Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

[SaidNoOneEver]

Conspiracy theory time - they’re letting it burn because there was no way to fix the homeless/drug/gang problem in a Woke way before the 2028 Olympics.

Zero chance much of this is rebuilt in 4 years. ZERO. This is well beyond Katrina-level damage dollar-wise and those people didn't have LA's zoning/permitting hellscape to deal with in their rebuilds. Hell it'll be a year before hardly any of them even see an insurance payout.

 

[CryptoHermit]

This is the pisser though -

• 
  December 26–January 17, 2023
  An atmospheric river dumped an estimated 30 trillion gallons of water over California. The average precipitation was 11.47 inches across the state, with some areas receiving 40–90% of their annual rainfall.
  
  
• Winter 2023
  California received more than 78 trillion gallons of water from a dozen atmospheric rivers. The state experienced widespread rain and hundreds of inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada.

Unironically PERMACVLTRE would have solved this. I keep referencing this but some Saudi princesses honeypotted a White hydrology engineer to reshape the Al-Baydha valleys in western Saudi Arabia to recreate a savannah biome where mountain rains flood hill valleys. https://preservetube.com/watch?v=T39QHprz-x8

Before the WHITE MAN:

After THE WHITE MAN IS BACK BABY:

 

[Breadbassket]

I know people are not talking yet about casualty numbers, but is there any way this hasn’t killed a whole bunch of homeless people/ drug addicts? I haven’t seen anything like buses rounding them up to evacuate, they would need something organized and that seems to be a critically missing skill for the people farming the homeless for government cash.

I would expect them to popping up on those day-after videos of the devastation, but there’s no people on the streets.

Maybe I missed it but it seems like a dog that isn’t barking.

Will not be surprised if deaths are under-reported as of this time. Good chance some remain are in areas that aren't under control yet. Properly identifying them is probably difficult to.

 

[Turkey Beef]

The fact is Southern California shouldn’t be a built up over populated hellscape of millions of people, concrete and trash brush and eucalyptus trees….and depend on artificial water supplies to sustain it.

The native population in 1820 was about 300,000 for the entire state. Southern CA alone now has 30 million people. The idea of the Santa Ana winds combined with wildfires has always terrified people with good reason. Creating artificial irrigation and infrastructure can sustain a human population but Mother Nature is going to try rectify matters every so often. Just like building on hurricane prone beaches is a retarded idea, but that doesn’t stop people.

Mother Nature will always claim her wins at times.

Preeeeeeeeeeeeeetty much.

I want to push back a little on the idea that forest management is a central issue in these fires. While the cancer of neoliberalism has definitely contributed to what is unfolding, ultimately forests would be better managed by simply leaving them alone: No roads, no cars, no powerlines or pipelines going through them. If you have ever been really deep in the forest or jungle you will notice that the ground is shaded and it is moist and cool there. The farther you get from roads the more true this is. These spots are basically impervious to the effects of forest fires. They are just too damp and there is no airflow to allow hot fires to build.

Roads, and other cutouts such as powerlines, act like the capillaries in your lungs; they feed air into wooded areas.



They dry things out and when there are fires they drive air into the fire like a bellows. California built too many roads and too many houses and they sucked all the water out of the ground to provide water to these new developments.

For the most part, these aren't really forest fires, these are fires along roads.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I know people are not talking yet about casualty numbers, but is there any way this hasn’t killed a whole bunch of homeless people/ drug addicts? I haven’t seen anything like buses rounding them up to evacuate, they would need something organized and that seems to be a critically missing skill for the people farming the homeless for government cash.

I would expect them to popping up on those day-after videos of the devastation, but there’s no people on the streets.

Maybe I missed it but it seems like a dog that isn’t barking.

the benefit of owning basically nothing is that you can just wander to a new location and be almost as well off as before.

 

[harmacist]

the religious retard larping in this thread is really great. can we all preach about god and morality on a site where we all gather to make fun of literal retards and drug addicts?

 

[Jace on ice]

I know people are not talking yet about casualty numbers, but is there any way this hasn’t killed a whole bunch of homeless people/ drug addicts? I haven’t seen anything like buses rounding them up to evacuate, they would need something organized and that seems to be a critically missing skill for the people farming the homeless for government cash.

I would expect them to popping up on those day-after videos of the devastation, but there’s no people on the streets.

Maybe I missed it but it seems like a dog that isn’t barking.

I largely expect this to play out like the Hawaii fires

Nobody died
A few dozen people died
Ok a hundred people died
Ok 2000+ people are missing but that doesn't necessarily mean they're dead

A few months after everyone stopped caring.

Ok a fuck ton of people died.

 

[Keystone]

Did you know that stupid environmental activists are actually one of the leading reason the US has such a problem with invasive species? They're responsible for shit like the Green Crab epidemic, Lionfish epidemic, the ongoing problems with bamboo in New York, Eucalyptus in California, and more. It's specifically the stupid ones, the ones who have a child's understanding of the natural world, who think nature good, kill thing bad, free thing good, even if freed thing fucking ecologically devastates an entire region.

Anyone familiar with invasive species knows that any one of these is like a fucking micro-apocalypse for everything in that ecology, but some of the greatest evils in humanity's history have gone hand-in-hand with good intentions and nothing shows it quite like parts of the environmental movement. I can't for the life of me find them, but I remember one shithead journalist going on about how cool and awesome Lanternflies are, or how the Carp are our friends, and finding myself very disgusted with us a species.

Chinks are the other 50% of the problem. Lanternflies from imported shit from China came here in 2014 and spread all over the east coast.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

No one is obligated to feel sympathy for others. I just hope your cheering for LA to burn due to an overgeneralized assumption isn't hypocritical.

If I was the president and China invaded California, I’d wait a couple months to try to recapture it.

The reason would be because after some CCP officers took forced organ transplants from Californians, it would be even easier to hate them, because they’d be part Californian

 

[lolwatagain]

I know people are not talking yet about casualty numbers, but is there any way this hasn’t killed a whole bunch of homeless people/ drug addicts? I haven’t seen anything like buses rounding them up to evacuate, they would need something organized and that seems to be a critically missing skill for the people farming the homeless for government cash.

I would expect them to popping up on those day-after videos of the devastation, but there’s no people on the streets.

Maybe I missed it but it seems like a dog that isn’t barking.

Nobody is driving through the wilderness, and a lot of the large homeless camps are under overpasses, along specific roads that have not yet burned, or in the hills.

 

[Heed Not]

The only thing that sucks about this is that a lot of small town housing markets are about to get obliterated. Somebody should really just classify Californians as outlaws and blanket pardon everyone everywhere for everything they might do to a californian-immigrant-purchased property in a non-California state for the next 30 years.

 

[Literally Fucked To Death]

I know people are not talking yet about casualty numbers, but is there any way this hasn’t killed a whole bunch of homeless people/ drug addicts? I haven’t seen anything like buses rounding them up to evacuate, they would need something organized and that seems to be a critically missing skill for the people farming the homeless for government cash.

I would expect them to popping up on those day-after videos of the devastation, but there’s no people on the streets.

Maybe I missed it but it seems like a dog that isn’t barking.

I'd assume the city skid row type just, walked away. They're not in cars so they can't get stuck on the road. Maybe some hitch hiked? But they probably could hear the evacuations and migrated north. That's what i'd do.

 

[blue gopher snakes]

Per WatchDuty: Fixed wing aircraft are returning to bases due to the wind. Don’t drink the water, it may not be potable anymore.

Per me: Power is still out for most people near me and we are now hearing that it might not return until Monday at the soonest. Downed lines from the winds are compounding the problem.

 

[Estate]

My reaction to California burning.

 

[Archeops]

Anyway, whats the ETA on niggers chimping out? they gotta be feeling the itch at this point allready.

A handful of people tried to set the hills near Studio City on fire last night (only a couple of homes burned) and people have tried to loot the burning remains in Palisades with 20 getting arrested over it.

I know people are not talking yet about casualty numbers, but is there any way this hasn’t killed a whole bunch of homeless people/ drug addicts? I haven’t seen anything like buses rounding them up to evacuate, they would need something organized and that seems to be a critically missing skill for the people farming the homeless for government cash.

I would expect them to popping up on those day-after videos of the devastation, but there’s no people on the streets.

Maybe I missed it but it seems like a dog that isn’t barking.

These areas aren’t big hobo hangouts, what’s more worrying is the possibility of the Eaton and Sunset fires being caused by druggies setting shit on fire because of drug-induced schizophrenia.

 

[A Man on Fire]

Came back to check on things. Ash everywhere, but the pajeet car dealers keep on smoking

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Another thing nobody has mentioned is how they'll even begin clearing these miles upon miles of burned out houses. Where will the landfills be? Will CA's wacko environmentalists even allow them?

 

[Whiskey]

Lesbians get it done y'all!!!

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https://www.pride.com/gay-news/lgbtq-fire-chief-kristen-crowley-palisades-fire

I can't tell if this is satire...

 

[lolwatagain]

Preeeeeeeeeeeeeetty much.

I want to push back a little on the idea that forest management is a central issue in these fires. While the cancer of neoliberalism has definitely contributed to what is unfolding, ultimately forests would be better managed by simply leaving them alone: No roads, no cars, no powerlines or pipelines going through them. If you have ever been really deep in the forest or jungle you will notice that the ground is shaded and it is moist and cool there. The farther you get from roads the more true this is. These spots are basically impervious to the effects of forest fires. They are just too damp and there is no airflow to allow hot fires to build.

Roads, and other cutouts such as powerlines, act like the capillaries in your lungs; they feed air into wooded areas.

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They dry things out and when there are fires they drive air into the fire like a bellows. California built too many roads and too many houses and they sucked all the water out of the ground to provide water to these new developments.

For the most part, these aren't really forest fires, these are fires along roads.
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Most of the hills that caught on fire aren't forests. They're hills that are covered in grasses and dead dry brush that haven't been cleared out for decades.

 

[Drive-by Farts]

I largely expect this to play out like the Hawaii fires

Nobody died
A few dozen people died
Ok a hundred people died
Ok 2000+ people are missing but that doesn't necessarily mean they're dead

A few months after everyone stopped caring.

Ok a fuck ton of people died.

Yes and since so many there are illegals literally no one will ever know where they went! It’s by design.