Warhammer 40k

[p1138]

GW could probably primaris-ify guard by printing generic bodies then adding unique add ons. All cadian bases, with like 6 different upgrade sprues. At the end of the day, the Imperial Guard is a military force. Seems kind of odd they have different uniforms for baseline units that arent in different roles. You could also easily slap on a gas mask and rebreather pack and call it a Krieger, or print sleeveless/torn sleeves and a bandana and call it a Catachan. If GW was feeling extra based they could sell the upgrade sprues as a seperate box, so you either build CHADians or fork up the dough. Ive heard Space Marines called the subscription service, but you could build a 2000 point SM list for ~$500 if you really get lucky and arent too picky. Guard is a certified mortgage payment if you want anything other than tanks.

Or, you know, they could ignore the Fudds of the Warhammer hobby. Whatever works.

The problem with that, is all of the regiments would require different bodies, heads for those wearing hats/helmets, different arms to go with the torsos, at that point you're making an entire separate kit aside from maybe legs, but even that doesn't work as the krieg legs wouldn't match catachans, which wouldn't match cadians, and then boots of mordians, and so on. The grognards would lose their shit if they were told to stick a steel legion gas mask on a cadian body and be told "get fucked, here's your steel legion".

Shit, there's so many regiments, I forgot Tallarn, Tanith, Elysians...

Ignoring the fudds of the hobby would be great, but it won't happen unfortunately.

 

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The problem with that, is all of the regiments would require different bodies, heads for those wearing hats/helmets, different arms to go with the torsos, at that point you're making an entire separate kit aside from maybe legs, but even that doesn't work as the krieg legs wouldn't match catachans, which wouldn't match cadians, and then boots of mordians, and so on. The grognards would lose their shit if they were told to stick a steel legion gas mask on a cadian body and be told "get fucked, here's your steel legion".

Shit, there's so many regiments, I forgot Tallarn, Tanith, Elysians...

Ignoring the fudds of the hobby would be great, but it won't happen unfortunately.

I read in one of the rulebooks or guard codexes kitbashed guard regiments that were literally that. Krieg Legs on Catchan Torsos with WFB Knight Helmets or somesuch nonsense. It was blatantly GW trying to say "go make /your dudes/ of your own specific regiment, the Imperium is insane and there are infinity number of these out there."

Which is what I thought GW was doing until I heard that the Guard fell victim to Variant Marine Syndrome -- aka Special Snowflake Disease. What an incredibly stupid move. The rules should be as regiment agnostic as humanly possible, but I guess doing so would enable 3rd party sellers and STLs and they can't do that, eh.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"Guardsman Joe Learns About Xenos" -- Edwin Von Carstein

Do the chaos gods exist outside the milky way galaxy?

It's been argued they'd be far more powerful if they did.

Also their births are related to Terra history and Eldar.

 

[p1138]

I read in one of the rulebooks or guard codexes kitbashed guard regiments that were literally that. Krieg Legs on Catchan Torsos with WFB Knight Helmets or somesuch nonsense. It was blatantly GW trying to say "go make /your dudes/ of your own specific regiment, the Imperium is insane and there are infinity number of these out there."

Which is what I thought GW was doing until I heard that the Guard fell victim to Variant Marine Syndrome -- aka Special Snowflake Disease. What an incredibly stupid move. The rules should be as regiment agnostic as humanly possible, but I guess doing so would enable 3rd party sellers and STLs and they can't do that, eh.

Sure, but GW also told people to make land speeders out of empty deodorant sticks at one point. They haven't done that for ages. And as far as special snowflake rules, they aren't willing do that without models because of the chapterhouse lawsuit, so they're stuck trying to appeal to the people who want everything and doing a halfassed job in the process.

Really most of the people who have been bitching at them about guard for ages would be better off if they'd shut up and just go play a ww1 or ww2 historical already.

 

[Male Idiot]

Warp used to be universal or even multiversal. It was bigger than the universe and 40k and Fantasy were just reality bubbles on its top.

Orks can easily, skip to a random galaxy if a mekboy does a fucky wucky. But it is orks, even if the galaxy has no sentient life, there will be orks to fight soon enough.

 

[Meat Target]

Like many other things I like, the hyper-competitive hardasses and rules lawyers dampen the fun and creativity.

There's a reason I keep my tabletop friend group small. If someone is gonna let minutia get in the way of enjoying the game, then they're not worth playing with in the first place.

 

[MG-34]

Hey guys, a new Hammer and Bolter trailer is here, and it involves the Guard! So guess what shows up despite it being completely retarded and nonsensical?

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Of fucking course.
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GW... you blew it the fuck up. You can't. I'd ask if they forgot about Elysians, Salvar Chem Dogs, etc, because the Guard is officially Ultramarine levels of overused. It's like Cadians, Kriegers, and... actually they have used any other regiments to any fanfare? Not counting those goofy ass Solar Auxiliaries.

Does the warhammer streaming service have a rating system? I can't imagine all the recent additions to the lore are very popular with some scant exceptions.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Does the warhammer streaming service have a rating system? I can't imagine all the recent additions to the lore are very popular with some scant exceptions.

Rating system or not the latest half year report actually showed an increase in subscriptions to Warhammer+ to over a million users.

 

[Meat Target]

"Throne damn it! First the Commissar says to 'make the tank more OSHA compliant' without elaborating, then executed us for 'heretical' markings!"

 

[winderson_silva]

Do the chaos gods exist outside the milky way galaxy? I know the Immaterium runs parallel no matter where in the universe you are, but if any faction ever developed a way to fuck off to another galaxy would there still be Slaanesh demons?

They exist across all reality, we just dont see it because the setting is self contained. No need for the writers to go and say "yes theres khornate factions on galaxy m28353bt" if we will never see it.
The codexes make clear the gods' gaze spam all time and space, Eldrad says its pointless to leave the galaxy because Slaanesh would just follow them, and Dead Sky Black Sun shows a vision of a galaxy consumed by Khorne worship.

Tyranids I expected but Orks? How the hell would Orks manage to escape the galaxy? They're a local species. Unless the implication is the Old Ones planted them outside the galaxy, but why?

The Ork thing is a mix of fandom. The probe is never said to actually had left the galaxy, its a relic from the 90's, when it was originally stated that the probe was made to circle the entire universe, yes, you heard it, the probe was supposed to reach the end of the universe and them go around it before coming back.

Rating system or not the latest half year report actually showed an increase in subscriptions to Warhammer+ to over a million users.

I actually got a refund for Warhammer + once I told GW that their garbage website cant load the PDFs from the vault in any relevant speed. On mobile it takes over 10 minutes to load Imperial Armour vol 1, and after that it will load the pages 1 by 1. Vault also is dead, 2024 passed with less than 10 releases, which seemly its because theres only a single person doing it, and instead of , you know, using a pre existing digital copy, the person needs to get the physical content to scam them because GW is afraid someone will read a rule of a system they dont even support anymore, so they butcher the Imperial Armour releases.

That and TV only being avaliable on 12 countries, mean you just got almost no content to be worthy over a month.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

They exist across all reality, we just dont see it because the setting is self contained. No need for the writers to go and say "yes theres khornate factions on galaxy m28353bt" if we will never see it.
The codexes make clear the gods' gaze spam all time and space, Eldrad says its pointless to leave the galaxy because Slaanesh would just follow them, and Dead Sky Black Sun shows a vision of a galaxy consumed by Khorne worship.

I thought that the warp was calm outside of the galaxy implying that warp travel wouldn’t be possible due to them not moving, this implies the chaos gods were largely central to our galaxy.

 

[winderson_silva]

Not really, the warp is calm because theres no life, wherever theres life, the warp will be active.

Warp travel is possible outside of the galaxy, the Imperium made multiple expeditions to outside the galaxy, up to the satelite dwarf galaxies, as well Admiral Ursus in M35

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

They exist across all reality, we just dont see it because the setting is self contained. No need for the writers to go and say "yes theres khornate factions on galaxy m28353bt" if we will never see it.
The codexes make clear the gods' gaze spam all time and space, Eldrad says its pointless to leave the galaxy because Slaanesh would just follow them, and Dead Sky Black Sun shows a vision of a galaxy consumed by Khorne worship.

It just seems strange to me that the Gods would have the power to influence the entire universe fed by one galaxy. Slaanesh didn't exist until the Eldar birthed him and now the whole universe suffers from Slaanesh demons? Why are there not other galaxies creating other universe spanning Gods? Imagine if one day we see demons spawning in our galaxy because somewhere in galaxy m28353bt they birthed a 5th chaos god. It also makes me wonder why they would care so much about our galaxy when there are potentially infinite galaxies to feed from. I know that chaos will always hunger for more, but why such an intense response to stopping the Emperor's plans at all costs? It's just one galaxy.

The Ork thing is a mix of fandom. The probe is never said to actually had left the galaxy, its a relic from the 90's, when it was originally stated that the probe was made to circle the entire universe, yes, you heard it, the probe was supposed to reach the end of the universe and them go around it before coming back.

Sending a probe to circle the universe is exactly the kind of over-the-top bullshit that made me love 40k. It's retarded and completely unnecessary. That's why it's great.

 

[Meat Target]

It just seems strange to me that the Gods would have the power to influence the entire universe fed by one galaxy.

Slaanesh didn't exist until the Eldar birthed him and now the whole universe suffers from Slaanesh demons? Why are there not other galaxies creating other universe spanning Gods? Imagine if one day we see demons spawning in our galaxy because somewhere in galaxy m28353bt they birthed a 5th chaos god. It also makes me wonder why they would care so much about our galaxy when there are potentially infinite galaxies to feed from. I know that chaos will always hunger for more, but why such an intense response to stopping the Emperor's plans at all costs? It's just one galaxy.

I'm sure they have influence in other galaxies and corners of the universe, but the Milky Way is the setting, and thus becomes the focal point of Chaos' incursions into realspace.

You have to stay within some worldbuilding boundaries, lest it become (gag!) like the SCP foundation.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

It just seems strange to me that the Gods would have the power to influence the entire universe fed by one galaxy. Slaanesh didn't exist until the Eldar birthed him and now the whole universe suffers from Slaanesh demons? Why are there not other galaxies creating other universe spanning Gods? Imagine if one day we see demons spawning in our galaxy because somewhere in galaxy m28353bt they birthed a 5th chaos god. It also makes me wonder why they would care so much about our galaxy when there are potentially infinite galaxies to feed from. I know that chaos will always hunger for more, but why such an intense response to stopping the Emperor's plans at all costs? It's just one galaxy.

We will never get an answer in the lore, but I can theorize.

The Warp is a different dimension than our reality. Drawing power from the Warp allows you to do things that are not possible with the laws of physics. Yet the Warp corrupts reality. Proper rites and skills are needed to prevent more of the Warp from leeching into, changing, and ultimately replacing reality when drawing power from the Warp.

The Cicatrix Maledictum can be seen all across the galaxy even though it should take light years for it to be seen!

Imagine the effects an entire galaxy engulfed in the Warp. Perhaps a scientist in a distant galaxy sees a bright, disorientating light through a telescope. It vanishes in seconds, but the scientist notes that such light was millions of light years further than had ever been seen before. What power could be behind that light?

And with that, the Gods have a new galaxy of souls to claim. And then another. And another.

 

[winderson_silva]

Why are there not other galaxies creating other universe spanning Gods?

Because they don't matter. Really, it's irrelevant to the setting. There may be a quintillion galaxies taken by chaos and another septilion eaten by the nids, and it doesn't matter.

As far the setting cares, they don't exist. We know chaos extends across it all, and that's as far we are supposed to care. Nurgle made all decease in the universe. Does it means we will see an esoteric disease that only affects plasma minds from Andromeda? No

 

[regalterry]

I disagree that the Chaos God exist outside the Milky Way. For one thing, the Deep Warp is a thing, and that's a "place" where even the Big Four fear to tread, so the known Warp is at the very least limited in size, if that is even a word that can be used to describe it.

Secondly, the Tyranids are extragalactic, yet they caught the Chaos Gods completely by surprise, and neither side seems to have been aware of each other's existence.

Also, if the Chaos Gods were truly nearly omnipotent and omnipresent, they wouldn't be scared shitless of the God Emperor.

 

[Meat Target]

I disagree that the Chaos God exist outside the Milky Way. For one thing, the Deep Warp is a thing, and that's a "place" where even the Big Four fear to tread, so the known Warp is at the very least limited in size, if that is even a word that can be used to describe it.

Secondly, the Tyranids are extragalactic, yet they caught the Chaos Gods completely by surprise, and neither side seems to have been aware of each other's existence.

Also, if the Chaos Gods were truly nearly omnipotent and omnipresent, they wouldn't be scared shitless of the God Emperor.

The Chaos Gods can be vastly greater than the Milky Way or mortal comprehension and still be limited, finite beings in and of themselves.

Like other deities of the Lovecraftian sense, they are only called "gods" by analogy because they are unintelligible to most mortals. They're not supposed to be conceptually equivalent to God as understood by the Abrahamic religions.

Plus, their power is derived from the emotions and devotion of living beings. The Milky Way is where a lot that is concentrated, and thus it attracts their attention.

 

[regalterry]

The Chaos Gods can be vastly greater than the Milky Way or mortal comprehension and still be limited, finite beings in and of themselves.

Yes, but after thinking a bit more about this, if they truly had a presence outside our galaxy, wouldn't they be able to bring xenos from elsewhere to aid them in their fight here? Also, none of their underlings mention other galaxies.

Granted, Chaos Space Marines aren't exactly in the habit of sharing stories with their cousins, but we've had a lot of material from their perspective, and yet at no point was ever an individual or group seen traveling outside the Milky Way, nor do they ever mention seeing anyone else doing it.

Like other deities of the Lovecraftian sense, they are only called "gods" by analogy because they are unintelligible to most mortals. They're not supposed to be conceptually equivalent to God as understood by the Abrahamic religions.

And that's the crux though, they're not gods in any real sense of the word, they're not even the living embodiment of the concepts they represent, they're just quasi-sentient leeches that have latched onto the well of emotion they are associated with, but that well is local to the Milky Way, hence why I don't think they are present elsewhere.

Other galaxies likely have their own little corner of the Warp, and likely contend with their own version of Warp vermin.

 

[Male Idiot]

Older lore stated that Chaos was multiverse, this is how WHF could get crossovers with 40k.

Newer lore doesn't know and just avoids making a statement, everything is canon.

Gw is lazy, and fleshing out Chaos across trillions of galaxies would take too much work.