Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[lion of panjshir]

Unattractive scaly creature, all of those named are jews.
What did he mean by this?

Putin also called out the '"godless jews".

The call is coming from inside the house.

 

[Echo_Doge]

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If things keep going how they are, it won't be long before the Ukies are spending more men to chase and shoot deserters than fighting.

Not that crack Ukrainian troops have much of the crack about them anymore. The Russians believe that there was meant to be a follow up to yesterday's attack. But the special forces just didn't turn up. No-one's quite sure if they disobeyed orders or if they technically don't have to follow them.

It looks like they took one look at "Operation: Charge Through Open Fields with No Air Support" and nope'd out. That probably went double after they watched the "First Wave" get completely destroyed without accomplishing anything.

I can't say I blame them. It looks like they were going to mix the unit with a bunch of disposable foreign mercs and have them bum rush any settlement they could get close to "At all costs"

The Ukies haven't said much about this "Counterattack", but all signs are pointing towards all vehicles being lost and all personnel killed or captured.

 

[jje100010001]

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The end of the war requires the consequent mass persecution and execution of key Azovites. There is no benefit to their continued presence, and will only result in complication down the road, much like the Islamist Chechens in Syria.

 

[Light blue notebook]

NATO tactics are predicated on the promise of overwhelming air supremacy. They apparently can't comprehend any other reality. The 2023 counteroffensive plan NATO pushed involved Ukraine concentrating most of its hardware on a single point against an enemy with superiority in artillery and air support (as well as near-complete visibility of the battlefield thanks to satellites and drones). Swap the Ukrainian soldiers out for French or British or German equivalents and Ukraine would collapse within six months.

This has been one of the funnier aspects of this war.

When Western veterans from Iraq, Afghanistan, went over to Ukraine and started to whine that they couldn't get immediate support, like air, artillery, reinforcements, the moment they asked for it.

 

[Betonhaus]

Would an effective survival tactic for UAF soldiers is to strip to their undergarments so it's clear they're unarmed and run to the Russian side? Would they still get struck when spotted by a drone?

 

[Soyjack Pinhead]

Would an effective survival tactic for UAF soldiers is to strip to their undergarments so it's clear they're unarmed and run to the Russian side? Would they still get struck when spotted by a drone?

IIRC, the Russians had a number to call (VOLGA, or something?) if you're in the UAF and want to arrange a surrender. The problem is that we've now seen multiple instances of the UAF deploying blocking detachments to kill their own troops. If the Russians didn't kill you, your former comrades almost certainly would.

 

[Charred Dinosaur]

Would an effective survival tactic for UAF soldiers is to strip to their undergarments so it's clear they're unarmed and run to the Russian side? Would they still get struck when spotted by a drone?

In terms of surrender attempts it wouldn't be the worst idea, but far from the best way.
The Russians might think you've got mad, and running at a trench line without prior communication is always a good way to get filled with lead, regardless of how much clothes you are wearing.

A bigger danger however would be your allies, if you are lucky you will be stuck with other conscripts who don't want to be there and will look the other way, but that still won't help you if a drone operator figures out what you are doing.

As the post above said just find a way to call Volga so you can arrange your surrender. If you can't do that just try to find somewhere to hide and pray that the Russians will advance before you die of thirst/exposure... And if you still can't do that then at least frag the Azovites pointing a gun at you. At that point you are dead anyway so you might as well try to save somebody who has a similar idea in the future.

 

[Fapcop]

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Lmao… They’re seriously bragging about shooting down a bunch of cheap, slow kamikaze drones?

lol!

As the post above said just find a way to call Volga so you can arrange your surrender.

FREQUENCY 149.200 CALLSIGN VOLGA! Save your life Hohol!

I recall one Ukrainian arranging his surrender in a goddamn tank.

He didn’t want to be sniped nor droned by Azovites, and if someone sees a tank driving around, they assume they’re supposed to be there. So he got on the radio, arranged his surrender and crossed the grey line in a tank.

Ballsy. Good story for the grandkids.

 

[Radola Gajda]

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/45044

Archive: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/KDASM

LOL Lmao even

 

[TexWiller]

Anyways, I've heard predictions that the Ukrainians are close to capitulation(like 1-3 months awat), but I don't follow this stuff very closely so I'd like to hear your opinions on how realistic this is.

Hard to make predictions, especially about the future...
Ukraine is being used by CIA et al as a staging ground to attack Russia. All the drone attacks we see while the Ukr army is being pulverized at the front is 100% work of the usual supects and have absolutely nothing to do with the SMO, and have zero military value in this respect.

Problem is, as i see it, is that as long as NATO keeps using Ukraine to attack Russia, Russia will need to advance, possibly until there is no more Ukraine left, because NATO will be able to use the last unoccupied sqkm to haul missiles at Russia.

Georgia flip has so far failed, and NATO obviously cannot bomb Russia from NATO proper. Or at least i hope so.

Of course this could change immediately the moment NATO stops using Ukr as forward base, but then, how can this be achieved? NATO and the west are not credible, they will lie and cheat and therefore no treaty will be worth the paper it is written on, and absurd proposals like NATO peacekeeping forces in Ukr are a non starter.

If i was the Russian king, the SMO would be over only the moment Ukr is completely demilitarized, and border with NATO/EU is sealed shut by military force.

That Trump will be able to rein in the deep state has to be seen. i am skeptical. It would require CIA and the salad of other 3 letters agencies connected to it to be disbanded, everyone in it fired, and put on a black list that would make for them to work for any US govt position illegal.

And that would be just a good start.

 

[Gondolindrim]

Ukraine is being used by CIA et al as a staging ground to attack Russia. All the drone attacks we see while the Ukr army is being pulverized at the front is 100% work of the usual supects and have absolutely nothing to do with the SMO, and have zero military value in this respect.

Also, the increase in drone attacks seems like a tacit admission that they no longer have the manpower to mount actual offensives.

 

[Meh123]

Of course this could change immediately the moment NATO stops using Ukr as forward base, but then, how can this be achieved? NATO and the west are not credible, they will lie and cheat and therefore no treaty will be worth the paper it is written on, and absurd proposals like NATO peacekeeping forces in Ukr are a non starter.

I heard some theorycrafting on The Duran or on Judging Freedom that trump is not very keen on the USA being NATOs sugar daddy, and that he might actually discuss with putin NATOs dissolution as a solution to the oinkraine crisis. Which actually would resolve the main problem puttlermort raised: nato expansion into russia's ass.
I'm all in for removing US troops (and politicians) from the EU, but there are not enough to express my expectations on that..

And that would be just a good start.

What would you do with all the assets the CIA has abroad and at home? The kind that do assassinations and is disgrunted because you just removed his livelihood?

 

[Keystone]

Also, the increase in drone attacks seems like a tacit admission that they no longer have the manpower to mount actual offensives.

Not entirely true. They have the manpower, but they need time to snatch it off the streets first. Then they throw that fresh crop of street meat to the Russians, who then kill/capture all of them. Then they snatch another batch of manpower off the street. Rinse and repeat until every last Ukrainian in the east, and eventually west, is dead.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

What would you do with all the assets the CIA has abroad and at home?

Put them back to work assassinating enemies of the Clintons and child trafficking for the elites, the stuff they're known for.

 

[TexWiller]

I heard some theorycrafting on The Duran or on Judging Freedom that trump is not very keen on the USA being NATOs sugar daddy, and that he might actually discuss with putin NATOs dissolution as a solution to the oinkraine crisis. Which actually would resolve the main problem puttlermort raised: nato expansion into russia's ass.
I'm all in for removing US troops (and politicians) from the EU, but there are not enough to express my expectations on that..


What would you do with all the assets the CIA has abroad and at home? The kind that do assassinations and is disgrunted because you just removed his livelihood?

NATO is a huge organization and multiple countries are involved. Plus, not sure about the process to leave NATO, i think to remember that it is long and convoluted. Granted that the moment USA cuts the money flow NATO just crumbles, but i dont see that happening.

Nato has outlived its initial purpose and has become just a tool for hegemony. The cost to US taxpayer is enormous, the ups are questionable to say the least, while "allies" just put token partecipation and in exchange get overpriced LNG and industrial destruction.

The whole european NATO apparatus from the cold war has mostly become urbex paradise.

So NATO dissolution is in my uneducated view not happening during T administration.
What could happen maybe is that USA raise hands, declares a dindu nuffin, and just drops the Ukr hot potato in EU lap. Now that would be fun.
Imagine the baltic states having to fend for themselves. Or Sweden/Finland. Unlimited entertainment.
If i was King of Russia, i would start ammassing troops on finnish or swedish border, just for laughs.

What would you do with all the assets the CIA has abroad and at home? The kind that do assassinations and is disgrunted because you just removed his livelihood?

Just fire them. I bet there are not so many open positions worldwide for this sort of trade.
Perhaps they can learn to code.

 

[Slicc Vicc]

If you know, you know /funi /hoom0r
Also:

Franku predicted this 100%

EDIT: Bruhhhh

 

[kuuu]

EDIT: Bruhhhh

They refused to surrender until they were forced out with grenades and teargas in an airduct. And even then they didn't drop their weapons.

C'est la guerre.

 

[Rubick]

Russians seems to be close to closing Sudzha and remaining Ukrainian formations in Pogrebki, Novaya Sorochina and Orlovka are now in an operational encirclement.

Which looks like if the advance keeps going same speed. Ukrainians Kursk operation will be broken by the time Trump is in the office.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

More:

https://kyivindependent.com/russian-troops-overrun-kurakhove-approach-pokrovsk-from-east-south-and-southwest/

https://archive.is/bzFSA/again?url=https://kyivindependent.com/russian-troops-overrun-kurakhove-approach-pokrovsk-from-east-south-and-southwest/

 

[Welf Welf]

>The town has not been strategically important
There it is!