Bad webcomics

[Ultra Ping]

Don't they usually go for fangames? There's like 50 different Pokemon webcomics I can look up right now that actually make the designs look like Pokemon, if you're that worried that Nintendo is going to come for you personally, you're kind of a pussy.

I don't know, I'm not a faggot man child that likes pokemon.

 

[Anonitolia]

Don't they usually go for fangames? There's like 50 different Pokemon webcomics I can look up right now that actually make the designs look like Pokemon, if you're that worried that Nintendo is going to come for you personally, you're kind of a pussy.

These fan comics can also have print runs if they're successful enough, none of which have ever been struck down by Gamefreak or Nintendo. I don't know why they have such sticks up their asses about fangames. I guess because they could pose more direct competition to the mainline games?

 

[Two Dollars]

I checked VGCats for the first time in probably four years to see if he sperged out about Trump winning, and there are a bunch of changes. The site got a complete overhaul, and now opens with an 18+ disclaimer. There are multiple other sites that Scott’s also running, one of which is about Canadian politics (I guess that’s where he dumps political stuff now?) and one looks to be an “I heckin’ love science” sort of thing. He’s experimenting with a bunch of other stuff like making small web games, some music, something AI-related… and most shocking of all, he brought back Super Effective. For two pages, with the last one being posted a couple months ago, but still.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I checked VGCats for the first time in probably four years to see if he sperged out about Trump winning, and there are a bunch of changes. The site got a complete overhaul, and now opens with an 18+ disclaimer. There are multiple other sites that Scott’s also running, one of which is about Canadian politics (I guess that’s where he dumps political stuff now?) and one looks to be an “I heckin’ love science” sort of thing. He’s experimenting with a bunch of other stuff like making small web games, some music, something AI-related… and most shocking of all, he brought back Super Effective. For two pages, with the last one being posted a couple months ago, but still.

I'm surprised the stuff is still running. I mean Iwas surprised like maybe 10 years ago now when I saw it at a gaming convention booth thing but like I've rarely heard people talk about it after a certain point in time online despite the guys comics being really popular for a while during the 2000s.

 

[Cave Fisher]

Man, I was all about VG Cats back in the day. I don't really know what's going on with the politics, AI, and science stuff, but it's something of a surprise to see him still kinda active all these years later.

 

[xertruglia]

I have this guy I dislike. Raven Lyn Clemens. No one really talks about him. He's pretty popular online. Kind of like a modern day Robert Crumb (mtf of course). But he seems to be in denial that he *is* in fact Robert Crumb with hormone titties. Lots of hate for cis men that remind him of himself. Posts a lot of self aware self hating comics. But in that kind of... japanese "were all so fucking fucked up." kind of way. Draws himself as Paul Dano with moobs. Because well... thats what he looks like.


Hes got a couple comics and books out. He has a fixation with late middle school /early high school. Its icky in its own way of course but it's also just a pet peeve of mine. I feel like people who fixate on stories about kids screaming at their parents and stomping puppies in 7th grade are permanently frozen in time. Like they need to go to therapy or kill their parents so they can move on and start writing about the shit you experience in life after that. Of course this guy is a self confessed Virgin so I guess that explains that. He's otherwise *kind of* smart so maybe one day he'll get laid and nuke all of this crap and start fresh with something better. Below are some comics from him that I particularly loathe.

Heres some middle schoolers he made up. Peep the third on the top row:


With this shit it's like... ok. Whatever. Sorry about that. I think there's better ways to discuss this with an open forum. But no sure make an epic Jonni Phillips comic about it so you can feel like you're a character in Goodnight PunPun:


The rest of this is just general brain dump crap he does. He stays busy. Cuz he ain't got a job lol! Im sure many of you will find it disturbing. But me, I find it dull. Not disturbing. Just another guy (rudely) jacking off in my face and telling me it's *his art*. It's what's in his soul. It sure is! I wouldn't doubt it! But anyways:

Spoiler

 

[Brenda Holiday]

Heres some middle schoolers he made up. Peep the third on the top row:

Reminds me of Matt Groenings "X is Hell" types of people strips but not funny or particularly interesting
His art also reminds me of that ugly political dog comic by the tranny chaser can't remember the name

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Raven Lyn Clemens.

Why does he like magenta so much? It's a horrible color to look at.

 

[Whatevermancer]

<...>

Plz use thumbnails, it's quite annoying when the images take up the entire screen.

 

[xertruglia]

Why does he like magenta so much? It's a horrible color to look at.

Its a rapist color. It assaults the viewer. Forces you to look at it. He is a flasher at heart.

 

[Surfin Terf]

His art also reminds me of that ugly political dog comic by the tranny chaser can't remember the name

Yoloswag studios. God, that video of him sniffing his boyfriend was repulsive

 

[Coolio55]

But he seems to be in denial that he *is* in fact Robert Crumb with hormone titties.

No. No. Crumb could fucking draw.
Whenever this nigger draws human limbs they all flop and crumple.

I think I could do this shit and my qualifications are: over 9000 sprite edits.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

STOP THE PRESSES! Popopoka gave them names

 

[Anonitolia]

hey, remember when I mentioned that SnP had made a comic attempting to make schizophrenics sympathetic?

effortpost coming soon, I think it's worth talking about by now

 

[Elderly beef taco]

A comic i liked at one point that has no art style, no longer any story (the artist wanted it to be his main income and put it onto a patreon), and is a dull slice-of-life comic:

This is what he posts now. You get 1 (one) free comic a week, and the rest posted like this.
He definitely did one regarding their infant son (based on their real child) having/talking about having a boner. When he was maybe 2 years old.
I'd dig more for examples but it's too lame to suffer through.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I have this guy I dislike. Raven Lyn Clemens. No one really talks about him. He's pretty popular online. Kind of like a modern day Robert Crumb (mtf of course). But he seems to be in denial that he *is* in fact Robert Crumb with hormone titties. Lots of hate for cis men that remind him of himself. Posts a lot of self aware self hating comics. But in that kind of... japanese "were all so fucking fucked up." kind of way. Draws himself as Paul Dano with moobs. Because well... thats what he looks like.

If these weren't 100% self insert sincerity woe is me stuff or filled with lecturing textwalls/tied to troonery I'd actually kind of be a little less averse to this style because it reminds me of a few local magazine/newspaper ads from way back in the day advertising like independently owned stores or events/concerts.Like the solid block background color and big fuck you text bubble with weird amateur looking drawings with wacky poses or faces were just all over those.

Yoloswag studios. God, that video of him sniffing his boyfriend was repulsive

I apparently missed some weird happening/drama I guess... maybe HE was the sicko the whole time? (YES... HA HA HA... YES!)

 

[Anonitolia]

Have you ever wondered what life would be like for a family of imaginary, nonbinary, schizophrenic glowing squirrels? Of course you have! Lucky for you, SaltNPepperBunny is here to provide some much-needed depiction of such a serious and deep topic.


Children of the Light is a comic about just that. Beginning on the 14th of September, 2022, this comic's stated purpose is to create sympathy for schizophrenic people as simply "neurodivergent". As a result, one of the content warnings on this thing is "ableism"... not for any actual prejudice against the physically or developmentally impaired, but because some characters (reasonably) think that the schizophrenic is not safe to be around.


The comic is relatively obvious about its intentions, which is a pleasant change of pace from SnP's fan works. It's still a little obnoxious, but at least this comic isn't pretending to be about something while really being about something else. I'd still argue that it looks far too child-friendly for what it's trying to tackle, given that it refers to "crap" as a swear and is still done in SnP's very rounded, brightly-colored style, but I feel that might be stretching it a bit because at that point you'd just have to slam SnP as a whole for daring to draw anything that doesn't line up with her very kid-oriented drawing style.


Our protagonist, Tashi, is supposedly a "defective" forest spirit... which means that he has zero self-control, a bad attitude, and far too much emotional investment in random things. This sequence, early in Chapter 1, sums up a lot of his personality:

This outburst comes immediately after Tashi's sister, Iya, monologues to the audience about how proud she is of Tashi for getting over his depression and actually leaving the house for once.

It's also worth noting that every single spirit here is referred to as a "they"; that's because every single Spirit character, including their "Tree of Life" that births them, with one exception that we will GET to is supposed to be nonbinary. This is constantly referred to and brought up throughout the comic. Despite this, I will be referring to the characters as their most obvious genders because it is very clear that they were all designed to communicate a certain sex before being claimed as nonbinary.


Anyways, our protagonist gets summoned to speak with this Tree of Life after his latest outburst, and claims to be a master of deception before, instead, proving to be a complete autist. He spends his time echoing his shadow, stimming, having another outburst at his slightly-irritating brother (that I won't show here because it goes identically to the first outburst, being literally slapped out of it by his shadow and all) and needing to have his hand held.


And this is supposed to be autism, by the way. The author herself confirms as much.


Anyways, Tashi then has a temper tantrum in front of what is essentially his entire species' father and leader after said leader dares to literally spell out to the audience what Tashi's issues are.


After this, he is offered to shadow a certain child, and the entire plot of the comic kicks off.

This child in question is the schizophrenic I mentioned much earlier in my post.

From here, the comic mostly devolves into walls of exposition about the creatures' lore and a bunch of one-off shenanigans revolving around this new child. Typically, someone will be "insensitive" ("wow hearing voices that don't exist must make you crazy" "NO IT DOESN'T WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU"), suggest that Ru should be "cured" before Ru gives a reason as to why she's fine actually, or Tashi will throw a literal autistic fit over something someone else does.


According to the author, Tashi's fits are just due to him becoming "overwhelmed". I don't know enough actual autists to comment on accuracy, but I will say that, as someone who doesn't have much experience with autistics, this is probably the worst justification you could give for trying to make someone sympathize with a person that's this damn aggressive. Same goes for trying to make the schizophrenic sympathetic by talking about how nice the voices in her head are to her. Hearing her talk about how one of her voices whom we will get to later actually thinks Ru is super special and important doesn't exactly frame the kid as very likeable or humble.


This is important because, according to the author, these characters are supposed to be liked. Or at least related-to. She started this comic after working in a group home that included people with these disorders, and she's convinced that she's going to inspire and educate other people with this comic.


Returning to the topic of that spirit that calls Ru all these nice things... I'm just going to let this sequence speak for itself.


Ru's schizophrenia is a plot device.

It's sold as "authentic neurodivergent representation", but it's about as authentic as a brain-damaged anime girl's alternate personality as a serial killer portraying the authentic experiences of real """systems""". Ru's voices in her head seem to be actual, real-life entities trying to communicate with her about upcoming events or chosen destinies. They whisper about shadow spirits right before they arrive, they give her emotional support and comfort when she needs it. Ru's voices are essentially her own personal therapist, and the comic repeatedly frames other people as rude or insensitive for assuming that she's crazy or ill for having them (despite those same people also acknowledging that they seem to do her more good than harm).


Most recently, the comic has actively tried to portray Tashi as in the wrong for attempting to defend Ru from of one of these personal therapists...

...because that's transphobic.

I guess it's somewhat fitting that the comic hasn't updated past these pages. "The schizophrenic delusion was actually trans and also completely real the entire time; implying it could've posed any danger is intolerant" is probably the best way to sum up this comic's twisted view of representation.

All in all, it's definitely another Salt n Pepper Bunny comic. I don't know if I'd call it as boldly stupid and dangerous as Pipe Up!, but if Pipe Up! didn't exist this might easily be her most deranged work yet. I don't understand how you could spend an entire summer working with the mentally ill, feel sympathy for them, and then go on to write a comic in which the two mentally-ill protagonists are unlikeable, cruel, constant victims or so infantile that they can't even see a pot getting broken without stammering and crying and hitting people like toddlers. Furthermore, I can't understand how you can then go on to claim that such a comic is actually very tolerant representation of these people and important for the world to read.

But hey, what do I know. Maybe I'm the crazy one and everyone else just thinks this is super great representation that needs to proliferate throughout media and culture. The comments definitely seem to think so.


I could go on, but the comment sections overwhelmingly consist of children or young adults decrying how toxic and abusive this family is because Iya, the flying-squirrel with the hair tuft, is stressed out by her job and is trying to get her siblings to stop being such aggressive spergs or talking about how brave SnP is for sharing this kind of story.

If, for some reason, you want to read through this entire comic yourself, I've linked it for you right there. I've already spoiled quite a lot of it for you, but if there's some specific lore sperging you want to see or any comments you want to read through then feel free to look through more of it yourself. This effortpost ended up turning into more of a walkthrough + rant and it's taken several hours to write now, so I'm going to leave it off here and just say that this new Kua arc honestly seems like a response to some personal experience or backlash that SnP herself has received. Tashi seems like a strawman of some kind of opposition, with Ru being SnP and Kua being some trans friend or acquaintance that SnP knows. I don't know why, the writing just comes off like that.

Anyways, yes. SnP is trying very hard to make schizophrenics look sympathetic is and it's backfiring very badly. Give it a look-through if you're bored or you hate yourself. I might post about it when some of the other comics I stalk stop posting updates for me to talk about.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Spoiler: Autism powerleveling

I can share a bit of my experience being autistic on the high end of the spectrum (not sure about the lower functioning autists who can really be dangerous, but Tashi doesn’t seem to be that low). I do have sensory issues that can make stressful situations overwhelming, and it doesn’t help that my primary stress response is to start crying, no matter how hard I try to fight it. It’s not anywhere near as bad as tard rage, but it still leaves me feeling embarrassed and shitty afterwards. Panic attacks also fucking suck, but it doesn’t look like any of that has been depicted. I will say that one of the best ways to keep an outburst from happening is to remove myself from the situation, take some deep breaths, get a drink of water, let my nerves settle. But Tashi doesn’t do any of that, instead he just insults the animals he’s supposed to be guarding, and is shocked when they’re equally nasty to him. Someone clearly didn’t learn that respect is earned, not given. But anyways, that’s my two cents as someone who’s mental/neurological disorder is being portrayed in a way that comes off as more offensive than anything.

Anyways, if SnP wants to destigmatize these mental disorders, good lord is she not doing a good job. Any semblance of Ru’s schizophrenia being not dangerous went out the window when he threw himself off a cliff high enough to be severely injured. And that’s without mentioning how unlikable characters like Tashi or Harper in Pipe Up! are. What really makes me sad is that there’s some semblance of a good story here too: a creature born into a certain role he didn’t ask for, hearing the voice of a deity beckoning them to their destiny. Hell, I’ve got one story involving some traces of that. If only they weren’t so intertwined with terrible depictions of schizophrenia, DID, etc. and tranny bullshit.

I didn’t mention it before, but by this point I’m actually getting a little invested in Pipe Up! Not because I think it’s a good story, but because I’m fascinated with how deep the rabbit hole is going. The art being pretty good helps. But for the most part there, I just want Kai to have a happy ending.

Edit because I forgot to mention it, but what the HELL is with the more unlikeable SnP characters trying to push sex? First there was Harper calling Kai a boytoy and asking if he and Percy ever fucked. Then there was Tashi trying to explain the literal birds and the bees to Ru, who's still VERY young, and then running off yelling "Let's see if we can find some mates cuddling!" when Ru is visibly and audibly uncomfortable. I'm not trying to imply that SnP is a sex pest or anything, but something feels wrong here. Maybe it's her idea of a joke, but the former especially comes off more like harassment than an attempt to be funny.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

All in all, it's definitely another Salt n Pepper Bunny comic. I don't know if I'd call it as boldly stupid and dangerous as Pipe Up!, but if Pipe Up! didn't exist this might easily be her most deranged work yet.

That's a little unfair IMO. From what I've seen of Pipe Up! in this thread, it's more grounded than this (relatively speaking). Both try to portray delusions as real, but Pipe Up! has a comparatively light tone, although possibly unintentionally. This is just Watership Down but in the Kokiri Forest.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually kinda miss schizobunny a little bit, even though it's only been a couple of weeks.

 

[Ed Special]

I can't be the only one here getting Assigned Male vibes from this art style, right?