How did you become transphobic? - Assuming you were once at least neutral

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You realize they're generally just shitty people using their identity as a shield to protect themselves.
Some people you just have to be nasty to, unfortunately, because they will abuse your empathy otherwise.
Trannies are masters of that, and that's why I really, really dislike them. They get away with it too much.
 
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Some enjoy the writhing
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The entitlement, I suppose.

The "Transgender Tipping Point" was a decade ago. The transgenders took that as a signal, and tried to speedrun a massive realignment of language, thought, and society itself without putting in any kind of actual effort. Lacking the mass for a genuine movement, they used the concept of intersectionality to co-opt the efforts of others. Lacking the rhetorical ability to persuade others to their cause, they relied on badgering and intimidation.

As I said, entitlement from the bottoms to the tops.
 
  • Getting my language policed pissed me off:

    I'm not some "free speech enthusiast" who shouts the n word and faggot all day, but I like being able to speak in good faith without repercussions. Turning normal conversation into a minefield when a sillygendered alien enters the conversation was stressful and annoying. A group of circus freaks telling me how to talk was retarded, and seeing everyone bow to it slowly on the internet was worse.

  • Tranny Jannies ruining the Super Best Friends Play, Jerma, and Fighting Game community:

    My 3 "communities" I still hung onto from college that I have now ditched due to trannies ruling speech and making everything about them. My final straw was seeing a Post-Op Link (with surgery scars) from Breath of the Wild (in the crossdressing outfit ofc) posted onto the Jerma subreddit, and seeing everyone praise the disgusting scars and dystopian picture. Clown World wake-up call.

  • They accelerated the isolation and alienation of public spaces on the internet:

    If you wanted to be able to speak, you had to tiptoe around tranny language and praise them whenever possible. You get banned from twitch, YouTube, old Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit for being critical of trannies. This led to everyone being forced to love them and accept them for fear of being excluded from talking spaces. They spam "TRANS RIGHTS" into every chat and get a pat on the back. Naysayers get banned and harassed by these freaks.

  • Jordan Peterson:

    Love him or hate him, was one of the first rational, outspoken people discussing the other side of the Trans debate. He became a social martyr due to threats and harassment from the trannies, which bolstered his stance. When I paid attention to him, he was saying that the option for mental health guidance was disregarded and these nutjobs were fast tracked into surgery and hormone therapy in Canada. Therapists were not allowed to discourage patients from transitioning. Sound familiar?

This is what happens when you give the fucking weird kid with mental issues the reigns to society. What the fuck did you expect? The normal popular kids with all the cards in their deck become popular and social leaders for a reason. I legit want to normalize mental health counseling for these people. Children are now given the option to escape puberty by transitioning instead of toughing it out. They later kill themselves because all these "live and let live" faggots look the other way and let them fall to hell.
 
-Language policing
-A lot of them use being trans to get away with shit they really shouldn't
-Thing that never happens (trans kids and trannies being more likely to be predators) happens
-Those who transition tend to make worse/more sexual stuff post-transition
-For MTFs specifically, the HORRIBLE """feminine""" voice they put on. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me.

I had the misfortune of listening to a cover of a song by a tranny, and the voice he put for the female part made me seriously consider a-logging in his comment section. Didn't help that his singing in general was garbage, this guy had no range and half of the time it sounded like he was just speaking into the mic.
 
I don’t really care about it, heroin or hrt I don’t care what they’re injecting into their body as long as i don’t have to pay for it. They also castrate themselves which is a good bonus, unlike drug addicts who breed like rabitts .

They’re making me pay for it.
 
How did I become transphobic? Gee, let me count the ways.

It's pretty simple. I used to be an ally, but eventually I had to actually interact with trans culture. Transgenderism is a sickness of multiple factors of modern society. The for-profit healthcare complex, modern social networking, porn addiction and good ol' fashioned misogyny. I've watched society insist that there's no difference between sex and gender. I've watched as society pivoted from "there's no such thing as boy colors and girl colors" to "if your son likes pink, he's a woman." If you don't believe in the gender binary, you're "transphobic."

As someone who was on the Internet from a very young age, going through places I probably shouldn't have, the very first person I met who has since gone on to become transgender was a sissy fetishist. It's pretty clear that a lot of transgender males are deep down the AGP hole. People who enjoyed roleplaying "shemales" are now doing it outside their cybersex forums. It's just porn and anime addiction. I've also seen transgenderism sweep through Internet circles like, as that one post points out, crack in black neighborhoods in the 80s. When it swept through my online forums, the first people who transitioned were almost always the most aggressively autistic (or austically aggressive) and suddenly you couldn't call them out on their shit like you always had or you were "transphobic."

I've watched society decide that there's a new market for for-profit surgical procedures. Suddenly, there's a condition we shouldn't cure. Instead, we should enable it. I've also watched a dear friend transition and, while I was generally supportive at the time, the fact that they didn't improve and instead slid further into depression and social isolation was probably the first crack in my blind acceptance. Like @Zhores Medvedev said, I am deeply worried that my friend will kill themselves. And every day I have the thought that, were they to kill themselves, and I say that we should've talked them out of transitioning, that we all stood by and watched this happen, I'd be called "transphobic."

I think it's very stupid that society is ignoring the biological averages of men and women to allow trans people to play against women in sports. I think it's very odd that the trans people I've met in real life are always some combination of creepy, unsettling or weird. I think it's sad that there's this social contagion sweeping through autistic men and women telling them that the grass is greener on the other side. I think it's obvious that there are some male transgendered people who understand precisely that being trans is a social club to hit people with. I think it's unsettling that we're basically coddling and playing along with delusional people who've assembled their idea of masculinity or femininity from online pornography and some of the dumbest forms of mass media known to man, like mass-market manga and anime. I think in a few years we're going to look back on things like the harm that transitioning can do to people's bones as a sort of, oops, our bad, how could we know? Just like we did with lobotomies or shock therapy. But, hey, we weren't "transphobic."

It sucks being a man. It sucks being a woman. Especially in our porn-soaked, online hell of a society. People should be able to accept and work through these issues without being called "transphobic."
 
I've never backed or supported anything about the LGBTQIA+ because of my Christian faith. Supporting gay marriage I saw like many others like me, a slippery slope due to the nature of human beings and sin. The same with "don't be such a prude!!" when you shamed someone for being a pervert/degenerate and/or spoke against the existence of porn.

However, I've been a big supporter of "hate the sin, not the sinner" from the beginning so I've never 'hated' anyone for being gay or trans or whatever. I still love them as a person and fellow human being, as I do everyone else.
However that's not good enough for them and many people legitimately can't comprehend that you can love someone and still not support an aspect of their life/how they choose to live without being 'hateful' or 'mean'.

Their existence didn't bother me until it started to be shoved down my throat everywhere I went, until people started turning to extremes, until speech started being policed, until they started using the alphabet mafia as a shield against criticism, shame, their degeneracy and their crimes.
 
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I think in a few years we're going to look back on things like the harm that transitioning can do to people's bones as a sort of, oops, our bad, how could we know? Just like we did with lobotomies or shock therapy. But, hey, we weren't "transphobic."
Fuck the bones, its every single aspect of that persons life. You never really understand the value of life until you get older and it only gets more valuable the longer you live. They were both young when they killed themselves that they never really got to experience life and it was a twisted one at that. Life was not great for them already do to many factors, but then this LGBTQ shit and their full blown obsession with it was the death knell. They had a wonderful group of friends that they all distanced one by one until nobody was there to care anymore. Of course they did care, but at a certain point, all people will put a certain degree of distance to avoid your bullshit if its that bad, and holy fuck was it. So there they were no friends, shitty family, a complete fucked hormonal system that caused them all sorts of issues, but golly gee were they hekin valid!

Its almost reminds me of like those people with downs syndrome who will occasionally bag groceries at a store, where in order to make this person semi functional there are thousands of dollars spent and hundreds of man hours worked by doctors, coaches and the family in order to make this person have a facsimile of normalcy. The emotional taxation of dealing with this shit ways on your minds with magnitudes of pressure. The Hormones, the surgery, the outbursts, the multiple trips to the emergency room because something has gone wrong. A stich broke, something isn't healing right, I'm loosing my hair in my early 20s, suicide attempts , its all fucking maddening. They ruin themselves in every possible biological fashion and in doing so cause those close to them the emotional stress akin to dealing with someone with dementia or a fucking drug addiction. Then there gone.

When people do this to themselves in affects every single aspect of every single person they have ever interacted with. I deeply deeply hate was was peddled to my friends as a way to solve their problems. They never even got the chance to reflect on what they had done to themselves, it was impulse to impulse to impulse to overdose. No do-overs. Fuck.
 
You could say I was already primed and ready to hate them, since I hate faggots with an almost equal passion, but even if I wasn't disgusted by the whole alphabet mafia, I'd still end up hating troons because they are universally a nasty, evil group of people that only exist to make everyone around them miserable.

Everything they come into contact with they ruin, utterly.

They are a net detriment to everyone around them and any interests or hobbies they had before the metamorphosis are completely gone in lieu of them prowling around for children to groom.
 
It's not hatred perse just frustration in dealing with them.

I remember when people worked hard to dismantle stereotypes about boys playing with dolls are gay/want to be girls or girls playing with cars are gay/want to be boys and now it's taken as "they are trans" no nuance, no deeper thoughts just extremely superficial takes.
Trans losers are the ones pushing people into the stereotypical genderroles and I am just sick of it.

You can't hate them without them making it about them being trans. Fuck off with that shit, I hate you because you're an asshole who won't shut up about it. Fuck off with your trans bs we were talking about shit completely unrelated to that.
What do you mean "as a trans person..."you think it gives weight to the garbage you're spewing?? We were talkijg about how we never got to know wtf happened between Brock and prof Ivy tf does being trans have to do with that?!
 
M2F troons got into into my social circle through people I knew. I had no interest being friends with them but had to be nice to them to keep the peace with my peers. One of them was a terminally online freak who was always getting into fights on social media and every day there was a new drama with them. Constant victims mentality and also a leech on society who never worked and just claimed unemployment and government housing but will still complain about how bad Western capitalism is. They're also hypersexual creeps and also think being violent towards people is justified because society doesn't accepts them.

Eventually they start corroding the good will of people around them through being toxic and overbearing. They'll go after people if they think they've been slighted in anyway. Try and get people cancelled, shamed or kicked out of their friend circle. People just tap out and keep their mouths shut and try and keep their distance. Someone I knew had a troon try and destroy their life and had serious stuff made up about them trying to fuck them and their family over.

As for pooners, I don't take them seriously and will never see them as a man. So go mutilate yourself if you want.

There is no gain befriending troons. Like, there's no chilled, easy going, mentally stable versions of them. You always have to be on your guard and be careful about everything you say around them and it's just like a ticking bomb before they negatively fuck you over some how. As you get older, you realize that befriending people like this is potentially dangerous for your well being. It's like inviting junkies into your life. It's going to have negative consequences.

Just make friends with normal, straight people.
 
They accelerated the isolation and alienation of public spaces on the internet:

If you wanted to be able to speak, you had to tiptoe around tranny language and praise them whenever possible. You get banned from twitch, YouTube, old Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit for being critical of trannies. This led to everyone being forced to love them and accept them for fear of being excluded from talking spaces. They spam "TRANS RIGHTS" into every chat and get a pat on the back. Naysayers get banned and harassed by these freaks.
doubling on that unironically, whenever troons make up a critical mass somewhere they straight up hijack it and live out everyone who does not nods in tact to their schizo beliefs
 
When people do this to themselves in affects every single aspect of every single person they have ever interacted with. I deeply deeply hate was was peddled to my friends as a way to solve their problems. They never even got the chance to reflect on what they had done to themselves, it was impulse to impulse to impulse to overdose. No do-overs. Fuck.
Was watching squid game 2 recently, which has a troon character, and was bemused. They entered the game to get money to transition. So theyre killing other people in a death game, because their gender surgery is more important than other people's lives. I think its a pretty accurate metaphor.

But thats also where my 'live and let live' is challenged. We arent completely autonomous in our lives and are very interconnected. Transitioning isn't just a personal journey, its something which affects every single person around you as you say, and its not fair for one person to dictate the way an entire family relates to something.

You have the extreme cases with trans-widows, where the husband is incredibly selfish and self-centered and doesnt care about how it affects their kids, but even for trans-kids, or the incel-to-trans type, transitioning tears families apart and has a deferential affect on the entire families psychology.

You can't cause people to feel guilt tripped to allow you to transition with constant threats of suicide, and also play off that youre the victim and the parents, siblings, etc arent going to be psychologically affected. This is something said less, but theres also very real psychological affects on family members and someone entitled trooning out will also give parents depression, insomnia, anxiety, etc.

I say this as someone with a brother who had psychosis before trooning out, and took the kool aid. It chews me up at night, its destroyed my mom's psyche, my father's and I've seen their own mental health deteriorating for something that is not their fault.

If you want an equivilent, its sort of like: Imagine that you have a family member with mental issues- sad enough. They believe they'd be better off if they cut off both legs (insert Kelly Ronahan). You want to get them help, it kind of works. Then this ideology comes along. Then he hyperfixated on it, and its going to cure everything. Then it cuts off one leg, and you can't mourn his own loss, because if you do, youre bigoted. Then everyone in the world is demanding that you cheer this on, and that you need to make him a cake and encourage him to cut off the other leg. Its madness.

all while my brother is completely oblivious to what hes causing, and his demise is celebrated. I don't even wish him ill, I want him to be better desperately, but that shows how much I hate this ideology and those who enable it
There is no gain befriending troons. Like, there's no chilled, easy going, mentally stable versions of them. You always have to be on your guard and be careful about everything you say around them and it's just like a ticking bomb before they negatively fuck you over some how. As you get older, you realize that befriending people like this is potentially dangerous for your well being. It's like inviting junkies into your life. It's going to have negative consequences.
It was like this for me at one point, but Ill add something further. Gamed in an online community for years (since the mid 2000s) and someone in the community who was even a troon back then basically went full psychotic when the worst of the tranosphere became prominent.

They unironically had thicker skin in the 2000s, and if I knew any trannies then, I was definitely more neutral or sympathetic.

Regardless, this person went full woke leftard and started yelling at people for voting Trump, calling them /pol/tards, incels, fascists etc, and really drank the lib kool-aid in the mid 2010s.

When they insulted someone, the person would just respond with 'Okay Bruce', as their original name was known.

Drove the person mad, unironically. I tried to help them, to tell them to chill and stop starting shit themselves, and tried to ask people in our own community to chill a bit with their responses- not even in a forceful way, but just because I wanted peace in my community, regardless of who started it or who was at fault.

>insert me saying the wrong thing with 'Yeah we shouldn't be fast tracking kids, I think its a social contagion' a few weeks later, and theyre suddenly at my neck and rabid.

>insert a few more weeks later, and they have the libtard mods convinced they need to ban anyone from calling him Bruce and all of Bruces 'trolls', including myself

These people drive everyone away around them.
 
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The lolcow farm mtf thread radicalized me. Just seeing examples of troons being misogynistic and violent sexperverts over and over again turned my opinion from "Don't really care what people chose to do with their own body" into "Actually these men are fucking dangerous lunatics".
 
When I realized that they are porn-brained sex pests, the fact that they would do anything to ruin someone's life who doesn't agree with them, so just that they can have their "gotcha" moment, brainwashing children into their cult, and simply just making shit up and forcing people to agree with them. I got even more worried when they try to infiltrate education, science, and the government.

Also them spewing things like "we're trying to make the world a better place!" "we're creating a safe space" "we're trying to be kind", when they know they all have rotten souls.
 
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