Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[Burd Turglar]

While I think Jesse's research on the gender horseshit is excellent, the initial episode of B&R that I heard about was their pitbull episode. Suffice to say, given how egregiously terrible the research from them was in that (and Katie's follow-up doubling down), I never bothered subscribing.

Jesse kind of sounds like the creature this thread is about.

Speaking of, Liz-Oblong Jones:

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How the fuck do you get teeth that fucking yellow?! I smoke grits and my shit isn't anywhere near that fucking foul. In all seriousness, if I looked like that I would kill myself.

 

[Rainbow Child]

The Semiotics of MAILfrawd

The W in FRAWD tells you what you need to know about the I in MAIL​

 

[RepeatedMeme]

The Dong is (hopefully)getting kicked out of Australia:

Spoiler: Text

It is January 2025, which marks 3 years since I landed in Australia as a permanent resident. Unfortunately, my resident return travel facility expires not 5 years from initial landing, but 5 years from the initial visa grant which occurred in Nov 2020.

In order to get an automatic 5-year renewal, I'd need to have spent 2 years onshore since Nov 2020, but I have not been able to do that given the abridged timeline and the fact I split my time between here and Canada. Thus, to get my travel facility renewed 1 year at a time (until I become a citizen), I need to get referee letters to show I have "substantial ties to Australia that are of benefit to Australia".

If you've benefited from having me speak at your event in Australia, or from having me do work to support you from onshore with your SRE, OpenTelemetry, or Honeycomb journey, please let me know if you'd like to write a referee letter. Bonus points if you're an ACS (Australian Computer Society) member, as that's the locally recognised body for our profession.

To reiterate - I have met "Liz" personally and professionally, and can attest that he's a creep, a psychopath, and an asshole. He is obsessed with stamping out "Rape" jokes because to him rape is not a joke, it's something that he's constantly planning.

I met Liz professionally in his role as a Google SRE and again in his role speaking at conference at which I have also spoken. He makes speakers lounges uninhabitable by speaking about his terrible fetishes and stinkditch, and yes - His war against "Networked Harassment", real and imagined enemies. Kiwifarms has done nothing more than make fun of him and archive and amplify credible allegations of rape. The amount of success he's had in lawfare against a gossip site for gossip is absolutely insane; The fact that this site has suffered any downtime and devendoring is clearly Tortious interference.

A free and just society relies on creeps like Elliot Fong being laughed out of the room.

 

[FinnSven]

How the fuck do you get teeth that fucking yellow?! I smoke grits and my shit isn't anywhere near that fucking foul. In all seriousness, if I looked like that I would kill myself.

he probably only eats sweets and candy.

 

[Tismguide]

the left wing shit ruining the internet and no longer accepting tolerance but wanting total control that led to posters and management just turning against all that naturally.

you can see it with how alot of trannies used to browse these very cultures that they pretend to hate now and get alot of their personality in consuming memes or media or making jokes that originate from there. they know its horseshit to just say ah 4chan and kf turned for no reason

I think the labels themselves and society's perceptions of them are what changed.

It can get confusing whenever the sides of the culture war re-align, and it's easy to see whatever narrative you want to. You saw this during the Autism Holy War (gamergate) too, where one narrative is that everyone got along until suddenly for no reason Nazis/SJWs came out of the woodwork and ruined everything. In reality, the "Nazis/SJWs" were there all along. The people were mostly the same, it was the definitions that changed.

Liz likely genuinely believes that "normal" people are on her side, and that "Nazis" are a tiny minority. The reality is that labels, and who has the social power to define them, is fluid, and troons seem to be losing theirs. Liz may not have realized this yet because he is getting high on his own supply of internet censorship, and because people IRL won't engage honestly with him about these things because they are afraid of him hurting them or see it as pointless. Are we the hate cult, or are they? Kind of depends on who ends up winning tbh.

Or perhaps he does realize and is getting desperate. I think he would have a lot of trouble adapting to a re-alignment that takes away his privilege; he's so used to throwing his weight around and being catered to, and is a true believer in his insane worldview which would make it hard to re-integrate with a society that holds him to the same standards as everyone else. We got a bit of a preview of that with the troon-on-troon pushback on BlueSky before he re-established control there.

Like, I'm still worried the troons may win (the archive.org stealthy takedown triggers me), but we really do seem to have turned a corner. Sterilizing kids was a retarded hill for the movement to 41% on.

This just seems like a valid HR complaint to me, one that got handled entirely by meta's HR

I agree, except that I wonder how they felt confident enough in the dox to tie the employee to the account. I'm assuming (for my own sanity) that they have better evidence than I do assuming they really did fire him for this. HR boomers may not realize just how gay culture war ops can get. It's easy enough for me to imagine a random conference-goer to get verified with a photo/item, then impersonate a Reddit account from some minor public figure that overshares.

That sounds schizo to normal people because it kind of is, but now that Liz has announced an intent to continue his harassment spree, I'm going to seriously doubt any future doxes he drops. I fell for the DSP MysteryWoman troll, but I learned my lesson. I really doubt HR has learned that lesson. It would be clever if he has a bunch saved up before he poisoned the well, in which case he probably doesn't need to worry about this.

If he persists in this approach, he's going to have some friendly fire sooner or later, whether due to gay ops or simple human error. Even if not, it's a really bad look for "End Networked Harassment" to engage in a networked harassment campaign. I know they will say words about how it is ok and some will believe them, but most will eyeroll, in their heads at least. Again, we saw a bit of that on BlueSky.

 

[AnOminous]

What Blocked & Reported failed to grasp is that Kiwifarmers and normal people wouldn't consider dog hair rape to be real rape. But retards like Fong would. Thus by their definition they are a rapist.

I'm not going to take at face value the kind of guy who calls a rape a "consent accident." It was obviously a self-serving statement made to minimize Dong's rape and make the accuser look crazy. Believe all whammens.

Yeah, that’s always been my feeling. Either it was far worse than Dong is saying, or the person was such a fucking nutjar that it’s dubious whether they could give consent.

That's why Dong is entitled to no benefit of the doubt whatsoever. Even if you buy his ludicrous story, he took sexual advantage of someone severely mentally ill and did weird pervert shit to them too over the line for even (relatively) normal bondage freaks.

Included in "RACK," which Brickface claims to be into: rape play, crucifixion, flagellation, strangulation, etc. Just genuinely sicko shit. And we know Dong is specifically into strangulation, and he praises pornography where usually sexually trafficked women are forced to submit to these, insisting they're actually totally enjoying it.

The guy is just an absolute sicko.

Speaking of, Liz-Oblong Jones:

It's pretty amazing to be so repulsively ugly that it's not even possible to shoop pictures of you to make them look worse because almost any change is an actual improvement over what you actually look like.

Yeah, this too. “Oops, in the heat of the moment, I forgot to get consent! You should have been clearer!”

At least according to the actual law, you know, the one that is applied to heterosexual males who don't pretend to be women, the rule is that the requirement of consent is an affirmative duty. No consent? It's rape. It doesn't matter if you just assumed you had consent. While it doesn't have to be the "consent form signed in triplicate" bullshit college campuses seem to think, and doesn't even necessarily have to be verbal, it has to be clear and unambiguous.

"RACK" is just a license to rape and it's no surprise Fong Dong would be into it.

 

[KakaSentYa]

The reality is that labels, and who has the social power to define them, is fluid, and troons seem to be losing theirs.

This is it exactly. People like reducing each other to a "thing": MAGA, woke, SJW, Nazi, whatever. Edgelords do it for fun, playing with its limitations; stupid people do it because they're stupid and genuinely cannot do any better.

It's a fragile system, though, and it falls apart when any two people with differing views come face to face. Take Chris-Chan: is he a heckin' valid transwoman or the biggest retard who ever lived? The reality is he's both -- a Schrodinger's Cat where what is observable depends on who's looking in the box. And so is everything else.

Troons have made a fatal, ironic, and hilarious blunder: they've forgotten their boxes aren't real.

 

[Tismguide]

they've forgotten their boxes aren't real.

I assume by ironic you mean how their movement can only exist in a worldivew where everything is a social construct now attempting to cling to the idea that there is a single absolute morality that everyone shares and it is theirs?

At least the Christians have their God to hang an absolute morality on. Once you embrace the idea that gender is socially defined, it's hard to argue there is only one way to define it.

 

[Dolly Brooks]

While I think Jesse's research on the gender horseshit is excellent, the initial episode of B&R that I heard about was their pitbull episode. Suffice to say, given how egregiously terrible the research from them was in that (and Katie's follow-up doubling down), I never bothered subscribing.

Jesse kind of sounds like the creature this thread is about.

Speaking of, Liz-Oblong Jones:

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The XL bully episode is one of their worst imo, I think some people need to directly experience someone’s Princess or Blue death shaking their regular-degular Lab or Golden to finally realize that Velvet Hippos with retard strength shouldn’t exist or should be heavily regulated. I’m surprised Katie hasn’t experienced a pit-and-run with how much she travels with Moose.

 

[Twix Eatr]

he probably only eats sweets and candy.

I have to admit I took some liberties with the teeth, but honestly, not a whole lot.

The XL bully episode is one of their worst imo, I think some people need to directly experience someone’s Princess or Blue death shaking their regular-degular Lab or Golden to finally realize that Velvet Hippos with retard strength shouldn’t exist or should be heavily regulated. I’m surprised Katie hasn’t experienced a pit-and-run with how much she travels with Moose.

Definitely, which fucking sucks because those people never convert others into the sanity pile. Instead, morons with Nala and Luna simply move them into the "raised 'em wrong" pile while they rest their newborn Braxtyeighn on top of the cinderblock head..

I'm genuinely not super familiar with the pod or their personal lives, but I actually thought I did read something about her dog almost getting nannied. If so, it makes sense she'd double-down again since she already knew they could be dangerous. She can't admit she shit the bed after having her own run-in, otherwise she looks even more retarded from her perspective.

No chance they can be regulated, though. They have to be banned and bred out. Moronic owners will always exist and there's no shortage of these monsters in every single shelter ever. it should be illegal to breed these mongrels with other breeds. Every time a kid gets mauled to death, these fucking losers show up in droves to post pics of their dipshit garbage dog next to a toddler like, "See?! LITERALLY THE SWEETEST DOGS!" No way to reason with such stupidity, I'm afraid.

The Dong is (hopefully)getting kicked out of Australia:

So a single person here who lives in Aus should email whatever governing body decides this, right? Australia already has enough natural predators down there. They don't need the rotten crotch with yellow fangs.

I think the labels themselves and society's perceptions of them are what changed.

 

[MeltyTW]

The people were mostly the same, it was the definitions that changed.

the way i see it they had everyone willing to see past any disagreements and they pissed it away because they wanted to rape kids and to make everything gay 24 7 and wanted to lord over everyone and used the supposedly evil capitalists to suppress normal people instead of using their new influence for any good. i think people actually have moved rightward but mostly because people realized that people more on the right were 110 percent correct about the immorality of the lgbt and i think its the fault of people like elliot who instead of using their good will to help others even within their rat infested crab in the bucket community, tried instead to become the new aristocrats lording over people while indulging in hedonistic vices while being unquestioned by the masses.

i mean they even had the delusional marie antionette tier denying of grocery prices or the impoverishment of the american people to try and guilt you to vote your economic security away. i think its only natural youre more wary of some rainbow flag twirling chomo faggot after all that than one might be in the 00s or 90s.

 

[Twix Eatr]

They definitely overplayed their hand by going after children and demanding we accept them as the opposite sex and not just delusional weirdos pretending to be. The LGB has needed to cut ties with these freaks for a minute now, too. I've never had any gay friends even remotely close to this kind of insanity, either. The gay rights movement was literally, "We aren't coming after your kids, we won't turn you or anybody gay, and this isn't a mental illness or a choice. We're just gay and want to be left alone."

And now, for the first time in 50 years, public support for gay rights is going down. Why? Because the TQ+ freaks have unfairly latched themselves onto the LGB, despite being literally the exact opposite of everything above: they are hyper-focused on children, they are transing them in schools, and this 100% is both a mental illness, but sometimes driven by choice for their kink.

While it seems more people are waking up to the fact that goons like Elliot take a mile for every inch offered, we're still quite a ways away from regaining normalcy, I think. They seem to be well-funded and politicians are cheap and immoral. It'll take a while to unfuck this mess, especially when they still have so many people checkmated because folks are too cowardly to call these freaks out.

But yeah, I' m unsure if many are truly "right wing" now, but a shitload of left voters definitely either voted for Trump or sat out entirely.

 

[Tismguide]

they had everyone willing to see past any disagreements and they pissed it away because they wanted to rape kids and to make everything gay 24 7 and wanted to lord over everyone and used the supposedly evil capitalists to suppress normal people instead of using their new influence for any good.

I agree, but to reframe a bit: They are useful as an easily-controlled enforcer caste to maintain the status quo and advance certain interests (e.g. pharma), and in return receive certain privileges that they confuse for actual power. Enforcement castes are disposable; see Night of Long Knives, every communist revolution ever, etc. I'm curious how savvy to his place in the power structure LFJ actually is.

So a single person here who lives in Aus should email whatever governing body decides this, right?

It's Australia; they'd probably take it as an endorsement. If not, he can just point to the shitty hit pieces that call it a harassment campaign and his precious default judgement. Migration is part of his privilege as a rootless cosmopolitan. Don't tovch the poo; just observe and laugh, it's funnier this way.

 

[CEO of Gay]

Considering they didn’t completely disavow Kiwi Farms and praise Liz Dong-Gone as the hero of the Internet, I expect that he’ll make it part of his mission to get them deplatformed.

Evil is a very difficult thing to face, much less willingly call what it is. Many people have to have evil arrive on their doorstep before they understand, and some wretched souls are so cowardly they never will understand, even as evil is actively destroying them in that moment.

The Dong is (hopefully)getting kicked out of Australia:

Inshallah!

Sadly, if Dong Gone was able to get his consent accident stealthily pulled from the Internet Archive, he probably has enough dirt on enough people that he won't have difficulties getting those needed reference letters.

It's Australia; they'd probably take it as an endorsement. If not, he can just point to the shitty hit pieces that call it a harassment campaign and his precious default judgement. Migration is part of his privilege as a rootless cosmopolitan. Don't tovch the poo; just observe and laugh, it's funnier this way.

Is it still pozzloading a neghole if the neghole is a stinkditch?

 

[MeltyTW]

I agree, but to reframe a bit: They are useful as an easily-controlled enforcer caste to maintain the status quo and advance certain interests (e.g. pharma), and in return receive certain privileges that they confuse for actual power. Enforcement castes are disposable; see Night of Long Knives, every communist revolution ever, etc. I'm curious how savvy to his place in the power structure LFJ actually is.

i think in their mind they dont see a contradiction in preaching about class solidarity while using the boot of corporations against people they dont like because they have a ton of excuses and mental gymnastics and i think in their mind they see themselves as the oppressed one and any favor the corpos do is just a fraction of the bare minimum they owe to be a good person or even just not a cannibal rapist tier freak and otherwise the corporations are still literally genociding him by not pandering enough. i think if they read this theyd find the idea they had corporate power laughable and instead see it as "these corporations just decided to do the right thing (after i pulled strings and threatened their girlfriends) chuddy, its called having a conscious sweetie"

like in their mind corporations working their asses off to try and censor the entire internet and torpedo their rep and profits to desperately and often illegally try and take down kiwifarms and asking him to consider that a privilege would be like asking him to consider themselves privileged that their neighbor hasnt took out a cleaver to cannibalize and rape them not necessarily in that order. entitled enough to see a ton of labor to please them the same as normal people would see not taking great effort to go out of your way to harm someone for no reason

 

[gayMIGAman]

I am a transhumanist, accelerationist, and Marxist who fundamentally believes in the right to complete body morphological freedom. I was, of course, always a Trump voter because I hated leftists, but I never had a problem with left wing ideas in theory, I just hated leftists and Trump is a conservative Democrat anyway.
Until 10 minutes ago, when I learned of what this "person" did. Now I think every tranny belongs in the ovens. Once these freaks are exterminated then we can think about human freedom.
Trannies suffer from the same disease as homosexuals, which makes them social fascists. Adorno writes about this. Homosexuality is fundamentally an infantile, regressive disorder (i.e. it is obsessed with the anus, Freud's 2nd stage). Now there are two types of trannies, according to Ray Blanchard, AGP (autogynephilic) and homosexual trannies. The AGP ones are often open about it (consider n1x, andrea long chu etc.). If I had to guess, Liz fong is a homosexual tranny because it displays the regressive characteristics of homosexuality/fascism (the opposition to freedom of speech as an ideal, paranoia over 'invasive' threats to the "community" (a notable element of the fascist psychology!)).

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

So I listened to the B&R podcast and Jessie was very lenient with dong in many ways and less accurate about kiwifarms as a whole
Overall they got many things wrong about kf in my personal view saying we favour lefties and have no threads on rightoids, ignoring one of the bigger threads being nick who is right leaning.

Then stupid hole saying she's annoyed we didn't have threads on certain people and we should be making them bitch join up and make the thread yourself this isn't a personal army forum.

Overall they said @mailfrawd had shit opsec and originally tried some gayops which the post was deleted but quoted so not lost (I missed that)

They don't like dong too much and don't find Elliot defendable but seem to agree with his actions if he actually got @mailfrawd fired.

Somehow we are blamed for many of Elliotts actions but I just disagree.

Don't be a creepy sex pest with kinks and don't share them online.

 

[y a t s]

I am a transhumanist

Tranny. Just with extra steps.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

While it seems more people are waking up to the fact that goons like Elliot take a mile for every inch offered, we're still quite a ways away from regaining normalcy, I think.

I think they take more than just a mile for every inch offered.

 

[FinnSven]

Overall they got many things wrong about kf in my personal view saying we favour lefties and have no threads on rightoids, ignoring one of the bigger threads being nick who is right leaning.

Yeah that is one thing I took issue with too.

Personally I have not heard of most of the alleged right wingers which Herzog believed deserve a thread, so I will mostly reserve judgement apart from the fact that most newer internet lolcows get heard about through YouTube drama channels. If these people are not mentioned or featured on drama channels, then they probably don’t actually engage in drama, which is a very key part of a lolcow.

If they don’t engage in drama, then the other thing is usually that they just publicly document their lives and don’t understand that their embarrassing behavior is what people are laughing at.
Classic Chris Chan being an obvious example and other cows like King Cobra, who people seem to like as a person but still enjoy laughing at his ridiculous and public misadventures.

As for “right winger” threads, there are active threads on Musk, Trump and even one devoted to laughing at the antics of members of US military branches.
Even Josh/Null has a thread.

I get that they need to make it clear that they are not on our side for fear of harassment and cancellation, but they can still do that while being accurate.