's vice-principle. I'm horrified to find schools are now using the American terms for heads and deputy heads.

A lot of schools who use the word "Principal" for Headteacher are probably Academy Schools, or, Pretentious Arseholes.

Academy Schools are businesses, and you don't have to be a qualified teacher to work in one.

I have many clients who are teachers, and when they told me this, I was really shocked.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Unfortunately, I work in a field where moving to the US would be impossible as I'd need US citizenship to work in the same industry. If I could swing it I'd be moving to Wyoming or Montana tomorrow.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I have many clients who are teachers, and when they told me this, I was really shocked.

You and me both. My assumption is it was an AI generated article and it had no idea the titles were different in the UK. But I'm not a parent so aware I might be ignorant about things and looked it up. Finding that we're using those definitions made me more than bit annoyed.

It's an incredibly minor thing and there's nothing inherently wrong with the titles. But we're a different country and should not be sucking up American terms and using them.

 

[isalaide]

Woah, there. Are you saying feminism's push to get more women in the work place was an underhanded bait-and-switch to double tax revenue and increase output, and not about women's rights not to be a housewife and look after their husbands and children? Because I sure am saying that.

You don't need to look at "feminism". You need to look at the publicly available policy papers by Brown and Balls on the introduction of Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit. They specifically outlined that the aim of introducing those tax credits and linking them to 17 hours paid work a week was to make as many women and particularly mothers economically active as possible in order to drive growth (i.e. consumer spending) and to increase the tax take.

It was a very successful piece of social engineering, and it was so useful at propping up house prices (both salaries being needed to pay a mortgage is a thing of the late Nineties and onwards, dual salary mortgages were rarely written in the Eighties and earlier) that it is now impossible to undo it without expecting Gen X and above to take the hit on the necessary - and I do believe it necessary - massive downwards realignment in house prices that the UK needs. Our so-called 'personal assets' are tied up in the fucking imaginary value of our bricks and mortar that people are killing themselves to pay for, and half of all UK millenials don't even own.

I keep autistically repeating this here, but the UK is shit by design. Decisions were actively taken to drive down wages and drive up work hours, while dropping our living standards and gently inflating us all into increasing poverty. They were taken by every government you and I have ever lived under. The rich keep getting richer; this is not even Marxist propaganda but easily measurable fact in the UK. The rich are continuing to get richer whilst the fall in our living standards is very real and increasing. My house has doubled in value in the last six years. I have lightly redecorated and changed one bathroom. There is no fucking relationship between observable reality and the market value of my home. I could buy a home for 20% of the 'value' of mine tomorrow and it would be a nice, well maintained, comfortable and reasonably spacious home less than half an hour from mine that would equally fulfil my family's needs. Mine is not worth five times that much. That's just asset hoarding bullshit.

No politician I can name off the top my head has any coherent, let alone realistic, plan to address this problem. Immigration controls alone won't work, because large parts of our economy are dependant on slave nigger wages, and replacing the actual slave niggers in those jobs with white people will not magically make jobs like JustEats delivery pay a living wage. The country's economy needs to not be principally dependent on unskilled ultraflexible cheap-as-chips labour, because people who live in the UK need to actually live here. An economy of business models that hires only from Swag and just dials up kids for min wage on the day will quite simply not support an indigenous population of our current size. This country needs real jobs and I don't see anyone who has the plan to make that happen.

 

[A-Logato]

Much like India's national anthem, we need to take the poo to the loo. Poos being foreigners and the loo being the English channel.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Unfortunately, I work in a field where moving to the US would be impossible as I'd need US citizenship to work in the same industry. If I could swing it I'd be moving to Wyoming or Montana tomorrow.

You can get an LAA if your skills are in urgent demand by the federal government, assuming you're in the defense industry. Beyond that, US citizenship is straightforward to obtain if you aren't a criminal, a retard, or a low/zero-skill worker.

Their subsequent post talks about the school's vice-principle. I'm horrified to find schools are now using the American terms for heads and deputy heads.

What about fer-ma-sees?

 

[Otterly]

We have a good base in highly technical, highly specialised scientific and medical industries - see our very own @Otterly - but let's also be clear: those are niche industries that are never going to employ that many people.

We do, but what we are paid is peanuts compared even to Europe. I earn less than a quarter of what of my American colleagues do, I know that for a fact. So because science is generally one of the easier things to travel with, a lot of people leave, and a lot of businesses leave.
We also have a huge issue with not being able to get good ideas kept here and developed here. I know it is the same thing with general engineering because I have sat and listened to multiple energy/wind etc engineers complain about it just over this Christmas holiday.
If you gave me a portfolio and a bit of money to set up some kind of ‘ministry of getting the blue skies shit funded in a way that actually leads to usable IP and products’ I bet I could make a visible uptick in gdp in under five years. We have a lot of good uni departments and a lot of great minds and they just do not translate into actually Making Useful STuff

Outside of London the country is incredibly poor economically and relies heavily on the hospitality industry.

Well we are going to solve that one by taking all the hotels out of action and filling them with migrants I think… that’s the plan, right? The whole tourism industry has to be badly affected with the hotels being used like that

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

Most of what you list here is either a net benefit (guns) or is anti-American propaganda (crime is not rampant, we hate our politicians, etc). Don't believe the doomers on the Internet.

None of this is propaganda, this is all my subjective experience. As in, the things I've encountered while being in America where I've thought "this would fuck me up if I lived here".

>Most of what you list here is either a net benefit
You're proving my point about the US and the UK being very different countries.

 

[85CentSoda]

But we're a different country and should not be sucking up American terms and using them.

I blame Hollywood for starting it, and new media/social media, like Youtube, for massively accelerating it. Globalization is a bitch.

 

[the rat]

A lot of schools who use the word "Principal" for Headteacher are probably Academy Schools, or, Pretentious Arseholes.

Even kids are using American terms, the amount of times I have heard them refer to secondary as "high school" it's so weird to me.