Warhammer 40k

[bort420]

Beware of magnets getting too much fatigue and disintegrating. If you magnetise your models, make sure the magnetised parts are taken off when not in use and resting on some soft and non scratching surface.

if they're superglued in you can just debond the broken one and put another one in

 

[ToroidalBoat]

What show was this clip edited from?

"When Your Neighbour Becomes A Khorne Worshipper"

- Edwin Von Carstein

 

[MG-34]

What show was this clip edited from?

Seinfeld. It's a 1990s American comedy show about jews in New York who turn out to be awful people.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"Champion of Nurgle Hates Hygiene"

Seinfeld.

Heard of that but never really watched it. Liked Simpsons more.

 

[ShitLurker]

Every article I've read mentions this being a 40K competitor when it really competes with thing like battle tech and other smaller skirmish games. Availability will be the biggest factor in how successful the game is especially when you consider the Gundam card game has its world wide release on the 25th of this month. Don't screw up distribution and bandaid will be onto a real winner with this.
I am curious on the price when you compare how much gunpla kits cost and the insane value / detail and articulation that even the most basic kit has.

I could be interested in this, but Gundam is incredibly fringe outside of Japan and even there, it's seen better days. Miniature game may have some more staying power but the TCG I expect it to die after a few sets.

Price point is certainly a good question to ask, the gunpla sets have been doing amazing shit at great prices for ages. Don't know if reducing the scale a lot changes the costs or prospects by much though.

 

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I could be interested in this, but Gundam is incredibly fringe outside of Japan and even there, it's seen better days. Miniature game may have some more staying power but the TCG I expect it to die after a few sets.

Price point is certainly a good question to ask, the gunpla sets have been doing amazing shit at great prices for ages. Don't know if reducing the scale a lot changes the costs or prospects by much though.

The one saving grace I could see is if as mentioned above, the miniature game being played on "official" miniature scales like 1/60 takes off, or the miniature game's scale becomes popular for dioramas and the like. I could see either both or neither happening, to be honest.

 

[p1138]

The one saving grace I could see is if as mentioned above, the miniature game being played on "official" miniature scales like 1/60 takes off, or the miniature game's scale becomes popular for dioramas and the like. I could see either both or neither happening, to be honest.

The 1/144 scale maybe, because they have a couple product lines in that scale and hundreds of kits. The 1/60 scale, the models are over a foot tall which would make transporting a handful of them a pain in the ass, and there's only a dozen or so with some minor variants(plus $200 and up price tags compared to $15-40 for the 1/144 kits). Carting around a half dozen 6-8" tall kits wouldn't be any more difficult than a 40k knights army.

 

[BiggestKai]

Average alpha legion plot, deceive everyone including yourself.

 

[Van Darkholme]

Seinfeld. It's a 1990s American comedy show about jews in New York who turn out to be awful people.

not that we needed the confirmation.

 

[Meat Target]

I have dreamed of unleashing a “Chaos Horde” like that described in the Siege of Terra, all cohesion has broken down, all battle lines have congealed and there’s just a bloodthirsty mob, fully given to the warp and they want blood. Legion differences are gone.

Just fielding my EC and the scant bits of other Chaos forces I’ve got in an Apocalyse game. Fluff would be “BLACK CRUSADE IS ON! STOP KILLING EACH OTHER AND KILL THEM!”

>tfw the siege is behind schedule again because the ECs won't put down the bath salts and hentai.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Kiwi bros. I'm trying to paint something that isn't a battlesuit and I'm very indecisive with my paint scheme. I'm using contrast for the skin but base paints on pretty much everything else. This is my test model to figure out if I like the colors. I think he's fine but I'm not sure about the cloth or wtf to do with the shoulder pads. Suggestions?

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Kiwi bros. I'm trying to paint something that isn't a battlesuit and I'm very indecisive with my paint scheme. I'm using contrast for the skin but base paints on pretty much everything else. This is my test model to figure out if I like the colors. I think he's fine but I'm not sure about the cloth or wtf to do with the shoulder pads. Suggestions?
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Paint the shoulder pad and cloth the same colour as your battle suits for some army wide cohesion. Maybe add stripe or tribal markings of some kind of you're feeling so inclined.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Gundam

Every article I've read mentions this being a 40K competitor when it really competes with thing like battle tech and other smaller skirmish games.

I just came to post about this. Give me clocks if late. My YouTube had a bunch of recommended videos with titles like "Gundam Assemble blows GW away!" and "GW is cooked!". The exact same bullshit I heard about Trench Crusade, which seems to have mysteriously disappeared.

As you point out, it's Battletech that should be afraid, given that they're also a hex based wargame with aging rules. What's more, half their mech designs are stolen "licenced" from popular anime anyway.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/505blk2u/sunday-preview-the-death-korps-march-for-krieg/

>new death korps box
>only 1 artillery unit
>only 1 squad of combat engineers
>no normal battleline
>box is 50% cavalry
What the FUCK. I was really excited for the DKoK stuff, until I saw that they basically ignored Krieg's entire claim to fame. I have no idea why they even made cavalry sculpts for Krieg when theres already the Attilan Riders that couldve been fleshed out further. It shouldve been another artillery unit and a cheaper, new battleline Kriegsmen box than just the KT stuff.

People really need to figure out that third party is your best bet with guard stuff.

"Is chess a Warhammer type game?"

No. Chess is a harem anime gooner game.

Think about it. The king is male, the queen is female. The pawns can turn into any piece except the king, implying they're female too. The king is mostly useless, relying on his team of female characters to fight for him against the other female army.

Then they kick me out of the chess club.

 

[daniel day]

Kiwi bros. I'm trying to paint something that isn't a battlesuit and I'm very indecisive with my paint scheme. I'm using contrast for the skin but base paints on pretty much everything else. This is my test model to figure out if I like the colors. I think he's fine but I'm not sure about the cloth or wtf to do with the shoulder pads. Suggestions?

if you're extra retarded you could NMM that shoulder plate, if not paint it your army's preferred primary color, add some weathering, and you're golden.

People really need to figure out that third party is your best bet with guard stuff.

I've never found sculpts I like anywhere near as much as GW's, unfortunately. 3rd party sculpts look either too cartoony or too messy and unfocused. Scans are also fine, but it's still annoying that GW has been doing this shit for 40 years and still makes basic 'mistakes'.

 

[p1138]

I just came to post about this. Give me clocks if late. My YouTube had a bunch of recommended videos with titles like "Gundam Assemble blows GW away!" and "GW is cooked!". The exact same bullshit I heard about Trench Crusade, which seems to have mysteriously disappeared.

As you point out, it's Battletech that should be afraid, given that they're also a hex based wargame with aging rules. What's more, half their mech designs are stolen "licenced" from popular anime anyway.

Nah, you're not late. It's the clickbait title flavor of the week and it's fucking annoying because it makes even non grifter channels look like the grifters(who will then be posting about it a week or two late). Honestly I'm not even sure Battletech has anything to be afraid of. Their mechs are basically just two-legged tanks, even the most basic gundam stuff is a whole level beyond that. Plus even with the aging rules and various lore dumpster fires, it's certainly entrenched within its community. Even with CGL shitting things up(they're still doing better in the lore department than previously), the Gundam game would need a similar rule-set, and for CGL to massively shit the bed(like 2013-14 era GW) for it to really matter as Bandai's only reputation close to the space is TCGs which they crap out and abandon on a regular basi(I think One Piece is the only one of theirs that's lasted any significant length of time).

If Bandai makes the rules too light to be interesting, CGL if they have any sense could capitalize on having a crunchier system to draw in players beyond the initial fad stage.

Trench Crusade will be dead in the water again until the kickstarter backers without printers get their physical minis, then there will be another hype push, and maybe a push into retail after that, but I doubt that last part will happen since it rarely does with kickstarted mini games(you've already sold your target audience everything, and they'll be telling newcomers to print STLs, so still little reason to support it).

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

if you're extra retarded you could NMM that shoulder plate, if not paint it your army's preferred primary color, add some weathering, and you're golden.

NMM? For weathering I think the best technique was a piece of sponge and dabbing on some brown paint. Is that all there is to it?

 

[Humble Architect]

>tfw the siege is behind schedule again because the ECs won't put down the bath salts and hentai.
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AKTUALLY!

The EC going as hard as they did was a strategic move, helping bring down the barriers (Chaos reaches it’s purest form in destruction, death and pain) and let everyone’s immaterial pokemon join the party.

So when they took that chad guardsman who hit on a skitarri chick, skewered him and lit the poor fucker on fire, that was a part of Fulgrim’s brilliant and aesthetically pleasing strategy and not a bunch of methheads making an embarrassment of the battle for mankind.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Gundam game would need a similar rule-set, and for CGL to massively shit the bed

They already are.

Who cares about Battletech these days? Grognards who grew up on Mechwarrior 2 and have nostalgia for the tabletop. CGL has been pissing off that audience with their woke pandering. That leaves new people who are intimidated by the complex rules, long play times, and complex looking character sheets. CGL can't change the rules because Alpha Strike didn't stick. They are coasting by on memories of the good old days, but as Star Wars showed that isn't an infinite money pit.

I had an experience recently where a long time 40k fan (let's call him Joe Hobby. He's like a normie, but he just does hobby stuff, and pays no attention to online discourse). He sold his space marine collection and moved to Bolt Action, though the historical World War 2 setting is a bit dry. He showed interest in Fallout but was turned away by the price. He thought about Battletech but was put off by the character sheet. He put some thought into Star Wars Legion. I was even tempted to split a starter box with Republic vs Droids (he likes ep 1 droids and I like Republic Commando and that one animated film from 2003).

I say this because Gundam could, in theory, turn that Joe Hobby, who doesn't know what a Gundam is beyond my mild interest in Japanese model kits, into a Gundam player just by offering cool looking models at a good price. ie. The thing Bandai does with their Gunpla.

CGL and BT can't compete. What do they offer than Gundam won't? Nostalgia for Timber Wolf and some 90s PC games?



As for a threat to GW. I don't think Trench Crusade, Gundam, or others mentioned so far are a concern. What might be is Konflikt 47 3rd edtion. It won't kill GW or anything, but it's looking to do what people like me want. Warlord makes good sculpts at affordable prices compared to GW, while not being as dry as Bolt Action. The only thing it lacks is the ability to make "your guys", though they could do that with some lore changes. At some point they announced Andy Chambers contributing to the game design, and some other classic era GW guy on lore.

Again, going back to Joe Hobby. He wants a fun wargame with cool minis at an affordable price. He already has a Bolt Action army, so his buy in is relitively small. Warlords £110 start armies have a good reputation, and ample cheaper third party options exist if he wants to another army. He could easily get away with some Victrix WW2 for rank and file infantry to save money for his set peice weird war 2 units.

I saw some clickbait headlines last year about how GW had pissed off FLGS (I never watched the videos). At the hobby shop Joe Hobby likes, Warlord pastic uses about half the shelf space of GW, but that's still a lot of space proportionally speaking.

 

[daniel day]

NMM? For weathering I think the best technique was a piece of sponge and dabbing on some brown paint. Is that all there is to it?

non-metallic metal, a painting technique using volumetric highlights to replicate a metallic look without using metallic paints (usually using greys, whites, and blacks).

If you're going for quick and easy though:
Base coat of a primary color
Create weathering with thin scratches around the edges / stippling with a dry brush, preferably a metallic paint.
Use some sort of dirtying medium - either a dirty down wash, or Nuln oil or another brown wash of your choice
Highlight with base color over top

EZPZ

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Trench Crusade, which seems to have mysteriously disappeared.

I was just thinking about that, that shit vanished except for the occasional lore video I see in my recommended from someone I'm subscribed to. @Sunflower Samurai since you're pretty much the only person I've seen on this website actually "deep dive" into the shitfest surrounding it a while back, anything interesting lately?

Then they kick me out of the chess club.

Todd?

it makes even non grifter channels look like the grifters

That's the sad part, you hard survive on that platform, at least when talking about that kind of subject, without doing clickbait, and most of the people who do clickbait are grifters.

Trench Crusade will be dead in the water again until the kickstarter backers without printers get their physical minis

I remember that, I also remember not one of these fucking grifters taking about it either, for obvious reasons. I saw the hype die down in real time as the flamewars and infighting began, I kind of feel bad for the creators...