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[Mister Fister]

And the next fire, when all your equipment is eroded to unusability? You clearly have never worked around machinery.

Salt water eats through steel faster than your mom around cocks.

 

[Garlic Salt]

Um zir? can you provide a source of these so called "skeletons" you zaw I don't care about your sob story...

Maybe you should try reading the thread. Just a suggestion.

This has the typical retards out of the woodwork talking about modern day slavery.

I've never seen anyone ask the actual prisoners how they feel about these programs. It's always just the normal slap fights about Commie shit, like wages and how they hate prisons in general.

I know they're criminal scum and this is California, but these are the lowest security risk and most well behaved prisoners, along with this program being a way to rehabilitate that people always bitch about.

Genuinely don't get the teeth gnashing over this other than it's Tankies trying to make their normal abolish prisons arguments.

Exactly. It is extremely infuriating when someone tries to make a tragedy about themselves. I have no love for LA and have wished it to slough off into the ocean for most of my life, but I also understand that normal people live there downhill from the people I wouldn’t miss.
Going back to the inmates helping the firefighting efforts; they are low risk and aiming to reenter our society at some point. What better perspective could you give a miscreant aiming to rejoin society beyond assisting in a gigantic tragedy?
The faggot earlier that said prison shouldn’t be “rewarding” has clearly never tried to better his own life and is fine with his tax dollars paying to feed and house inmates indefinitely.

 

[BikeLock]

And the next fire, when all your equipment is eroded to unusability? You clearly have never worked around machinery.

If you do this magical thing called "preventative maintenance" after you run sea water through it, you won't have these issues.

Do we really have to pretend that sea water pumps do not exist, specifically for this thing?

 

[CharlesBarkley]

If you do this magical thing called "preventative maintenance" after you run sea water through it, you won't have these issues.

Do we really have to pretend that sea water pumps do not exist, specifically for this thing?

Last time I checked, oil rig legs are made out of clay, tungsten and POWERFUL BIPOC LABOR.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Why do people like you want prison to be a reward

Prison is about rehabilitation dumbass. Why have it and not just execute people if we don't expect people to be rehabilitated. Again these are the lowest level offenders, the DUI or drug possession types. The ones that were a bit too mouthy to a cop or the judge and got the boon thrown at them. The Null level ones who said the wrong pronouns and it got out of hand.

The only thing California is doing is taken advantage of how often people got the book thrown at them.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

If you do this magical thing called "preventative maintenance" after you run sea water through it, you won't have these issues.

Do we really have to pretend that sea water pumps do not exist, specifically for this thing?

No no, see, it's better to leave the entire state to burn down, otherwise we might not have the equipment to put out the fires that start on the ruins after they've been overgrown with dry foliage.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

If you do this magical thing called "preventative maintenance" after you run sea water through it, you won't have these issues.

Do we really have to pretend that sea water pumps do not exist, specifically for this thing?

There's also the issue of everything you spray that seawater on being immediately destroyed. At least with freshwater there's a chance of drying some stuff out. Not seawater.

[EDIT: Whoever rated that dumb has never seen what saltwater does to a PCB]

 

[Orange Rhymer]

There is no excuse for embezzling the Water Bonds .
Criminals.
LA could have built 3 desalination plants with the amount raised - and still offered fresh water at a rate lower than charged today.

No water in hydrants is murder. The citizens and Fire Dept. assume water in a hydrant system. This kind of surprise is criminal neglect - and people died.

(I think CA building codes require in-house sprinkler systems and those were dry as well)

 

[BikeLock]

There's also the issue of everything you spray that seawater on is immediately destroyed. At least with freshwater there's a chance of drying some stuff out. Not seawater.

If the spread of the fire is stopped, who cares if what was put out was destroyed, it was on fire being destroyed.

The goal is to put out the fire and stop the spread, not to save what is doused in water, which is all gonna be turbo fucked even if it was fresh water.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

This has the typical retards out of the woodwork talking about modern day slavery.

I've never seen anyone ask the actual prisoners how they feel about these programs. It's always just the normal slap fights about Commie shit, like wages and how they hate prisons in general.

I know they're criminal scum and this is California, but these are the lowest security risk and most well behaved prisoners, along with this program being a way to rehabilitate that people always bitch about.

Genuinely don't get the teeth gnashing over this other than it's Tankies trying to make their normal abolish prisons arguments.

Lol. No.

I don’t care if relatively low risk prisoners volunteer to do it, but the idea that there’s a massive pool of low risk California prisoners is most likely misguided, since this is the place where shoplifting up to $1k was decriminalized and run of the mill burglar drug addicts just live in cardboard favelas in major cities

Also, it’s a sign of general mismanagement and tells the lie about claims of good preparedness. They can’t afford to hire and retain real firefighters

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

They've issued "particularly dangerous situation" language about the wind today and tomorrow.

The ominous “particularly dangerous situation” warning was first issued by the local National Weather Service office in October 2020, and then in December 2020 — and then not again until 2024.

Looks like tomorrow may be particularly bad. Stay safe, Kiwibros and Kiwifamilies. Don't light a cigarette or make any sparks while outdoors.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

Hahahaha, you all really have no clue how the American prison system functions or why it exists and it really shows.

The corrupt state that you all can’t decide if you want burned down or if you want to suck the cock off of it routinely imprisons people and rips their lives away for nothing or less than nothing. I don’t think you all grasp that there are more morally bankrupt people in your own social circles than most minimum security prisoners.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Should've broke out the M58 MICLIC on day one to flatten lines of houses. But we probably sent all of them to Ukraine three years ago.

 

[Rick's Beef Wellington]

Hahahaha, you all really have no clue how the American prison system functions or why it exists and it really shows.

The corrupt state that you all can’t decide if you want burned down or if you want to suck the cock off of it routinely imprisons people and rips their lives away for nothing or less than nothing. I don’t think you all grasp that there are more morally bankrupt people in your own social circles than most minimum security prisoners.

This is like the "everyone's a liberal until they get mugged" mentality. If you or someone you care about haven't been fucked over by a malicious or incompetent legal system then you're free to have your fantasy that everyone in jail or prison deserves to be there and should get $1/hr to avoid being outright slave labor.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Hahahaha, you all really have no clue how the American prison system functions or why it exists and it really shows.

The corrupt state that you all can’t decide if you want burned down or if you want to suck the cock off of it routinely imprisons people and rips their lives away for nothing or less than nothing. I don’t think you all grasp that there are more morally bankrupt people in your own social circles than most minimum security prisoners.

“meth is free speech”

Sounds about right for a Californian

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@Rick’s Beef Wellington

Normal people being oppressed looks like fines piling up until you’re bankrupt, not getting prison time in a state that hates giving prison time

 

[mindlessobserver]

Going to assume you are a foreigner since you are clueless about the implications of Malibu Barbie and why she's hated.

Malibu Barbie replaced the standard "beach Barbie" design in the early 70s and became THE definitive version of Barbie of the decade and influenced all later Barbies for several decades afterwards. It was the equivalent of liking the Avengers but only being able to buy the abomination that is the Brian Bendis New Avengers, as Hasbro retooled the Barbie line to focus nearly exclusively on the Malibu Barbie subline. To the point that you could not find a regular non Malibu Barbie even if you tried for a decent stretch of time during the heyday, and was satirized in Adams Family Values with Morticia sympathizing with Debbie when she explains her start of darkness was caused by her parents buying her a Malibu Barbie instead of a regular Barbie

I now know more about barbie then I ever intended to know. Worse, I can never share this eldritch lore as people will question why I know it.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

This opinion piece in the NYT goes hard.

Los Angeles Is Being Crushed Under the Weight of Inaction​

We got the evacuation alert on Wednesday night. The fire came out of nowhere and threatened to sweep through Hollywood. I pulled our son out of the bathtub. We rushed into the car and drove north, past two other fires, through smoke and sirens, gridlock and chaos, flames on the horizon in all directions.

People keep saying the scenes out of Los Angeles look like something from a movie. Except they don’t, not really. Movies need a protagonist. Every on-screen apocalypse has a leader. So, where is ours?

Fires have wiped out entire communities. Thousands have lost their homes. Many more are displaced and looters run rampant, taking the personal property of those lucky enough to have any. The steady stream of alerts from Watch Duty, a wildfire-tracking app, ding as I type this, new fires igniting, existing ones spreading, winds picking up again. Will the latest alert say that our neighborhood, our street or our school is next?

I would love a deus ex machina to change this story-line or for the real-estate developer and would-be-mayor Rick Caruso to divert the dancing fountain at his mall, The Grove. For now, I’d settle for some reassurance that there is a plan. That it’s going to be horrific, but that we will get through this. Los Angeles will endure and rebuild. Together. For someone to, you know, lead.

As any screenwriter will tell you, a protagonist does not need to be perfect. We actually prefer that they be flawed, as long as they are ours.

I can’t keep up with Rudy Giuliani’s criminal indictments, but after Sept. 11, America’s mayor stood at Ground Zero and assured a broken city that the terrorist attacks would only make us stronger. Will someone — anyone? — stand in the detritus of the Pacific Palisades or Pasadena and say the same about Los Angeles?


In 2005, after widespread criticism of the response to Hurricane Katrina, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré took charge in New Orleans. Then-Mayor C. Ray Nagin called Honoré, “a John Wayne dude,” who “came off the doggone chopper and started cussing and people started moving.”

In those dark early Covid months, Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York didn’t deliver niceties. (I’m not sure he’d know how.) But his daily briefings became essential. That is, before Mr. Cuomo resigned, amid allegations he downplayed Covid deaths at nursing homes and engaged in sexual misconduct, which he denied.

It’s not that Los Angeles lacks heroism. The city has stepped up where elected officials have not. From firefighters and first responders to everyone who has opened their homes, volunteered and pitched in on GoFundMe pages, I’ve never seen such unity. But if leadership is that Churchillian combination of confident words and decisive action, Los Angeles has seen neither.

Is the Aurora Borealis Really That Mind-Blowing? Or Is It Just Your Cellphone Photos?​

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When Mayor Karen Bass returned from a previously scheduled trip to Ghana, she held a brief, defensive news conference and told residents they could find emergency resources at “URL.” She had to quiet a public squabble with her fire chief, telling reporters at a joint news conference on Saturday that she and Chief Kristin M. Crowley are in “lockstep.”

On Saturday, she said on X, “We will get through this crisis, together.” On Sunday, during a news conference, Ms. Bass vowed to “make sure that Los Angeles comes out of this a much better city.”

Will these efforts put Angelenos at ease? On Sunday, a petition to recall Ms. Bass “due to her failure to lead during this unprecedented crisis” had over 100,000 signatures.

In a viral video, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California, in aviator sunglasses, looked to me like he couldn’t wait to get back in his idling S.U.V. as an anguished Angeleno told him her community had been destroyed and implored him for help. He did make time to do a lengthy interview with “Pod Save America,” in which he defended his record and response to the crisis, explaining that he “wasn’t getting straight answers” from local officials. How about we Pod Save Los Angeles first?

President-elect Donald Trump, meanwhile, instigated a schoolyard squabble, calling the California governor “Gavin Newscum” and blaming the devastation in Los Angeles on Democratic policies.


Despite what X will have us think, history shows Americans are pretty forgiving in a crisis. We’re willing to make sacrifices and overlook mistakes as long as we feel like someone is giving it to us straight. But we are getting neither poetry nor prose. Our city is being reduced to ash and we’re being governed by puerile social media posts and presumably by President Biden, but honestly, who knows?

I’ve watched all of this enraged, but also beside myself. Why is it that the town that gave us Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman and Will Smith (OK, there was The Slap but he still saved the world) cannot find a lead character to try to save us from this catastrophe? This state loves a charismatic action hero so much that it birthed The Terminator’s political career.

California has always been a beast to govern, with nearly 40 million people and interests ranging from farmers in the Central Valley to billionaires in Silicon Valley. The state has elected strong leaders in the past. Love them or hate them, you can’t say that Ronald Reagan and Jerry Brown didn’t take charge. But the dominance of a single political party in recent years has narrowed the pool of tough public servants.

Meanwhile, Los Angeles, a sprawling multiethnic collection of disparate suburbs, is not known for citywide civic engagement. City residents become animated about hyperlocal issues such as neighborhood zoning and often tune out issues affecting the greater L.A. area. Beverly Hills and other affluent areas operate as municipalities and cannot vote for city leaders.

Unlike New York City, where politicians must master the art of retail politics, Los Angeles city is so vast — 503 square miles — that local officials interact with constituents mostly through T.V. and radio. They’re not forged in the daily crucible of the tabloid press like New York City leaders, who are used to taking daily hits and then getting their eyebrows threaded. Los Angeles’s elected officials, by comparison, operate in Bubble Wrap. Many seem, to risk sounding like a Yankees fan, soft.

I am not calling for a bully, but people who successfully lead through epic disasters have a dollop of despot. I suspect Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, a.k.a. Stormin’ Norman, who led with a whiteboard and authority during the Persian Gulf war, would have made his interns cry. That’s OK. We don’t need cuddles. We’re terrified.

Every day we watch our city, our communities, our livelihoods burn. At least 24 people have died and an estimated 12,000 structures have been destroyed. Without leadership, we try to find reliable information on WhatsApp chats and neighborhood Facebook pages. (I told you, it’s bleak.)

At the moment I do not care who did or did not cut funding for which water or fire services or whether the smelt is a thing or if the wind ate your homework. We are heartbroken, suffocating in toxic air and crushed under the weight of inaction.

I want someone to step in who cares more about saving the city than saving their careers. We need someone to stand with authority in front of a whiteboard and to tell us the plan. I’d take Arnold Schwarzenegger appearing in front of the Eaton blaze and taking over. He did tell us he’d be back. At this point, I’d even take a Cuomo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/opinion/los-angeles-fires.html

https://archive.ph/cdtIx

 

[Balr0g]

LA could have built 3 desalination plants with the amount raised - and still offered fresh water at a rate lower than charged today.

And if you're concerned about using "evil, nature destructing power from coal, oil and nuclear energy" You could power the desalination plants with solar or wind power considering how hot and windy it is around LA. Right? Right?

 

[CharlesBarkley]

And if you're concerned about using "evil, nature destructing power from coal, oil and nuclear energy" You could power the desalination plants with solar or wind power considering how hot and windy it is around LA. Right? Right?

Imo just put a gigantic hamster wheel powered by gay public sex and incentivize a few bucks for a public man on man sodomy session. You could power the entire state of California with a small group of people from San Francisco forever.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

I'm a faggot

Yes we can tell based on your deep knowledge and giving a fuck about specific types of Barbie dolls