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[mota]

I never read or posted in whatever subforum koalas march is mod of and I glad I wasn't aware of it. Those tumblr gifs are horrendous.

The purpose of a six hour is exactly that, to take someone out of the conversation. Any mod can immediately start a six hour probation and then request a ban or whatever. Only admins can immediately ban/give more than six hours. So if someone is being disruptive they're shut up and then whenever an admin looks at the reports they can activate the probation or ban, or at least that was the original point before it became s dissent silencer.

 

[TiggerNits]

ZDR?

 

[HG 400]

D... Derek?

 

[TiggerNits]

D... Derek?

Pfft, like Derek Smart wouldn't use his own name as his U/N. But right now, I like him even more

 

[Charles A. Woodward]

ZDR?

FAU

 

[northstar747]

Can someone fill me in and the Derk Smart FAU connection?

 

[Cthulu]

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I'd dox him for $10 tbh

 

[TiggerNits]

Can someone fill me in and the Derk Smart FAU connection?

FAU banned derek and they seem to have some beef stemming from modding Games

 

[somewhereelse poster]

Can we put a halt on dropping the Koalas March dox? She's the absolute best moderator on SA right now if you want to have Lowtax serve you at a McDonalds on your way back from getting a lapdance from his daughter in ten years, and she seems like she's flighty enough that doxing her might scare her off.

Agree about your observation, but disagree on the goal. She was modded to appease the howling oppression brigade and instead of enforcing rules and moderating discussion, moderating opinion and protecting that safe space they've created. And as satisfying as it would be in the long term to see that backfire, her quick fall would be more immediately gratifying than SA's long slow one. It's important to rebuke this sort of bullshit when its in its infancy and chase them out of any safe spaces they try to create and force them to understand that that sort of garbage doesn't fly in the broader world beyond the walls they try to erect around themselves.

I say fuck her.

 

[as an SA refugee]

Can someone fill me in and the Derk Smart FAU connection?

A while ago, the Star Citizen thread got rolled into its own subforum in Games, with Derek as the mod.

FAU messed with it occasionally, for no other reason than FYAD concern trolls complaining about it being full of "people who never post anywhere else" and "being obsessed over jerking off to spaceships". In reality, it was a mock thread, like the Xbox one and many others that have fallen casualty to the Humor Cleanliness Brigade.

One day, some guy pretending he's a norwegian girl and using that to scam people out of money got "doxxed". Not by his true name, but by exposing the norwegian girl identity as a fake. FAU and co. flew in, banned Derek "for doxxing", shat all over the Star Citizen thread by FYADites and instituted ArfJason as the IK. Usual pattern.

A while later, someone paid for Derek's debanning (maybe Derek himself, maybe someone else), he got back, still as a mod, then FAU said it's a "caching error" or something along those lines, and demodded him, only Derek's mod flair remained somehow. Then after a while, finally got him demodded.

To FAU's credit, he butted out of the thread, reverted ArfJason's IK, and appointed thread regulars as the new mods, after people complained loudly enough. The FYAD concern trolls remained, however, and the thread's kinda shitty nowadays.

Sorry for the long post, that's about it.

 

[as an SA refugee]

Oh, and that's not the first time either.
That was the second or third attempt to kill off that thread/subforum.

 

[Anime is Blood]

Can someone fill me in and the Derk Smart FAU connection?

It's Star Citizen drama.

The abridged version is Derek Smart got buttmad at the wing commander guy sometime in 2015.

Early in 2016 the newest Star Citizen mock thread was in Games and FactsAreUseless kept closing it and probating people in it. Eventually he closed the thread entirely which didn't sit well with the crazies that live and breathe that thread so Derek Smart went straight to Lowtax. Since Lowtax likes Star Citizen mocking he gave Derek his own joke subforum and own joke moderator powers and re-opened the thread there.

FactsAreUseless and the thread assassination guys BBG and crew tried repeatedly to have the thread closed. FAU kept talking endless shit about how he didn't like the thread and didn't want it on the forums but couldn't override Lowtax.

Eventually someone pretending to be a 16 year old Norwegian girl that sold erotic calendars came to the thread, so Derek posted some Facebook links to prove it was a 40 year old man and FactsAreUseless immediately de-modded Derek and banned him for doxxing.

Ever since Derek has been pretty buttmad since he is that type of person. I think now the speculation is that FAU owns a bunch of autism chariots or is affiliated with Cloud Imperium Games in some way, so Derek wants to find out his doxx to prove himself right in the argument.

Tangentially related to all of this since a huge faggot mod has tried his best to eliminate discussion of something he doesn't like, and that thread has generated thousands of dollars in avatars (Someone paid $160 changing one goons avatars back and forth) and registrations of people coming to SA to read the best source of information on the game disaster since it's behind a paywall.

TL DR: Autism

 

[as an SA refugee]

TL;DR all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

 

[aquariumwater]

What's the deal with FYAD's obsession with the Star Citizen thread, anyway? The only thing I enjoyed about FYAD was the goonlulz thread, bc they caught all the very best autists and trannies, but the most recent goonlulz thread has almost exclusively been about Star Citizen.

 

[as an SA refugee]

No one cares about them anymore, that's the only place they could get some bites.

 

[somewhereelse poster]

What's the deal with FYAD's obsession with the Star Citizen thread, anyway? The only thing I enjoyed about FYAD was the goonlulz thread, bc they caught all the very best autists and trannies, but the most recent goonlulz thread has almost exclusively been about Star Citizen.

The same as FYAD's obsession with anything, really, I think. Causing drama by abusing their long beyond its expiration date status as the "cool kids" of the forums.

 

[Unpure]

This is from a few pages back, but it's worth commenting on for real. It's easy to say "6 hours is nothing, go read a book or whatever, can't you step away from the forums for that long?" And yeah, I agree that anyone who gets real-life super-upset over getting a six hour probe is a little spergy.

But when it happens over time and in a widespread fashion, it has a chilling effect on everyone feeling like they can have a free discussion of things. Whether or not it's "only" a six hour probation, the person has been removed from the conversation, in many cases until it has run its course. In fact, in most cases a six hour probation lasts longer than an actual ban, since there's no time limit on how quick you can shell out another ten bucks. And they've been given an example: express a point of view that contradicts the moderators and you get punished. How do you think that affects what someone will post in the future?

There is a pattern of people getting punished for expressing a different view than the moderators. Go look at the recent wave of posts that Koalas Marching probated people for. Look at these.

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Those aren't breaking any rules. They can't even be considered "white noise." There's a lot of probations like this. It's just punishing someone for having a different view or discussing something that the moderator doesn't like. Regardless of what you may think about the position being stated in these posts, in no way are they rule-breaking other than "the mod doesn't like what you are saying." D&D is the worst for this, but it happens elsewhere. Those aren't even the best examples, but they are the most recent. And anyone who posts on SA knows that this happens ALL THE TIME.

The end result of this, regardless of whether the punishment for wrongthink is "only" a six hour probation, is that people feel like they can't express a controversial opinion or express a viewpoint that the mods/admins won't like. At that point, the forums become an echobox, and they suck unless you really get off on just hearing your own opinions parroted back at you.

Yikes. Tough room!

OK I can tell you guys don't care for my comedy so I'm going to REAL POST for a change.

Listen, I understand the complaints about the way the forum is run. And yeah, sometimes I think the mods are a little to quick to shut down discussion of topics they find distasteful. It used to drive me crazy when they would shut down the doobie thread because they thought it was crazy. It bugs me when words like faggot or tranny are probatable. It also drives me crazy when I see readership of Gbs going down down down like a sinking ship because I love participating in threads and attempting to make good content but when there are so few people around, it makes that tough. I know there's plenty of reasons good posters are leaving but I know a factor for a lot of them is the mods shutting down discussion.

But eh, whatever. Things come and go.
Here's another thing, maybe a glimpse into the mind of a sa mod. Back when I had the star, I don't think I ever banned anybody and I did probations rarely. My thinking was I would just try to encourage what the kinds of threads I liked to read. I would do this by sticking what I thought was good and gassing threads that I saw were bad. I tried to limit my gassing to low effort or spammy type threads. My idea was that this would slowly morph Gbs towards the better.

Sounds good, and I'd say all the mods have a simular view point. But here's how it goes bad: I started viewing the forum like my own private rock garden or something, where I had to constantly tend to it to prune away the bad and water the good. I gassed lots of threads, tons of threads, desperately wanting to keep my hands on the wheel of comedy.

After a while, I rarely even looked at the mod queue to handle reports because I was so preoccupied with vetting and gassing threads. The one thing I was supposed to do as a mod I wasn't doing and instead I started multiple cold wars with posters who I viewed as "bad" because they were, in my view point, spamming the forum with tons of threads. I'd Gass em on sight and they'd come back just as quick with three more.

Eventually they demodded me, and I agree with their decision to do so.

This is the first time I've aired any of this out and my intent is not to try and get attention or anything, but just give a case study on how a mod (in my case a bad mod) might progress, and to hopefully lead you guys into, I dunno, cutting them some slack.

At the end of the day it's just a stupid website for making dumb jokes. It's not worth getting riled up about.

So in conclusion, I like your website here, it's funny. I like making fun of people and weirdos and I like the cool forum software. It's funny busting goons and mods chops about stuff. I understand the reason behind "doxxing" is to see the over reaction it takes. But think about how some of these people youre posting information on and humiliating are already half or fully nuts as is, is it really all that funny if it drives them to take their own life or someone else's? This stuff has real world consequences and if is just being done in the name of laughs it's honestly pretty sad.

OK real posting done.. Thank you for your time

 

[Anime is Blood]

What's the deal with FYAD's obsession with the Star Citizen thread, anyway? The only thing I enjoyed about FYAD was the goonlulz thread, bc they caught all the very best autists and trannies, but the most recent goonlulz thread has almost exclusively been about Star Citizen.

They have been in FYAD for their entire adult lives and can no longer troll outside of SA.

It's a 50/50 prospect because one day they will doing something good and be calling out the weirdos in ADTRW posting underage hentai and then the next day they will be killing a funny thread for problematic thought. It wouldn't be an issue if the admins didn't give them complete support.

It's really annoying to read though because they are basically troll necromancers bringing back shit like "u mad" and repeating the same posts hundreds of times. I think one guy has said "Make Sure to Call your Parents" 500-600+ times now.

 

[jace821]

Yikes. Tough room!

OK I can tell you guys don't care for my comedy so I'm going to REAL POST for a change.

Listen, I understand the complaints about the way the forum is run. And yeah, sometimes I think the mods are a little to quick to shut down discussion of topics they find distasteful. It used to drive me crazy when they would shut down the doobie thread because they thought it was crazy. It bugs me when words like faggot or tranny are probatable. It also drives me crazy when I see readership of Gbs going down down down like a sinking ship because I love participating in threads and attempting to make good content but when there are so few people around, it makes that tough. I know there's plenty of reasons good posters are leaving but I know a factor for a lot of them is the mods shutting down discussion.

But eh, whatever. Things come and go.
Here's another thing, maybe a glimpse into the mind of a sa mod. Back when I had the star, I don't think I ever banned anybody and I did probations rarely. My thinking was I would just try to encourage what the kinds of threads I liked to read. I would do this by sticking what I thought was good and gassing threads that I saw were bad. I tried to limit my gassing to low effort or spammy type threads. My idea was that this would slowly morph Gbs towards the better.

Sounds good, and I'd say all the mods have a simular view point. But here's how it goes bad: I started viewing the forum like my own private rock garden or something, where I had to constantly tend to it to prune away the bad and water the good. I gassed lots of threads, tons of threads, desperately wanting to keep my hands on the wheel of comedy.

After a while, I rarely even looked at the mod queue to handle reports because I was so preoccupied with vetting and gassing threads. The one thing I was supposed to do as a mod I wasn't doing and instead I started multiple cold wars with posters who I viewed as "bad" because they were, in my view point, spamming the forum with tons of threads. I'd Gass em on sight and they'd come back just as quick with three more.

Eventually they demodded me, and I agree with their decision to do so.

This is the first time I've aired any of this out and my intent is not to try and get attention or anything, but just give a case study on how a mod (in my case a bad mod) might progress, and to hopefully lead you guys into, I dunno, cutting them some slack.

At the end of the day it's just a stupid website for making dumb jokes. It's not worth getting riled up about.

So in conclusion, I like your website here, it's funny. I like making fun of people and weirdos and I like the cool forum software. It's funny busting goons and mods chops about stuff. I understand the reason behind "doxxing" is to see the over reaction it takes. But think about how some of these people youre posting information on and humiliating are already half or fully nuts as is, is it really all that funny if it drives them to take their own life or someone else's? This stuff has real world consequences and if is just being done in the name of laughs it's honestly pretty sad.

OK real posting done.. Thank you for your time

You should have said that shit when you were a mod.

 

[Charles A. Woodward]

Yikes. Tough room!

OK I can tell you guys don't care for my comedy so I'm going to REAL POST for a change.

Listen, I understand the complaints about the way the forum is run. And yeah, sometimes I think the mods are a little to quick to shut down discussion of topics they find distasteful. It used to drive me crazy when they would shut down the doobie thread because they thought it was crazy. It bugs me when words like faggot or tranny are probatable. It also drives me crazy when I see readership of Gbs going down down down like a sinking ship because I love participating in threads and attempting to make good content but when there are so few people around, it makes that tough. I know there's plenty of reasons good posters are leaving but I know a factor for a lot of them is the mods shutting down discussion.

But eh, whatever. Things come and go.
Here's another thing, maybe a glimpse into the mind of a sa mod. Back when I had the star, I don't think I ever banned anybody and I did probations rarely. My thinking was I would just try to encourage what the kinds of threads I liked to read. I would do this by sticking what I thought was good and gassing threads that I saw were bad. I tried to limit my gassing to low effort or spammy type threads. My idea was that this would slowly morph Gbs towards the better.

Sounds good, and I'd say all the mods have a simular view point. But here's how it goes bad: I started viewing the forum like my own private rock garden or something, where I had to constantly tend to it to prune away the bad and water the good. I gassed lots of threads, tons of threads, desperately wanting to keep my hands on the wheel of comedy.

After a while, I rarely even looked at the mod queue to handle reports because I was so preoccupied with vetting and gassing threads. The one thing I was supposed to do as a mod I wasn't doing and instead I started multiple cold wars with posters who I viewed as "bad" because they were, in my view point, spamming the forum with tons of threads. I'd Gass em on sight and they'd come back just as quick with three more.

Eventually they demodded me, and I agree with their decision to do so.

This is the first time I've aired any of this out and my intent is not to try and get attention or anything, but just give a case study on how a mod (in my case a bad mod) might progress, and to hopefully lead you guys into, I dunno, cutting them some slack.

At the end of the day it's just a stupid website for making dumb jokes. It's not worth getting riled up about.

So in conclusion, I like your website here, it's funny. I like making fun of people and weirdos and I like the cool forum software. It's funny busting goons and mods chops about stuff. I understand the reason behind "doxxing" is to see the over reaction it takes. But think about how some of these people youre posting information on and humiliating are already half or fully nuts as is, is it really all that funny if it drives them to take their own life or someone else's? This stuff has real world consequences and if is just being done in the name of laughs it's honestly pretty sad.

OK real posting done.. Thank you for your time