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REGENDarySumanai said:
Man, this must be a good moment to remove the trees in LA. Replace them with some hardy tree and then you solved a good portion of the problem.
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There isn't enough rainbows in the world for people who believe a massive and largely preventable catastrophe is grounds for self-reflection and policy change for leftoids.
 
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REGENDarySumanai said:
Man, this must be a good moment to remove the trees in LA. Replace them with some hardy tree and then you solved a good portion of the problem.
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You need some good European trees out there.

But this would be impossible, the eucalyptus would have released seeds into the ash by now, effectively you would have the vacuum the whole area since the seeds thrive in the ash.
 
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REGENDarySumanai said:
Man, this must be a good moment to remove the trees in LA. Replace them with some hardy tree and then you solved a good portion of the problem.
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It can regenerate from roots and it's something you also have to apply herbicide to as well. It's a literal zombie tree. Also, they are good at keeping any other trees from growing because they grow to be tall. It's possible to remove them all (they have the machinery and the chemicals to do so) but I would consider it impossible under the current administration.

I guess you could also use fungi but I'm not sure if the type of fungi that kills those trees is even present in the US.
 
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Necrosan said:
It can regenerate from roots and it's something you also have to apply herbicide to as well. It's a literal zombie tree. Also, that those trees are also good at keeping any other trees from growing because they are big. It's possible to remove them all (they have the machinery and the chemicals to do so) but I would consider it impossible under the current administration.
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I've seen people try to get rid of them, it's better to just give up.
 
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Overdrive MASK_de_SMITH said:
I have to agree with you. I want to be optimistic, but CA is never going to fix itself with all the issues it has.

The citizens there are overly trusting of their government, even when they've been consistently screwed by them and gaslit into thinking that their politicians have their best interest at heart. Meanwhile, the people have no sense of unity whatsoever due to their constant naval-gazing and shirking of prevalent issues. They look out for themselves and people like them who think like they do, and anyone else can fuck off and fend for themselves, like the homeless.

Meanwhile places like Japan that suffer from constant weather disasters have adopted a mindset where they try to help watch other's bscks and help one another when they can. It's no perfect, and this mindset often works against them, but it helps for disastrous situations like CA is facing right now.

But CA doesn't have any unity whatsoever. Just sheep mentality and total conformity. Honestly, they're as good as cooked over there, and it's hard to hold ot any hope for CA if things don't change internally.
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It's more cynical than that.

California has been locked in unassailable one-party rule since 1986 courtesy of their amnesty bill, which functionally guaranteed that Los Angeles and San Francisco dictate all matters in the state due to population concentration, and that initial sin was used to consolidate so many other problems within the state. Shit like California's "jungle" runoff system and attempts to push ranked-choice voting are ways of gaming the system in such a way that no one can put shit back the way it should be - and California used to very reliably be a red state until the amnesty bill functionally gave the dems de jour control of the state.

Back even 15 or so years ago, it was difficult - but not impossible - for an outsider candidate to cut their way through the bullshit and potentially fix things within the system - the candidacy of Schwarzenegger basically was all about this. But the Dems haven't sat idle - they've done everything they possibly can to keep the system as broken as humanly possible, lest the voters have a say on things the Dems don't want them to, as was the case with Prop 8.

At this point, California's only realistic way out of this comes from full-on federal investigations, internal attempts to break the state up (as recently happened with Baton Rouge), and far more extreme methods. It's fucking depressing.
 
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messiah complex said:
You need some good European trees out there.

But this would be impossible, the eucalyptus would have released seeds into the ash by now, effectively you would have the vacuum the whole area since the seeds thrive in the ash.
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Necrosan said:
It can regenerate from roots and it's something you also have to apply herbicide to as well. It's a literal zombie tree. Also, that those trees are also good at keeping any other trees from growing because they are big. It's possible to remove them all (they have the machinery and the chemicals to do so) but I would consider it impossible under the current administration.
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Oh for fuck's sake, California is going to be the next Centralia at this rate.
 
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quaawaa said:
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I bet that fire was started by a Chinese e-bike battery or space heater, the smoke detectors were non-functional because of who the tenants are, and the reason why the landlord let the building fall apart was because of rent control.
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That doesn't matter, high winds spreads fire to other structures, and that how we get a LA Fires tier happening in NYC.

The FDNY stays home. Shouldn't have vetoed the bill that authorized more firemen (yeah fuck firefighter, its 1984 speak) Gavin.
 
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mlanguishi said:
It's going to be ok everyone, the expert is there now.

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Serious question here. Is there somewhere his hands are supposed to go? Is he supposed to panic the moment he steps out of the vehicle? Start barking commands at whom ever personnel is near by?
The first look at a situation, the size up, is to be met with calm observation. This what I see. I do it, sometimes sticking my hand in my pocket as I process what the situation is and what my plan will be.

OP's (here) and OP" (X) take here is retarded. Just stupid, clearly showing a lack of how to do basic situational awareness.

Either show your experience, or reveal your stupidity. There is no middle ground.
 
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messiah complex said:
You need some good European trees out there.

But this would be impossible, the eucalyptus would have released seeds into the ash by now, effectively you would have the vacuum the whole area since the seeds thrive in the ash.
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Is there another invasive insect or species we could introduce to eliminate the eucalyptus and then have that backfire spectacularly too? Because if such a thing exists my bet is they'll do that. Reminds me of how Australia was cursed with those giant frogs that way. Maybe the eucalyptus was just paying the curse forward.
 
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I was initially leaning more towards sympathy in this scenario. I didn't like what I saw on here (and I presume elsewhere where there's a lot of Right-wingers posting anonymously) with the spite and joy. Like someone said earlier in the thread, joy in death and destruction is a sickness. The bitter irony here is that these people are unsympathetic because this ISN'T an act of God. If a nation (and I consider California to be as much of a nation as Canada, it has a population on par with Canada, a land area on par with Japan, and a fledgling national identity that comes from both its geographical isolation sitting at one end of flyover country with an insane ideology to form around) is so fucking retarded as to allow its forests to turn into a tinderbox, something completely predictable that nobody else in this country has problems with, and that is an act of God, then what the fuck was that one-in-a-thousand-year hurricane that dumped the whole Gulf of Mexico onto North Carolina until nothing was left?

It's not an act of God. It's an act of man. They hung themselves with their own rope.

But even then, a good third of LA County voted against the Democrats, and most Democrats are normal people. Even in Hollywood there are many normal and decent people. And the idea of happily trading other people's lives like it's some game to get the high score is sickening. I said in the thread about Helene, in reference to some ghoul rubbing his hands over Asheville being annihilated:

Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
So the entire thread is going to shit down your throat for this post, and rightfully so, but I want to respond in a more detached way. Moralfag without aggression.

I won't say that it's wrong to celebrate or cheer on the deaths of those you hate. It probably is, but it's not a standard I'm going to live by. I've been cheering on the Three Gorges Dam blowing for ages. I'm also malicious about Yankees and Californians getting hit with blizzards and wildfires. Now it feels unfair that this scenario would basically happen in my backyard and a small part of me feels some guilt about it like it's my fault for wishing it on others, although I know that's not the case (I'm nobody important enough for this to be a lesson for my benefit).

But in a case like this you've got a lot of decent people being swept up in it too, and even among those faggots, contemptible as they are, are still a lot of regular people that, were they your own neighbor or friend, you would see them as a person and not as a mook for Globohomo or whatever. I just think that in a disaster like this - natural, pointless, with no moral content or lesson to it, random death mindlessly dealt by nature - even the smallest "collateral damage" outweighs whatever malice. Could be 100 Antifa-sympathizing Communist shitheads from Asheville drowned and if 1 normal local died it'd be hard to justify the exchange, because unlike a battle or something nothing was proven by this. They died for reasons that are and always will be a complete mystery to us as the answer belongs only to God.
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And so on the first night of this I prayed for the people of California.

But it is very hard for me to draw any more sympathy now. Unlike Helene, there is a moral lesson to take from this, which is one about hubris (that you can just ignore a whole world's worth of experience in forestry management - including the Noble Injun that farmed the land for thousands of years - and try to fight the cycles of nature itself, and things will be fine), corruption and in no small part their own callousness towards the rest of the country. What sealed the deal for me was seeing that Biden is promising to cut them a blank check. Whereas North Carolina was the kind of place FEMA was theoretically made for - a place struck by a disaster so massive it could never handle it by itself, so alien to its landscape no preparations could realistically be made - this was entirely the responsibility of the Californian people in their failure to prepare for a thing that happens every fucking year. And yet despite that they'll take bread from the mouths of the poorer parts of this country (poorer in large part because of its exploitation by the rest of the country) to save the richest people, while North Carolina was left to hang, only taxed, only plundered, given none of the services that it paid into.

So to Hell with them. My very low account of sympathy is overdrawn. I hope as many of them fry, slow and painful, as possible and nothing is left to rebuild their lives.
 
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