Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

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Edit: One more. The lack of actually accreditation as a suicide prevention line. The complete disregard for proper training of their operators (and the fact some are underage) which presents itself in calls like the one where the caller was hung up on for being confused about their tranny-ness.
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This is the most important one of all as it's the most neutral and should concern even supportive people.
 
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And some people are just plain ol' re.tarded.

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a_name_but_backwards said:
Vikki (Phil's "girlfriend") thinks you can have a PhD without finishing college, so apparently...
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Fun fact: there have been a handful of people without undergraduate degrees who were accepted into and passed (legitimate) PhD programs.

Unsurprisingly, they are all in fields that require intelligence and not just an ability to blame white men for all of the world's ills.
 
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It's hard to feel sympathy for this person in detention when we know that the last person TLL campaigned to get out of ICE detention was El Nino - and he is a literal illegal immigrant, while TLL said he was detained for being brown or trans or whatever. For all we know this person here is a mass murderer and child rapist since we can only trust TLL to lie to us again in the same way.
 
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A few hours ago I completed the entire TLL wiki after working on it non-stop from early this morning. Its state is not close to ideal yet, but the vast majority of the work on the core article has been done. All of the important items have been given tags and links, the material that was there which was dissuasive rather than persuasive was removed or altered, and what I had written before was revised somewhat. In the course of my research I refuted one or two things I had written and had to remove them, but conversely I found or realized additional incriminating evidence and made what I had stronger. The raw article is about 31.7k characters now (25.5k on the normal page)- 50% larger than before. I don't know whether that is generally seen as too long for a wiki article, but there was just such a massive amount of information, and such a high number of improprieties and misdeeds they've committed.

On Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll start to refine it, attempt to be more concise without detracting from its effectiveness, revise the critical preface so that we can persuade the most people the most efficiently, and perhaps create one or more additional sub-articles so those who have lots of time to waste and are already quite curious can edify themselves more.

I have come across some additional information and insight from analyzing and perusing all of this so intensely:
* Scout Wolfcave, that person associated with TAP, seems to approve of Greta's brutish behavior. When Greta made that FB post about her unwelcome visit to Null's house, Scout took her side and then said, "You are a certified badass.".
* I took notice of a couple of things in the Medium article TLL wrote in response to LordHaurchefant's submission (besides the fact TLL misspelled his name). First, that was the only instance which I've come across where they've stated Nina got a salary in 2016, something I was eager to find. They both received 30k each in 2016 (and they supposedly work 70 hours a week so that's minimum wage). Second, TLL asserts Greta received 28.8k in 2015, when their budget stated 24k and Greta herself stated 2k/month (24k/year).
* I have realized several contradictions in their 2015 Report in the Funding and Budget categories. This is the relevant paragraph in the wiki:

"In addition to the above irregularities, the In-Kind Contributions of the operators somehow plummet from 168k in 2015 to 60k in 2016. Furthermore, these totals seem to be based on a massive hourly assessed value of $32.83, going by their estimates of 6,000 hours being donated and being worth 197k. That section also asserts 36% of hours worked were paid. Depending on how that and the aforementioned language are interpreted, either $70.9k or $110.8k was spent on manpower/salaries. As those figures would have reflected reality in late 2015 (the report states Nov and Dec's 2015 figures were extrapolated) and TLL was founded in November 2014, the 2015 expenses and other figures should reflect this. They do not. Additionally, the 2015 In-Kind Contributions are higher than the aforementioned stated value of donated hours. Finally, the 2015 In-Kind Contributions of all the senior staff but the Director of Operations are very low when considering the assessed hourly value of manpower and the obvious need of such staff."

* I accidentally realized a feature of archive.is. If you highlight something via click-and-drag, the URL in the address bar will change. Someone who uses that URL will be taken to where that highlighted text is, and the text for them will be highlighted as well. So, if you need to emphasize a specific section or passage, you can do that with an archive.is copy.

I really need to get to bed now. I'll read all PMs and the developments here tomorrow. I hope the wiki proved useful for that interview earlier today.
 
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Field Marshal Crappenberg said:
I don't know whether that is generally seen as too long for a wiki article
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Length is not a problem for wiki articles, especially if all the information therein is valid and relevant. The only question is whether or not all that content is well-organized and easy to read - so that the people who are only interested in part of it can quickly find what they're interested in and absorb it.

I've been keeping up with your edits through the page history RSS feed. Let us know here when you're done refining it, as you mention and I'll be happy to give it a second revision and run it by you.
 
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A few hours ago I completed the entire TLL wiki after working on it non-stop from early this morning. Its state is not close to ideal yet, but the vast majority of the work on the core article has been done. All of the important items have been given tags and links, the material that was there which was dissuasive rather than persuasive was removed or altered, and what I had written before was revised somewhat. In the course of my research I refuted one or two things I had written and had to remove them, but conversely I found or realized additional incriminating evidence and made what I had stronger. The raw article is about 31.7k characters now (25.5k on the normal page)- 50% larger than before. I don't know whether that is generally seen as too long for a wiki article, but there was just such a massive amount of information, and such a high number of improprieties and misdeeds they've committed.

On Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll start to refine it, attempt to be more concise without detracting from its effectiveness, revise the critical preface so that we can persuade the most people the most efficiently, and perhaps create one or more additional sub-articles so those who have lots of time to waste and are already quite curious can edify themselves more.

I have come across some additional information and insight from analyzing and perusing all of this so intensely:
* Scout Wolfcave, that person associated with TAP, seems to approve of Greta's brutish behavior. When Greta made that FB post about her unwelcome visit to Null's house, Scout took her side and then said, "You are a certified badass.".
* I took notice of a couple of things in the Medium article TLL wrote in response to LordHaurchefant's submission (besides the fact TLL misspelled his name). First, that was the only instance which I've come across where they've stated Nina got a salary in 2016, something I was eager to find. They both received 30k each in 2016 (and they supposedly work 70 hours a week so that's minimum wage). Second, TLL asserts Greta received 28.8k in 2015, when their budget stated 24k and Greta herself stated 2k/month (24k/year).
* I have realized several contradictions in their 2015 Report in the Funding and Budget categories. This is the relevant paragraph in the wiki:

"In addition to the above irregularities, the In-Kind Contributions of the operators somehow plummet from 168k in 2015 to 60k in 2016. Furthermore, these totals seem to be based on a massive hourly assessed value of $32.83, going by their estimates of 6,000 hours being donated and being worth 197k. That section also asserts 36% of hours worked were paid. Depending on how that and the aforementioned language are interpreted, either $70.9k or $110.8k was spent on manpower/salaries. As those figures would have reflected reality in late 2015 (the report states Nov and Dec's 2015 figures were extrapolated) and TLL was founded in November 2014, the 2015 expenses and other figures should reflect this. They do not. Additionally, the 2015 In-Kind Contributions are higher than the aforementioned stated value of donated hours. Finally, the 2015 In-Kind Contributions of all the senior staff but the Director of Operations are very low when considering the assessed hourly value of manpower and the obvious need of such staff."

* I accidentally realized a feature of archive.is. If you highlight something via click-and-drag, the URL in the address bar will change. Someone who uses that URL will be taken to where that highlighted text is, and the text for them will be highlighted as well. So, if you need to emphasize a specific section or passage, you can do that with an archive.is copy.

I really need to get to bed now. I'll read all PMs and the developments here tomorrow. I hope the wiki proved useful for that interview earlier today.
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I honestly wouldn't fuss to much about the difference between projected budgets and reported expenditure. That's pretty normal in both businesses and non-profits. One thing which always struck me was how oddly specific the $28,800 each which was originally budgeted for both Greta and Nina was. It seemed like they were trying to keep under a certain threshold (I know that's now been revised to $30,000 for each employee for the current budget).

Far and away the most important aspect of their financial stuff is how little money gets spent on the hotline itself. Nothing about TLL justifies two full-time staff (who are supposedly "working" 70 hours a week each), let alone 5 staff. They spend very little time on training. Most of their donations are the result of social media campaigns. They recruit volunteers by social media. Greta and Nina do not staff the phones themselves. So what exactly *are* they doing for 70 hours a week each? What are the other staff *doing*?
 
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Field Marshal Crappenberg said:
I don't know whether that is generally seen as too long for a wiki article
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No shit is too minor.

Really, though. We've got one dumb-ass with TWO ED articles plus a page on the lolcow wiki, and another one with an entire ENCYCLOPEDIA dedicated to them. One long page documenting all of Shrek and Shit-stain's illegal and immoral activities isn't too much.

Semper Fidelis are Field Marshal for all of your efforts. The Emperor is most pleased.

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