Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

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I rarely, if ever, recommend that you watch or read anything that I post. This is one of those rare occasions where I am going to insist that you take the time to listen to this:
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is it just me or is he admitting that the covid vaccine is causing cancer (in children, no less) at 37:30?
 
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Apparently the Times is reporting that one of Bass' campaign promises was that she'd stay in the country and not travel internationally if she were elected LA Mayor(she was previously a Representative and known for doing a lot of advocacy travel back and forth from Africa and it was an election concern). Besides the embarrassing Ghana absence she's been out of the country 4 times since elected, including the Paris Olympics. Niggas just out here LYIN'.

It's not even a fire issue, if she'd lie about something that simple and easily checked, what else can you trust her with? California promises, lol.
 
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During Katrina the Red Cross gave everyone $2000 debit cards and that was 20 years ago. Of course those led to the highest revenue months in the history of Gulf Coast casinos but that's not the point.
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You can just bet that government officials look back at that 2k and became stingy over it specifically because they all went to a casino. Which they should have done. Hurricanes fucking suck to deal with.
 
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Apparently the Times is reporting that one of Bass' campaign promises was that she'd stay in the country and not travel internationally if she were elected LA Mayor(she was previously a Representative and known for doing a lot of advocacy travel back and forth from Africa and it was an election concern). Besides the embarrassing Ghana absence she's been out of the country 4 times since elected, including the Paris Olympics. Niggas just out here LYIN'.

It's not even a fire issue, if she'd lie about something that simple and easily checked, what else can you trust her with? California promises, lol.
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Ms. Bass was accustomed to circling the globe as a Democratic member of Congress and of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and had spent decades working on U.S.-Africa relations. It was one of the most absorbing parts of her political career, she told The New York Times in an interview on Oct. 17, 2021, at her home in the Baldwin Vista neighborhood of Los Angeles.

“I went to Africa every couple of months, all the time,” she said, adding, “The idea of leaving that, especially the international work and the Africa work, I was like, ‘Mmm, I don’t think I want to do that.’”

She ultimately decided that she did, telling The Times that if she was elected mayor, “not only would I of course live here, but I also would not travel internationally — the only places I would go would be D.C., Sacramento, San Francisco and New York, in relation to L.A.”

That pledge has been spectacularly broken.
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Film threat actually had a good discussion on The fire.


One thing I didn't know is that many of the houses in the Palisades were built 70 to 100 years ago and are part of generational inheritance for the families there.

Another quirk of California law is that the property taxes are based on the price of the property AT SALE. Which means these multi million dollar properties were paying the value of the land at the start of the 1920s. Now that they have burned though any new reconstruction will have to pay modern valuation in property tax.


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Haramburger said:
Apparently the Times is reporting that one of Bass' campaign promises was that she'd stay in the country and not travel internationally if she were elected LA Mayor(she was previously a Representative and known for doing a lot of advocacy travel back and forth from Africa and it was an election concern). Besides the embarrassing Ghana absence she's been out of the country 4 times since elected, including the Paris Olympics. Niggas just out here LYIN'.

It's not even a fire issue, if she'd lie about something that simple and easily checked, what else can you trust her with? California promises, lol.
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She is the sacrificial mutt.
 
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Haramburger said:
Apparently the Times is reporting that one of Bass' campaign promises was that she'd stay in the country and not travel internationally if she were elected LA Mayor(she was previously a Representative and known for doing a lot of advocacy travel back and forth from Africa and it was an election concern). Besides the embarrassing Ghana absence she's been out of the country 4 times since elected, including the Paris Olympics. Niggas just out here LYIN'.

It's not even a fire issue, if she'd lie about something that simple and easily checked, what else can you trust her with? California promises, lol.
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I will give her the Paris Olympics as that is expected. The Mayor or whatever of the next host city is there for the hand-off. Legit mayoral duty. All the rest crap.
 
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Orange Rhymer said:
Quick question: The property taxes on most of those houses are over $100,000 annually.
A lot of people pay those on a monthly basis.

Does a homeowner have to still pay with these levels of criminal mismanagement?
Do you have to pay if your property, neighbors, and township are burned to ash?
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Property taxes are paid twice a year for the assessed value from the prior year. The new assessment will go down to land value.

In the case of a mortgage it’s super common to have an escrow amount where you pay each month. This amount is not the same as the owed tax amount because the escrow company likes to have a little bit of extra. Waiving these payments is a matter between the owner and the bank. The state can’t do much about it.

ETA: assessed value isn’t the same as market value. In California, the assessment can only go up by so much, and it gets ‘rubber-banded’ up to market value whenever the house is sold.
 
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genericlurker777 said:
You can just bet that government officials look back at that 2k and became stingy over it specifically because they all went to a casino. Which they should have done. Hurricanes fucking suck to deal with.
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That $2k was from the Red Cross, totally private. FEMA (the gov't) didn't give anyone anything back then.
 
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Orange Rhymer said:
Quick question: The property taxes on most of those houses are over $100,000 annually.
A lot of people pay those on a monthly basis.

Does a homeowner have to still pay with these levels of criminal mismanagement?
Do you have to pay if your property, neighbors, and township are burned to ash?
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Short answer: yes

Long answer: yes, with qualifications. You can apply for a reassessment against "the house isn't there no more" and they'll do something (usually the gov't just grants it for everyone in the destroyed area)

But practically, you can ignore property tax for quite awhile before anything happens, and it can be "fixed" by the courts later.

https://www.boe.ca.gov/proptaxes/disaster-relief.htm has more details, but it's county by county.

In general with the government it's better to keep paying and fight to get it back than to go into arrears, but property tax is one of the most lax (because they know where the property is).

Remember that most of these mansions have value in the land, not the structure.
 
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With the current drought conditions and the allure of loot I'm kind of surprised that we haven't seen alot more arson, maybe it will start to pick up since the fires are starting to get under control and the opportunity for looting is decreasing.


There were pictures of houses burned down to the foundation, absolutely nothing left, and not 5 feet away there is a beautiful green lawn that would make Hank Hill proud. Those standing trees and green lawns were kept well watered. I though Cali had some kind of law/ordinance in place that limited water use for landscaping due to the drought? If anyone is familiar with the water situation feel free to correct me. Maybe it doesn't apply to LA because droughts are for poor people.
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And if you look at the destruction, those houses that obviously cheated on the restrictions and had well watered lawns were more likely to survives. As they had a non flammable buffer zone around the house.

Let this be a lesson that every over reactive government regulation is ill thought out and will have a far more damaging side effect than anyone predicts. It happens every fucking time. Government regulations are all based on "1 dude thinks it's a good idea and nobody asks any questions"
 
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mindlessobserver said:
Another quirk of California law is that the property taxes are based on the price of the property AT SALE. Which means these multi million dollar properties were paying the value of the land at the start of the 1920s. Now that they have burned though any new reconstruction will have to pay modern valuation in property tax.
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Not quite. It's the value as of 1976 (or at the last sale post-1976).

And 2020 Prop 19 allows the 1976/last sale values to continue for a rebuilt house lost in a disaster.
 
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mindlessobserver said:
Film threat actually had a good discussion on The fire.


One thing I didn't know is that many of the houses in the Palisades were built 70 to 100 years ago and are part of generational inheritance for the families there.

Another quirk of California law is that the property taxes are based on the price of the property AT SALE. Which means these multi million dollar properties were paying the value of the land at the start of the 1920s. Now that they have burned though any new reconstruction will have to pay modern valuation in property tax.


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The They firefighter clip looks so fake (they said so in the video) but it is hilarious that the doubt is still there that it could be real... If the wobbly AI artifacts werent there.

It is fake, right guys people?
 
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