Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

[AltisticRight]

did they do something to up the a-logging recently or is this just residuals from andy's 10 year history of doing dumb shit

- Their top paypigs got outed as nonces, including "Metokur Masochist" who invited them to a $25k+ Vegas party and donated through numerous sock accounts, he's just one of them.
- MM would use his paypig status to garner favours, such as forcing them to not cover Nicholas Rekieta.
- MM was "cut off" by PPP and Andy, however, it's all very dubious. He's been caught donating through socks, running sock accounts, and controlling the narrative.
- Andy still followed one of MM's socks, he was still in association with them on Steam. He claimed the Discord group was disbanded but evidently it wasn't.
- There's now a postshow with some sycophantic paypig that bought his used underwear or something. I didn't follow that part.
- The show sucks. They call LLC "fake", yet they tried to pull the same fake bullshit on DarkSydePhil, which blew up in their face.
- Their jannies are ban happy, causing unhappy newfag accounts to come here and mock them.

It is also extremely outlier heavy as the mean of the 10 pigs would be considerably lower if the number 1 spot were closer to 1700 or so.

In these so called predictive models, outliers don't really matter, but the dataset is too small so any blip would fuck something up. By the same reasoning you can call $0 average watchers an outlier, it's not.
That's why I did everything I can to give them the biggest benefits. Still, they're making peanuts. Kick sucks, there's lots of weird issues with the way they handle such data. Surely an account registered for a few days shouldn't be getting "11th month subscriber" badges. It's stupid shit.

We need something really funny, let's say someone was able to get to their backend to export these numbers, similar to how secureserver.tv got got. Then, I'll be able to run better numbers.

I'm generally a lot more forgiving than most and would like to see myself as being fair. To be fair to the two, they can have a decent life if they supplement the streaming gibs with part-time employment. If they work 3-4 days a week on top of that, they'll have a pretty comfortable life.

Edit: something else someone with lots of time can do is to run all their shows through an AI speech to text recogniser and extract instances of "subs, donos" and so on. The errors should even out. That's way beyond my $0 alogging fat lard and dumb tard budget.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

In these so called predictive models, outliers don't really matter, but the dataset is too small so any blip would fuck something up. By the same reasoning you can call $0 average watchers an outlier, it's not.
That's why I did everything I can to give them the biggest benefits. Still, they're making peanuts. Kick sucks, there's lots of weird issues with the way they handle such data. Surely an account registered for a few days shouldn't be getting "11th month subscriber" badges. It's stupid shit.

We need something really funny, let's say someone was able to get to their backend to export these numbers, similar to how secureserver.tv got got. Then, I'll be able to run better numbers.

I'm generally a lot more forgiving than most and would like to see myself as being fair. To be fair to the two, they can have a decent life if they supplement the streaming gibs with part-time employment. If they work 3-4 days a week on top of that, they'll have a pretty comfortable life.

If you have the time, I am incredibly interested in your take on my analytical method, which is the post just above your last post*. It is always fun to have a mathematician to mathematician exchange. If you don't want to break down specifics, even an overview of your thoughts on my methodology. Also, regarding the accounts that have a badge that drastically exceeds the time since account registration, I don't know if those subs get credited in month one or if they get trickled over time. I am uncertain to what degree this changes the analysis. I don't have a tight enough methodology to account for this.

 

[Max Caulfield]

Gay ass numbers

You forgot to factor in that ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP

 

[Londo]

Lol these fucking NERDS with their mathematical equations and scientific methods.

Haha jokes on you all I am 1000000 level IQ and smarter than you all. I have prepared a full breakdown of the KC numbers that isn't autistic as fuck:

Non autistic breakdown:

Spoiler: Breakdown

 

[Rick Nekieta]

You forgot to factor in that ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP

I did indeed forget to factor in that ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP. Good catch.

 

[Quintus]

I ALMOST made it to the four hour mark and I am unfamiliar which temper tantrum is being referenced. Refresh us please. I will amend this if I find the answer in the thread logs.

I'm referring to him complaining about having have an actual schedule.

 

[LilypaCastsUpper]

The show sucks. They call LLC "fake", yet they tried to pull the same fake bullshit on DarkSydePhil, which blew up in their face.

I think you mean LCL?? DSP criticizes Lolcowlive for being fake too, and the PPP x DSP show was even faker. I've heard Tommy C troll the shit out of Boogie for his barely legal GF and other super personal things. The King of Hypocrisy and his Royal Buffoon.

 

[Destiny's_Quasi_Phallus]

This is like when EDP got outed as a pedo and his subreddit turned from a fansub into a pure a-logging sub. In fact I can't think of any other instance of an eceleb having their fan community hub turning to an a-log hub like this.

when idubbz made the only fans videohis entire subreddit turned on him and started posting cuck memes. I know because i was there actively contributing.

 

[Nonronic]

Is anyone else having trouble downloading a couple of the Kick VODs? JDownloader is giving me "Host Problem?" for the Ralph Pillstream 1000 and Rekieta Foreclosed On streams.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

Very short numberfaggotry, I promise. I won't go whole hog.

Given the Pareto principle of 20% of client base giving 80% of revenue and that the Pareto principle is incursive to itself, we roughly .2^3 of the donors giving roughly .8^3 of the revenue. .2^3 = .008. .8^3 = 512. My previous estimative method had the top 10 paynigs giving 48% of the total. Lets just run on the probably rightful assumption that there are roughly 1250 accounts with subs, which tracks incredibly well with Balldo's Gates live unique viewer count that ranges between 900 and 1200 and that the top 10 of these 1250 do about half the revenue. Keep in mind that most of the people in chat with no gifted subs ARE RECIPIENTS OF GIFTED SUBS and their "x month subscriber chips" are already accounted for in the paypig calculations. Only a handful of ppl self-subscribe, as it has long been known to be unnecessary. Hell, paypigs make socks just to paypig more (not a joke). Using the Pareto principle, I decrease my predictive modeling of the total, outliers and all, counting the 2500 outlier and the non-subscribers, to sincerely and thoroughly believe that my conjecture that the 100- gifted sub community comprises around 20% of the total revenue and the top 33 donors comprise about 80% of the revenue, with donators 34-250 being statistically irrelevant (This tracks incredibly well with the observable chatter dropoff once Andy does the post show, as Balldo's Gate has previously noted). Anything beyond that is just recipients of gifted subs. I genuinely and more concretely have faith in my analysis that 40K/person/year holds up against other methods of modeling and accounts for the ENTIRE viewer base that isn't botted/a miscalculation on Kick's end. The Pareto principle, which accurately maps phenomenon across a variety of disciplines, also backs my previous analysis. It is my sincere and concerted conjecture that the Kick subs come to about 40K (likely just shy of it, given that I steelmanned everything and rounded always in their favor) per person per year prior to taxes, after the Kick cut. Kick alone is NOT making them rich and the sub bombs greatly distort the audience perception as to how much money they're making. This is extremely strong evidence that they don't have good war chests and only stream when money is needed, as everyone else has been correctly stating for years. I know you don't need data to draw this obvious conclusion, but the data DOES back it.


ADDED IN EDIT: ASHTON IS A 400 POUND WALRUS ON A STRING AND ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP ON 2/28/19

 

[AltisticRight]

I think you mean LCL?? DSP criticizes Lolcowlive for being fake too, and the PPP x DSP show was even faker. I've heard Tommy C troll the shit out of Boogie for his barely legal GF and other super personal things. The King of Hypocrisy and his Royal Buffoon.

My bad, yeah LCL. Medicare Masochist's Xitter sock account spoke about the DSP snakening. It's so fake and gay for a drama show to try and create drama themselves.

 

[All becomes gunt]

Is anyone else having trouble downloading a couple of the Kick VODs? JDownloader is giving me "Host Problem?" for the Ralph Pillstream 1000 and Rekieta Foreclosed On streams.

It's probably for the better. I guess the show is so bad it makes Kick glitch. Maybe it has something to do with ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMING CP ON 2/28/2019.

 

[Destiny's_Quasi_Phallus]

wow lots of breaking lolcow news happening right now... it's too bad there isn't an internet A-Logging show that could cover it... oh well...

ANDY WARSKI STREAMED CHILD PORN ON 2/28/19 AND HIS FAT SLAVE BOY PPP SWEEPS FOR PEDOPHILES WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDY

 

[Rick Nekieta]

I'll *try* not to mathfag for a while. I can get back onto the alogging that people enjoy, rather than the analysis of little general interest. That said, Andy and Ashton have been tripping up a LOT since the MM reveal. The initial Vegas story was nothing, until it led to the analysis of the proclivities of the top pigs, which are degenerate and disgusting as all hell. This is not surprising, given that ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP ON 2/28/19 and this is the kind of audiences that stick with a man like that, going so far as to engaging in extreme paypiggery to keep him close. Most of the alogs in this thread were fans two months ago. Show quality and show volume have been common points of disappointment from the current fans. The attempted snakening of DSP, which was ostensibly going to be some epic moment in sektur history fizzled because DSP, not only didn't sperg out, but is in complete denial that it is just "friendly" ribbing. The recurring pattern is that the first show after a break is sub-heavy (even then it is frontloaded in the first couple of hours), but the following shows are sub-light until their next break. If you strip all the overanalysis away, perhaps the most telling thing that anyone, fan or alog, picks up on is that they had amazing energy and frequency in October, only to falter since the Vegas stumble. The Vegas stumble was originally just about the talk of black tranny hookers and orgies. Even the tip of the iceberg killed shows for a week. The followup where positioning MM as a unique degen also killed momentum. Their attempts at "we are so back" fall into the same patterns of a few manic shows followed by significant time off. Cracks are showing. Warski rumors of relapse have also had the same effect. The 14 hour streams followed by many days off signal even to those who want to believe, that there are cracks in the faultlines. The inclusion of Psycho Gungnir clearly isn't helping them (although it is aiding the alogs). My point is that the cracks are showing in a more general capacity and they are showing the same early signs that started the Ralph downfall and the Rackets downfall.

 

[All becomes gunt]

and this is the kind of audiences that stick with a man like that, going so far as to engaging in extreme paypiggery to keep him close

I mean bro. It kind of makes sense. HE DID SAY IN THAT ACCURSED CP STREAM THAT HE DOES HAVE EVERYTHING ARCHIVED LOCALLY ON HIS COMPUTER. TO ALL OF US THIS PAYPIGGERY AND PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIP IS CRAZY BUT WHAT IF ITS NOT SO CRAZY AND ITS SOMETHING WAY MORE SIMPLE. OBVIOUSLY I AM JUST SPECULATING HERE. BUT WHAT IF HE IS SELLING THAT MATERIAL TO THESE PEOPLE AND THE PAYMENTS ARE LAUNDERED THROUGH THE SUPERCHATS WHICH IS WHY THEY DONATE SUCH EXHORBITANT AMOUNTS AND WOULD ALSO EXPLAIN PPP BEING SO COMPLICIT TO THIS AND BASICALLY JUST GOING THROUGH WITH EVERYTHING EVEN AFTER THE UNMASKING OF MM'S POST PUBLIC SWEEPING CONNECTION. PAYPIG PARASOCIALS WANT TO FEEL LIKE KINGS AND THEY WANT THEIR NAME HEARD WHICH IS WHY MM STICKING AROUND AFTER ALL THIS PUBLIC DESTRUCTION OF HIS IMAGE EVEN AS A FEINT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE PERHAPS IF THERE IS BACK ALLEY DEALINGS FOR THE ORIGINAL UNCENSORED CP MATERIAL THAT ANDY CENSORED AND LIVESTREAMED ON 2/28/2019 AND ADMITTED TO HOLDING A FULL ARCHIVE OF ON HIS COMPUTER.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

I mean bro. It kind of makes sense. HE DID SAY IN THAT ACCURSED CP STREAM THAT HE DOES HAVE EVERYTHING ARCHIVED LOCALLY ON HIS COMPUTER. TO ALL OF US THIS PAYPIGGERY AND PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIP IS CRAZY BUT WHAT IF ITS NOT SO CRAZY AND ITS SOMETHING WAY MORE SIMPLE. OBVIOUSLY I AM JUST SPECULATING HERE. BUT WHAT IF HE IS SELLING THAT MATERIAL TO THESE PEOPLE AND THE PAYMENTS ARE LAUNDERED THROUGH THE SUPERCHATS WHICH IS WHY THEY DONATE SUCH EXHORBITANT AMOUNTS AND WOULD ALSO EXPLAIN PPP BEING SO COMPLICIT TO THIS AND BASICALLY JUST GOING THROUGH WITH EVERYTHING EVEN AFTER THE UNMASKING OF MM'S POST PUBLIC SWEEPING CONNECTION. PAYPIG PARASOCIALS WANT TO FEEL LIKE KINGS AND THEY WANT THEIR NAME HEARD WHICH IS WHY MM STICKING AROUND AFTER ALL THIS PUBLIC DESTRUCTION OF HIS IMAGE EVEN AS A FEINT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE PERHAPS IF THERE IS BACK ALLEY DEALINGS FOR THE ORIGINAL UNCENSORED CP MATERIAL THAT ANDY LIVESTREAMED ON 2/28/2019 AND ADMITTED TO HOLDING A FULL ARCHIVE OF ON HIS COMPUTER.

I invite you to consider the following. There is NO LIMIT on how much you can paypig via gumroad. The minimum amount they set was 10 dollars. There is a 30 cent per transaction fee (which comes out to 3% IF it is only a 10 dollar transaction, this is not mathfagging) and the cut gumroad takes goes down as volume of transactions goes up. I would surmise that they are at the 5% level. They RAPE on inhouse sales (40%!!) but their standard paypiggery is just a nominal cut, like Kick. They do have paypal level fees as well, but it is single digit stuff. Interested parties can research the nuances. But the point is, you could opt to give Kino Casino 10000/mon on gumroad with gumroad doing minimal middling. I have often wondered why people in illicit businesses didn't just set up "photography patreons" of innocuous natural images as a front to sell drugs or whatever, because taste in art is the ultimate in subjective value. I've long wondered why creator support sites haven't been used to launder money for illicit businesses by guising them as "creator support."

https://kinocasino.gumroad.com/l/ibyq Please note that is 378 reviews, not 378 subscribers.

I can run estimates on their Kick and YT earnings, based on info out there, but gumroad does not inform me how many subscribers they have or how many contribute above the 10 dollar minimum. If you wanted to paypig the Casino at the very high level, gumroad will make that easy. Check out their gumroad to see what I mean. Link below. Even IF it is merely lawful but awful, the particularly embarrassing and disgusting proclivities of the pigs mean they already need to pay top dollar for validation and social acceptance, but it may indeed extend beyond what we can even see. The only downside to this avenue of piggery is lack of public acclaim and being denied the pants tingle they get when they hear their name shouted out. But, yes, all avenues of creator support mechanisms can be used to launder for illicit business models.

 

[Lone Conman]

PPP IS A 400 POUNDS WALRUS WHO EATS SUBS OUT OF PEDOPHILES' HANDS AND DOES TRICKS FOR THEM OTHERWISE TARDSKI WILL DENY HIM HIS WEEKLY ALLOWANCE.

On their next Vegas Orgy, it's PPP's turn to be in charge of virgin paypigs' penises. I bet you Warski was rewarded with a sub bomb for doing it on the last meetup.

and this is the kind of audiences that stick with a man like that, going so far as to engaging in extreme paypiggery to keep him close.

ANDY WARKSI'S CP STREAM was probably in their recommended videos on some illegal CP website and that's how they became fans in the first place.

I mean bro. It kind of makes sense. HE DID SAY IN THAT ACCURSED CP STREAM THAT HE DOES HAVE EVERYTHING ARCHIVED LOCALLY ON HIS COMPUTER. TO ALL OF US THIS PAYPIGGERY AND PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIP IS CRAZY BUT WHAT IF ITS NOT SO CRAZY AND ITS SOMETHING WAY MORE SIMPLE. OBVIOUSLY I AM JUST SPECULATING HERE. BUT WHAT IF HE IS SELLING THAT MATERIAL TO THESE PEOPLE AND THE PAYMENTS ARE LAUNDERED THROUGH THE SUPERCHATS WHICH IS WHY THEY DONATE SUCH EXHORBITANT AMOUNTS AND WOULD ALSO EXPLAIN PPP BEING SO COMPLICIT TO THIS AND BASICALLY JUST GOING THROUGH WITH EVERYTHING EVEN AFTER THE UNMASKING OF MM'S POST PUBLIC SWEEPING CONNECTION. PAYPIG PARASOCIALS WANT TO FEEL LIKE KINGS AND THEY WANT THEIR NAME HEARD WHICH IS WHY MM STICKING AROUND AFTER ALL THIS PUBLIC DESTRUCTION OF HIS IMAGE EVEN AS A FEINT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE PERHAPS IF THERE IS BACK ALLEY DEALINGS FOR THE ORIGINAL UNCENSORED CP MATERIAL THAT ANDY CENSORED AND LIVESTREAMED ON 2/28/2019 AND ADMITTED TO HOLDING A FULL ARCHIVE OF ON HIS COMPUTER.

Don't tell me he sends top 10 paypigs hard drives wrapped in his used underwears?


But seriously, WHY THE FUCK ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP AND SENT PART OF IT TO A GIRL WHO WAS 14 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME?!!!

 

[All becomes gunt]

I've long wondered why creator support sites haven't been used to launder money for illicit businesses by guising them as "creator support."

Because it's the perfect cover. Simple enough speaking this would indeed be the best way to make the purchase of THE ORIGINAL UNCENSORED CP MATERIAL THAT ANDY CENSORED AND LIVESTREAMED ON 2/28/2019 AND ADMITTED TO HOLDING A FULL ARCHIVE OF ON HIS COMPUTER. None would be the wiser about it either. You have to admit the circumstantial evidence is fucking staggering. You have a guy that claimed on that stream have a full archive of 35GB of CP on his computer ( and if he is willing to admit that and he is playing that loose with such material i'd wager he probably has more ), and around him are all these people that would have interest in such material, especially Metokur Masochist WHO IS ALSO THEIR BIGGEST PAYPIG. AND IS ALSO STILL IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

But seriously, WHY THE FUCK ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP AND SENT PART OF IT TO A GIRL WHO WAS 14 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME?!!!

Oh yeah there is also that part. He really doesn't find any issue with distributing to literally anyone. It's not a huge leap to say he'd share for someone that would pay a good price. And again this would be the perfect cover to launder the money.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Edit: something else someone with lots of time can do is to run all their shows through an AI speech to text recogniser and extract instances of "subs, donos" and so on. The errors should even out. That's way beyond my $0 alogging fat lard and dumb tard budget.

That's probably the only way to do it unless Kick changes to be like YouTube where the donations are part of the chat logs.

It doesn't really matter though since the Kino Casino model is a small number of paypigs. The top 10 weekly/monthly leaderboard keeps track of all of that already. It's not like most streams where the bulk of the income comes from people sending <=$20 donations at a time.

Also it's always possible that some of the paypigs like MM are sending in money privately now, why else would Warski still be following the guy's secret account? The funny possibility is that he's sending it to Warski without either of them telling PPP let alone sharing the money with Triple P.

- There's now a postshow with some sycophantic paypig that bought his used underwear or something. I didn't follow that part.

THEY'RE BOXING SHORTS!

 

[Rick Nekieta]

The funny possibility is that he's sending it to Warski without either of them telling PPP let alone sharing the money with Triple P.

Damned good point, hadn't considered that.