Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[The Foxtrot]

I don't trust anyone who thinks lore is a shackle restraining 'their creative brilliance' rather than a trust they have received from previous creators and a foundation to build on.

I personally think that (reasonable) limitations enable creativity...and that people who talk about "their creative brilliance" are retarded copycats.

 

[Ghostse]

James Mangold's ‘Star Wars' Movie Is Set 25,000 Years Before ‘Phantom Menace' So That It's Not ‘Handcuffed by Lore': Then ‘You Can't Please Anybody'​

I don't trust anyone who thinks lore is a shackle restraining 'their creative brilliance' rather than a trust they have received from previous creators and a foundation to build on.

Mangold, If you are such a creative genius, why make a star wars film instead of your own original IP?

 

[AnsemSoD1]

This series is so fucking gay now, there's too many mystery meat bitches and hoes.

 

[Screamer_2]

"You can't please anybody" is kind of a retarded sentiment. It means you're unsuited, incapable or unwilling to try and please people. It's probably that weird place of thinking fans want retarded fan service. Then when they are annoyed at it, thinking, "well we tried to please them."

What on earth did the sequels do to try and please anyone? Look how that worked out.

I get not wanting to be completely limited to the letter of some EU book of lore, but the attitude should be to try and please the hardcore fans, but not limiting it to the exclusion of the wider audience. I'm not a hardcore lore fan of anything, but I really appreciate watching something when you can tell there's a deep lore and thought to it.

Like most genre IP stuff in Hollywood, this shit just comes off as people who aren't really fans, don't really care who want to do their thing and will blame the fans they're not trying to please when no one likes it.

 

[Ghostse]

What on earth did the sequels do to try and please anyone?

They put a british girl with no tits, no ass, unable to close her mouth and made her the #2 OP character in star wars right behind Ashoka and Kathleen Kennedy was EXTREMELY pleased she had a character to self-protect to.

 

[GlupShitto]

Honestly as much as I know I'll probably end up with egg on my face for this, I'm cautiously optimistic. I really dig most of Mangold's filmography and I really enjoyed A Complete Unknown. As long as he can avoid making the first Jedi a strong and independent black woman and that's why attachments are forbidden or some dumb nigger shit like that, I could see this being pretty good.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Honestly as much as I know I'll probably end up with pie on my face for this, I'm cautiously optimistic. I really dig most of Mangold's filmography and I really enjoyed A Complete Unknown. As long as he can avoid making the first Jedi a strong and independent black woman and that's why attachments are forbidden or some dumb nigger shit like that, I could see this being pretty good.

The first jedi will literally be this and yes, there will very likely be dumb nigger magyckx involved.

 

[GlupShitto]

"You can't please anybody" is kind of a retarded sentiment. It means you're unsuited, incapable or unwilling to try and please people. It's probably that weird place of thinking fans want retarded fan service. Then when they are annoyed at it, thinking, "well we tried to please them."

What on earth did the sequels do to try and please anyone? Look how that worked out.

I get not wanting to be completely limited to the letter of some EU book of lore, but the attitude should be to try and please the hardcore fans, but not limiting it to the exclusion of the wider audience. I'm not a hardcore lore fan of anything, but I really appreciate watching something when you can tell there's a deep lore and thought to it.

Like most genre IP stuff in Hollywood, this shit just comes off as people who aren't really fans, don't really care who want to do their thing and will blame the fans they're not trying to please when no one likes it.

Tbf TFA's entire thing was trying to appeal to people who saw Star Wars in 1977 and proceeded to hate the PT because it was different. That's why the movie opens with some old guy saying this will begin to make things right and why every alien is a puppet or costume and why it avoids acknowledging the prequels in any way shape or form. It's also why it's a beat for beat retelling of A New Hope. I personally think that was a retarded move, but when TFA entered development, the kids who grew up with the PT were still kids and we hadn't seen the appreciation renaissance yet since that started in around 2015 with Prequel Memes getting big.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Tbf TFA's entire thing was trying to appeal to people who saw Star Wars in 1977 and proceeded to hate the PT because it was different. That's why the movie opens with some old guy saying this will begin to make things right and why every alien is a puppet or costume and why it avoids acknowledging the prequels in any way shape or form. It's also why it's a beat for beat retelling of A New Hope. I personally think that was a retarded move, but when TFA entered development, the kids who grew up with the PT were still kids and we hadn't seen the appreciation renaissance yet since that started in around 2015 with Prequel Memes getting big.

Total. RLM. DEATH. I hope these fat faggots enjoy burning in Gehenna.

 

[Adamska]

James Mangold's ‘Star Wars' Movie Is Set 25,000 Years Before ‘Phantom Menace' So That It's Not ‘Handcuffed by Lore': Then ‘You Can't Please Anybody'

So the man who cried about being old, and who's made two movies bitching about being old, is now bitching and crying about how people thought his latest crying about being old was shit.

What a fucking baby.

Honestly as much as I know I'll probably end up with pie on my face for this, I'm cautiously optimistic. I really dig most of Mangold's filmography and I really enjoyed A Complete Unknown. As long as he can avoid making the first Jedi a strong and independent black woman and that's why attachments are forbidden or some dumb nigger shit like that, I could see this being pretty good.

He made Indiana Jones 5, so fuck no lol.

 

[GlupShitto]

Total. RLM. DEATH. I hope these fat faggots enjoy burning in Gehenna.

Agree but it predates them tbf and prequel hate was so engrained in mainstream cultural consciousness pre-2015. So many sitcoms, late night talk shows, stand up comedians, and even official Star Wars productions did jokes about the Prequel Trilogy and Special Editions being bad, often focusing on Jar Jar and shit. Not to mention the George Lucas raped our childhoods types.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Agree but it predates them tbf and prequel hate was so engrained in mainstream cultural consciousness pre-2015. So many sitcoms, late night talk shows, stand up comedians, and even official Star Wars productions did jokes about the Prequel Trilogy and Special Editions being bad, often focusing on Jar Jar and shit. Not to mention the George Lucas raped our childhoods types.

I hope these people all enjoy getting raped by niggers.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

It's called first impressions, and guess what the stormtroopers did that sold their first impression despite the pratfalls George had them do from time to time? Be really good at wiping out the Tantive IV's guards efficiently. And then later on turning Luke's uncle and aunt into a burned set of skeletons.

Someone said it about a new hope but that entire film the empire feels untouchable. Their destroyer (one of the smaller ships in a navy) is so huge it pales in comparison to the rebels ship. If that's what they call a destroyer what do their battleships look like?

The heroes spend their entire time running away from stormtroopers and barely get a few of them, and because we just saw the first scene we know why they don't try to fight.

Up until endor the empire feels like the only reason it hasn't wiped out the rebels is that the rebels are so good at hiding and running.

Not even doing guerilla tactics but just running and surviving, like the humans in the first Terminator.
Meanwhile it seems any dope could win against a battle droid.

 

[Screamer_2]

Honestly as much as I know I'll probably end up with pie on my face for this, I'm cautiously optimistic. I really dig most of Mangold's filmography and I really enjoyed A Complete Unknown. As long as he can avoid making the first Jedi a strong and independent black woman and that's why attachments are forbidden or some dumb nigger shit like that, I could see this being pretty good.

Unless that stuff about Disney realising they've gone too retarded with this stuff is true, it almost certainly will be the first true Jedi is a black woman. The first Sith will be a white man. Potentially raised as siblings by a single black mother. That's the kind of basic thinking Hollywood does.

That aside, let's run the retarded Hollywood writers algorithm. 25,000 years ago in Star War.

The design language will be medieval Europe. The galaxy will be run by a religious order inspired by the Catholic church. Let's call them the Magisterium. They have limited access and ability to access the force which they use to maintain their grip on power. Women are forbidden from using the force. Which will have a different name, let's call it the threads, The villain will be someone high up in the Magisterium who is studying the Threads and growing in power.

There will be a secret order of BIPOC woman, including a trans woman, who will study the threads in secret. Women who use the threads will be referred to as witches. Early on in the film we'll see a witch getting burnt at the stake. There'll be an order of nuns with witches in their ranks who have infiltrated the Magesterium and work to subvert it. As the bad guys strength in the dark side of the threads grows, so does the good side in the witches, especially in our main black girl. She will rise up, be the "FORCE" for change, and topple the Magisterium. Allow a female uprising in society to found the Galactic Republic. While the witches refuse to take power and become the Jedi who will only use their powers for peace and justice in the galaxy. Not for power.

 

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James Mangold's ‘Star Wars' Movie Is Set 25,000 Years Before ‘Phantom Menace' So That It's Not ‘Handcuffed by Lore': Then ‘You Can't Please Anybody'

Didn't Lucas already make this movie?

 

[William Murderface]

Another thing I have a problem with AOTC is that it need some reshoots to address the complete 180 Padme had with suddenly falling in love with Anakin near the end of the film because of what happened.

1. Telling the guy that won’t stop flirting and creepily looking at me and confessed to killing innocent women and children Tuskens that any relationship we would have will destroy our careers and dreams.
2. ???
3. I’m starting to have feelings towards Anakin, who just confessed to killing a village of Tuskens, and now in love with him.

Go back and rewatch the confession scene where he tells her he just killed all those Sand People. The expression on her face is "oh my god, I'm in love with a human time bomb."

But he's not supposed to have regular emotions like normal people. He's just supposed to let stuff slide or push it down deep, and when his mother is murdered it all comes out. The Jedi training wasn't set up for that, and it was his mother and that's part of the set up for ROTS: Anakin will do anything for those he loves, up to and including betraying the Jedi for Padme, but his lust for more power, which in his mind is only so he can protect those he loves, ends up driving her away. It's the Greek tragedy thing, and it shows Yoda and the Jedi Code were right. If they had gotten Anakin as an infant, they could have trained him properly all along, but they got him when he was already forming his identity and he missed those early lessons.

That's Yoda's fear with Luke. Yoda and Obi-Wan had no choice but to hide the twins, but once they start training Luke and he insists on facing Vader on Bespin and then on trying to redeem his father, they're afraid he's going to make the same mistake and turn to the Dark Side in an effort to save his loved ones. On DS2 Palpy even tries to goad him into turning to the Dark Side by saying the only way he can save them is to turn. But Luke turns left where Anakin turned right and it ends with Palpy getting tossed down an elevator shaft and Anakin returning after all.

Pretty good results for someone who was only going to be trained to be a human weapon Yoda and Ben could use against Palpy and Vader.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I agree with most of that, but I still think George's opinion on Mara Jade and jedi marriage as a whole to be gay.

 

[Weltraumfürst]

Honestly as much as I know I'll probably end up with egg on my face for this, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Same. I didn't even hate Indy 5, much to my own surprise. Also, setting the movie 25000 years away from the OT gives at least the sliver of a possibility to fit in with the EU, which is my absolute minimum requirement to consume Disney Star Wars in any way.

I don't believe it and I think the movie is going to be terrible, but a man can hope.

 

[Ensok]

Anakin brings it up himself in a way too, although you can tell he's mostly joking around and trying to make excuses when he says that Jedi are "Encouraged to love" but just in a specific way. I do think most of the EU writers and things got it wrong but the reason they did what they did was because they're not writing books on philosophy or trying to come up with some real world organization, they're making interesting stories. So Luke never getting married or having love interests isn't interesting. And things like romance, having children, that sort of drama, is a huge part of that and something that fans will clamor for. So you had a lot of people who wrote later stories about Jedi, Luke's Jedi, where they were supposedly "fixing" the old ways of the Jedi, who were wrong about love in the days of the Old Republic. Which kind of misses the point that no, the Jedi weren't actually wrong about that, they were just wrong about a lot of other things. Jolee Bindo is a good character to look at when it comes to this misconception the writers have since he also talks about the same kind of stuff when it comes to love.

 

[GlupShitto]

I've been rewatching The Mandalorian and was thinking about how Cara Dune might come back now, but then it dawned on me that they fired Gina Carano for the Holocaust thing and not the tranny thing but pretended it was for the tranny thing to avoid making people notice how much power Jews have.