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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
So the current system for students is hell so here is a breakdown of it and god forbid you are an older learner.

Maitenance loan - £11.6k max NHS bursary 5k - total = 16.6k. Term time October 1st - August `st (the good unis all tend to operate on this basis)

You are at uni for 4 days a week with 1 day being a reading day, classes are 9 - 4 and on some 9 - 6. You don't have many essays but it is mostly exams but here is the kicker; placements. Placements are ran horribly and ran by a centralized system called e-pad per placement which is grouped like this;
  1. Year one - Nov placement 6 weeks, Feb placement 8 weeks, April to June place 12 weeks with a 3 week break of exams
  2. Year two - October 10 week placement, Feb placement 3 month placement, May - August 1st 3.5 month placement
  3. Year three - October - Feb 4-5 clinical then later one you have a similar duration
E-pad acts as the hub of these placements and you need to complete proficiences inside of it but also ask nurses in their free time to sign off your time sheets. It's a shit show and it is no wonder why 70% of nurses quit their studies on top of this you get treated like shit constantly, it is basically slave labour but at least you can flee the country, which a shocking number of nurses do now.
 
On an unrelated note, I don't know if this might help anyone?

Last year I was unemployed for a little over two months. I claimed state benefits , having never done so before. This was in April to June last year.

In that time I was referred by my local council to a local CIC who issue fuel vouchers to people on prepaid meters.

Earlier this week I was contacted by said CIC to ask if I needed any fuel vouchers because of the bad weather. Luckily I don't but thanked them for getting in touch

They explained they've a budget they must use otherwise it would be cut next financial year. If you know anyone struggling in this way just now it's worth contacting your local council (I'm lucky ish on that mine isn't the worst) of googling "fuel voucher discretionary scheme + your postcode" to see if there's any help locally.

If they don't use the funds they lose them (and I think that's a retarded way of doing things but hey ho).
 
On an unrelated note, I don't know if this might help anyone?

Last year I was unemployed for a little over two months. I claimed state benefits , having never done so before. This was in April to June last year.

In that time I was referred by my local council to a local CIC who issue fuel vouchers to people on prepaid meters.

Earlier this week I was contacted by said CIC to ask if I needed any fuel vouchers because of the bad weather. Luckily I don't but thanked them for getting in touch

They explained they've a budget they must use otherwise it would be cut next financial year. If you know anyone struggling in this way just now it's worth contacting your local council (I'm lucky ish on that mine isn't the worst) of googling "fuel voucher discretionary scheme + your postcode" to see if there's any help locally.

If they don't use the funds they lose them (and I think that's a retarded way of doing things but hey ho).
Be careful. I got a load of overpayments when I was unemployed for a bit during Covid, tried to pay it back and was told it was fine. Last year I got the letter demanding it back. A lot less than I thought but still a surprise.
 
Be careful. I got a load of overpayments when I was unemployed for a bit during Covid, tried to pay it back and was told it was fine. Last year I got the letter demanding it back. A lot less than I thought but still a surprise.
These were grants, and separate from the benefits system, but you make a good point. I've read of such similar horror stories and asked and asked again before accepting any offers of additional help. And they confirmed that they don't have anything to do with the benefits system themselves, they're a seperate entity, and their grants do not need to be paid back and are discretionary based on each persons circumstances.
 
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m not sure how GP surgeries work. Do they bill the NHS for seeing people?
They are private, sort of. When the NHS was formed GPs were not actually his employees - most of them worked from their homes and they refused to become nhs employees. Nye bevan ‘stuffed their mouths with gold’ and let them carry on seeing private patients too.
A few decades later they reformed things but they are still independent contractors working FOR the nhs, not actually NHS employees. There were a lot of rules on commercialisation and being unable to have shareholders etc. they’re still part of the NHS pension scheme though.
Early 2000s they reformed again, to APMS contracts and this has been a bit of a disaster because it lets large companies take over GP practices and this has happened.
They now get paid not simply for providing services to an area/number of people but by ‘DES/LES’ (directed enhanced or locally enhanced) services, so x amount of money per covid or flu shot, x amount of money per person put on statins, all sorts of stuff. This creates a conflict of interest, or course, if you’re paid by how many people get put on statins rather than the people who actually need them you’ll end up with people on statins who shouldnt be. It’s also why even when you couldn’t find a GP you could always get a coof shot.
 
Considering the UK has no formal constitution, wouldn't it be theoretically possible for the country to legislate itself into a dictatorship?
The Soviet Union under Stalin had a fantastic constitution that guaranteed a massive amount of freedom and liberty to Soviet citizens. Now, I don’t want to issue any spoilers, but can you guess what life was like for the citizenry under Stalin?

Constitutions aren’t magic spells which grant liberty. You have to water the tree of liberty a hell of a lot before people take a constitution seriously.
 
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On an unrelated note, I don't know if this might help anyone?

Last year I was unemployed for a little over two months. I claimed state benefits , having never done so before. This was in April to June last year.

In that time I was referred by my local council to a local CIC who issue fuel vouchers to people on prepaid meters.

Earlier this week I was contacted by said CIC to ask if I needed any fuel vouchers because of the bad weather. Luckily I don't but thanked them for getting in touch

They explained they've a budget they must use otherwise it would be cut next financial year. If you know anyone struggling in this way just now it's worth contacting your local council (I'm lucky ish on that mine isn't the worst) of googling "fuel voucher discretionary scheme + your postcode" to see if there's any help locally.

If they don't use the funds they lose them (and I think that's a retarded way of doing things but hey ho).
You are doing God's work passing this info on, friend. It's been fucking cold lately and a lot of people are struggling.
 
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I look forward to seeing Idris Elba as Messi in his upcoming Messi biopic. :story:

So far, the local media is going "are these people stupid or what?", this is hilarious.

One thing you guys have to understand, is that this Evita blackwashing makes it exceedingly funny because for us, classism is where it's at. We truly don't give a damn about skin colors, all that matters is who you are, where you live, and if you're loaded or not. And since more often than not, the lower classes in Argentina tend to be mestizo, and as such, the prime target of peronists, this basically makes someone like Evita look like she was truly ghetto trash black... "negro de mierda", in Argentine's parlance.

It's like a 7D Intergalactic Master Troll move, fucking brilliant. :lit:
 
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