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The Cum Beast said:
I never got the whole eurocentric argument for paradox games. For example, in Eu4 there plenty of content, though quality and quantity may very for pretty much the rest of the world, include the new world. It does this while also focuses on europe, particularly western europe and their colonialism and other events like the reformation. Though whether focusing on areas like random migratory natives for even a single dlc pack is worth it is up to you. And sure paradox focuses on other areas might be pushback form the "le eu4 is eurocentric" crowd but the content is there.
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The mission tree system was the big issue for EU4, in my opinion. It really widened the gap between nations that have custom content and nations that don't, with the latter feeling extremely barren in comparison. So everyone would whine and demand that the areas they want to play in should have their own mission trees, and saw any trees going to other areas as taking away development resources that could've been put towards theirs. The people that wanted focus outside of Europe would whine about Eurocentrism and insist their nation that spent the entire period getting stomped should get special focus, and the people who wanted focus on Europe would whine about how "no-one gives a fuck about random tribes in Africa".
Sooty Soot said:
was it a chick, a fag, or a tranny doing the sucking?
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My money's on a vacuum cleaner.
 
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Sooty Soot said:
was it a chick, a fag, or a tranny doing the sucking?
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Yep it was a chick
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Sooty Soot said:
It depends, in certain games I've seen the HRE blob and blob while in others I've seen the Abbasids collapse into a million pieces. The decadence mechanic for muslims doesn't result in too many collapses, anyways.
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Muslims are also too underpowered post-Holy Fury. Christians always blob into North Africa in any start after 1066, the big states always have 10k levies minimum (One thing CK2 did right was nerf levy sizes), and once a crusade gets called whatever poor Muslim is the target faces an immediate shitstrom of 60k levies at minimum gunning for them.

It's especially awful because even if all the Muslims join the defender, they are still outnumbered by a good amount. The update really helped the crusades mechanic, but it really should have implemented the same mechanics for the Muslims as well. It's gotten to the point that I just give up on the 1066 start because the HRE will turn North Africa into a German colony in about 50 years.

Also Paradox never fixed the bug that enabled HRE kingdom titular titles in the 1066 start, when those were only ever intended for the start with Otto the Great.
 
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Corpun said:
Muslims are also too underpowered post-Holy Fury. Christians always blob into North Africa in any start after 1066, the big states always have 10k levies minimum (One thing CK2 did right was nerf levy sizes), and once a crusade gets called whatever poor Muslim is the target faces an immediate shitstrom of 60k levies at minimum gunning for them.

It's especially awful because even if all the Muslims join the defender, they are still outnumbered by a good amount. The update really helped the crusades mechanic, but it really should have implemented the same mechanics for the Muslims as well. It's gotten to the point that I just give up on the 1066 start because the HRE will turn North Africa into a German colony in about 50 years.

Also Paradox never fixed the bug that enabled HRE kingdom titular titles in the 1066 start, when those were only ever intended for the start with Otto the Great.
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yea i noticed south italy and germany rape tunis and libya, but never algeria for some reason. and the pope has a 50/50 chance of picking either egypt or jerusalem for the first crusade, which either means the muslims can still bounce back or they'll get BTFOed depending on which target is chosen
 
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Sooty Soot said:
yea i noticed south italy and germany rape tunis and libya, but never algeria for some reason. and the pope has a 50/50 chance of picking either egypt or jerusalem for the first crusade, which either means the muslims can still bounce back or they'll get BTFOed depending on which target is chosen
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And if the Pope picks Jerusalem, Egypt is the next target anyways. It makes me miss the good old days when there were emndless jihads and crusades over exclusively Jerusalem and holding the fucking title was a literal death sentence. I'm hoping to find a mod that limits holy wars across the med, already running a few that break checksum so not like I'll be running any ironman games in the near future.

Also it's fucking retarded that when you mend the schism as the Orthodox Church, you don't get access to any sort of Great Holy War mechanic equivalent to Crusades or Jihads.
 
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Corpun said:
Christians always blob into North Africa in any start after 1066,
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Somewhat historically actually, the Norman Kingdom of Africa was a thing. The big problems are that Morocco is not the powerhouse it should be (especially as the Sahel slave/gold trade is completely unrepresented), Egypt rarely goes westwards and CK2's shortcomings about supply and warfare in general. It's a bit of a tragedy because the basic combat frame of CK2's is actually pretty involved and interesting (and not just two static lines) and they never once tried to improve it, peace deals or supply.
 
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The New Order Rises Again Is Now Public!
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Source Code

Now you too can relive the good old days of TNO!
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Unite Russia and forge a nation in your own image!

Keep the embers of liberty burning as America!

Save Germany and restore the Reich to glory!

Rule shadow and sow chaos as Burgundy!
The New Order: Rises Again
*New Content for Italian Algeria (ILG)
*Hidden Bohemian content restored (CZE)
*Changes From TNO: After Midnight
-Railways and supply hubs have been added for the post 1.11 supply system (train equipment is not used)
-Volunteers now travel much faster to their destination
-Warlord Unifiers now start with additional units and bonuses to prevent ai confusion and help russia and kazakhstan unify
-When all unifier tags are controlled by ai, a random unifier will be marked as the "chosen one" and will gain additional bonuses
-Laws have been slightly rebalanced
-In preparation for future content, Taboritsky's death no longer automatically triggers the After Midnight collapse
-Morocco will no longer break off from Iberia if its territory isn't fully controlled by Iberia
-Invading Muskowien during Speer's Slave Revolt is now easier
-China's research slots are now capped at 4
-For now, air equipment uses vanilla units
-Generals can now command 36 divisions by default (mainly for tags with few generals)
-Burgundian System now uses a darker shade of purple
-White Finland has been deleted
-Air Assault (heli infantry) no longer use the special forces cap
-AI will always deescalate in ww3 event chains (will readd setting later)
*Bug Fixes
-Various crashes have been resolved
-Iberia will no longer annex half the world upon defeating Morocco
-In case OMO does not form the divine mandate, siberian wasteland tags are now properly included in warlord expansion
-Not taking Zhukov's regional diplomacy focuses will no longer lock you out of completing his super-regional tree
*Known issues
-Total OFN victory during the South African war is bugged
-Changing to air view from the bottom right sidebar sometimes crashes the game
-Attempting to create a new air group crashes the game
-Conservative coup for Speer and militarist coup for goering can lock Germany out of regaining control of the RKs
-The Diplomacy country list tab is broken
-Country selection screen takes longer than usual to load
-Some gfx does not appear properly in the linux version of hoi4
-ILG doesn't have an opening screen (will add soon)
-Man the Guns equipment designer button in the production tab is invisible (but still works)
-Carriers don't hold air wings (they crash the game when they do)
Rises Again is still farm from finished and still has a lot of bugs. Bug reports and feedback are greatly appreciated

Thank you to everyone in this thread, without you this fork would never have been created.
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GoodWinSon said:
The New Order Rises Again Is Now Public!
1736633715579.jpeg

Source Code

Now you too can relive the good old days of TNO!
1736634980671.jpeg

Unite Russia and forge a nation in your own image!

Keep the embers of liberty burning as America!

Save Germany and restore the Reich to glory!

Rule shadow and sow chaos as Burgundy!
The New Order: Rises Again
*New Content for Italian Algeria (ILG)
*Hidden Bohemian content restored (CZE)
*Changes From TNO: After Midnight
-Railways and supply hubs have been added for the post 1.11 supply system (train equipment is not used)
-Volunteers now travel much faster to their destination
-Warlord Unifiers now start with additional units and bonuses to prevent ai confusion and help russia and kazakhstan unify
-When all unifier tags are controlled by ai, a random unifier will be marked as the "chosen one" and will gain additional bonuses
-Laws have been slightly rebalanced
-In preparation for future content, Taboritsky's death no longer automatically triggers the After Midnight collapse
-Morocco will no longer break off from Iberia if its territory isn't fully controlled by Iberia
-Invading Muskowien during Speer's Slave Revolt is now easier
-China's research slots are now capped at 4
-For now, air equipment uses vanilla units
-Generals can now command 36 divisions by default (mainly for tags with few generals)
-Burgundian System now uses a darker shade of purple
-White Finland has been deleted
-Air Assault (heli infantry) no longer use the special forces cap
-AI will always deescalate in ww3 event chains (will readd setting later)
*Bug Fixes
-Various crashes have been resolved
-Iberia will no longer annex half the world upon defeating Morocco
-In case OMO does not form the divine mandate, siberian wasteland tags are now properly included in warlord expansion
-Not taking Zhukov's regional diplomacy focuses will no longer lock you out of completing his super-regional tree
*Known issues
-Total OFN victory during the South African war is bugged
-Changing to air view from the bottom right sidebar sometimes crashes the game
-Attempting to create a new air group crashes the game
-Conservative coup for Speer and militarist coup for goering can lock Germany out of regaining control of the RKs
-The Diplomacy country list tab is broken
-Country selection screen takes longer than usual to load
-Some gfx does not appear properly in the linux version of hoi4
-ILG doesn't have an opening screen (will add soon)
-Man the Guns equipment designer button in the production tab is invisible (but still works)
-Carriers don't hold air wings (they crash the game when they do)
Rises Again is still farm from finished and still has a lot of bugs. Bug reports and feedback are greatly appreciated

Thank you to everyone in this thread, without you this fork would never have been created.
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Someone should show PinkPanzer this. Do you think he will be happy to see this?
 
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GoodWinSon said:
The New Order Rises Again
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Considering it's built from an earlier version of the mod and the mod's creators, there was a missed opportunity to call it something like "The New Order: Original Rise" to have the acronym be an anagram of troon.

Props though, I only have experience modding CK2 when I played it a few years back, but always found Paradox's engine to be quite fickle or at least that version of it at the time.
 
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HamEnjoyer said:
Considering it's built from an earlier version of the mod and the mod's creators, there was a missed opportunity to call it something like "The New Order: Original Rise" to have the name be an anagram of troon.

Props though, I only have experience modding CK2 when I played it a few years back, but always found Paradox's engine to be quite fickle or at least that version of it at the time.
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“The New Order: Detransition Edition”

“The New Order: Deadnamed”
 
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GoodWinSon said:
The New Order Rises Again Is Now Public!
1736633715579.jpeg

Source Code

Now you too can relive the good old days of TNO!
1736634980671.jpeg

Unite Russia and forge a nation in your own image!

Keep the embers of liberty burning as America!

Save Germany and restore the Reich to glory!

Rule shadow and sow chaos as Burgundy!
The New Order: Rises Again
*New Content for Italian Algeria (ILG)
*Hidden Bohemian content restored (CZE)
*Changes From TNO: After Midnight
-Railways and supply hubs have been added for the post 1.11 supply system (train equipment is not used)
-Volunteers now travel much faster to their destination
-Warlord Unifiers now start with additional units and bonuses to prevent ai confusion and help russia and kazakhstan unify
-When all unifier tags are controlled by ai, a random unifier will be marked as the "chosen one" and will gain additional bonuses
-Laws have been slightly rebalanced
-In preparation for future content, Taboritsky's death no longer automatically triggers the After Midnight collapse
-Morocco will no longer break off from Iberia if its territory isn't fully controlled by Iberia
-Invading Muskowien during Speer's Slave Revolt is now easier
-China's research slots are now capped at 4
-For now, air equipment uses vanilla units
-Generals can now command 36 divisions by default (mainly for tags with few generals)
-Burgundian System now uses a darker shade of purple
-White Finland has been deleted
-Air Assault (heli infantry) no longer use the special forces cap
-AI will always deescalate in ww3 event chains (will readd setting later)
*Bug Fixes
-Various crashes have been resolved
-Iberia will no longer annex half the world upon defeating Morocco
-In case OMO does not form the divine mandate, siberian wasteland tags are now properly included in warlord expansion
-Not taking Zhukov's regional diplomacy focuses will no longer lock you out of completing his super-regional tree
*Known issues
-Total OFN victory during the South African war is bugged
-Changing to air view from the bottom right sidebar sometimes crashes the game
-Attempting to create a new air group crashes the game
-Conservative coup for Speer and militarist coup for goering can lock Germany out of regaining control of the RKs
-The Diplomacy country list tab is broken
-Country selection screen takes longer than usual to load
-Some gfx does not appear properly in the linux version of hoi4
-ILG doesn't have an opening screen (will add soon)
-Man the Guns equipment designer button in the production tab is invisible (but still works)
-Carriers don't hold air wings (they crash the game when they do)
Rises Again is still farm from finished and still has a lot of bugs. Bug reports and feedback are greatly appreciated

Thank you to everyone in this thread, without you this fork would never have been created.
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Seriously, dude, this is good work. In a month you, by yourself in your spare time, have done more for TNO than the "official" dev team! Did you put this on the Steam Workshop?
 
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yydszmiteg2 said:
TNO was what brought me to the farms years ago on my old account, back when Slackjawedman and Gone Ham were dunking on the troons. It's surreal to see a tranny free version. Funny what you can do when you don't have a bunch of faggots weighing you down. Very nice.
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We've sure come a long way to get to this moment.
 
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