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mindlessobserver said:
Which is incredibly shortsighted. Having families that have always lived in a place and always will live in a place is excellent for the long term stability of any society. Having a society of rootless consumers, which seems to be the goal, is great for short term quarterly planning but long term History always wins and things fall apart. And without deep roots nothing will be there to pick up the pieces.
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The idea of planting a tree you'll never sit under is largely lost by the current generation of elites. The ones still living are either too old or too jaded due to entropy proving to be an unstoppable force.

Fuck Bankers said:
The problem that should've been number 1 was getting more reservoirs built. LA county had record rain for the last 2 years. This was the first dry year. If they had the reservoirs built (which was a bill that was passed, but construction never started); people could've watered their grass (making them harder to burn) and LAFD would've had water in the hydrants etc.
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But if we did that what would be left for the Ukrainians!?!?
 
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"You can see four of them, however... what about the Eaton fire...The Otto fire"
"two of them are 100% contained"
"none of the current fires burning are 100% contained"


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Diana Moon Glampers said:
Startup idea:

Sprinkler system that applies to the outside of your house, attached to all the roof ridges, that will supply from municipal supplies when possible, and automatically switch to a pool or cistern when municipal water stops functioning at a sufficient pressure to run the system. Automatic wetting of the house from all available angles. Make them controllable via Starlink web link.

Within a year of getting them out into the public, insurance companies wouldn't insure any house without them, if it was in a fire-prone area. The demand would be massive. People would flock to do it even if it only had a 25-50% chance of saving the house.
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Startup idea: carbon fiber siding
 
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Apparently there's already a company doing it (bummer, I took the post down thinking it'd be a fun patent).

If I was a company like this, I'd be putting these systems in free at specific houses in the areas with the most extreme fire risk, then just wait for the photos after disaster strikes of whole neighborhoods leveled with the protected house still standing tall, not a singe on it.
 
Feline Supremacist said:
China Trolls US Over Los Angeles Fire
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Beijing released a video titled Wild Fire Nemesis, which shows China's AG600 Kunlong amphibious aircraft putting out fires to the tune of California Dreaming.
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If Xi decided to visit Disneyland.

You would mysterious competent government from Newsom appear as all red tape is removed to cleanse the fire.
 
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Diana Moon Glampers said:
If California had needed to deal with the increased demand for water to keep everyone's lawns watered, they'd have had to invest in desalination infrastructure, which can now produce water at only 10-20% additional expense compared to other sources available to southern California. If they'd had that kind of infrastructure, this fire wouldn't have spread like this, and the state would have saved many billions of dollars of rebuilding expenses that they will now incur.
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This is the same fallacy that people that don't do their brakes fall into when they need new rotors. You can't get this through to alot of people for whatever reason that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
 
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PointOfNoReturnPoint said:
This is the same fallacy that people that don't do their brakes fall into when they need new rotors. You can't get this through to alot of people for whatever reason that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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That's what leaders are for. If you can't think in terms of prevention, then you shouldn't be in public office.
 
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Fuck Bankers said:
That's what leaders are for. If you can't think in terms of prevention, then you shouldn't be in public office.
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This is what makes what I live in so great, we sort of have to given the way our landscape is that we cant cheap on anything and have it work. We also dont do the bullshit that cali does but hey, their pride came before their fall as per usual.
 
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SpergioLeonne said:
Startup idea: carbon fiber siding
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It's not a bad idea but adding that much demand for phenolic resin might make it less cheap. How many prop 65 notices need to be visible? One for everyvery piece of siding? Can you paint over the prop 65 notices? Do you have to display prop 65 notices for the paint you painted with? Do the prop 65 signs need prop 65 signs?

Edit: Just to be safe I'll put a prop 65 warning on this post.
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People are saying its staged because of a arsonist and the video plus have you seen the burn patterns? Multiple sources. Simultaneously miles apart in unison. Makes you think. Is it stage just for a excuse to build LA 2.0
 
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RodgerDodger said:
He used a commercial gas powered sump pump. The ones that are on a little wheeled cart. Used it to draft water from his pool which he fed to three folding tripod mounted agricultural sprinklers and 1 1 1/2" hose with nozzle. He kept his property damp enough to not ignite. Used the hose to save his house and his neighbors.
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Spending a couple hours with leaf blowers and hand tools remove litter and ladder fuels from the defensible space and setting up sprinklers is 90% of what a structure protection crew would do. He went the last 10% and broke out the 1.5" handline.
 
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RodgerDodger said:
Like 150 pages back I linked a story about a guy who saved his home with some brilliant invention. He used a commercial gas powered sump pump. The ones that are on a little wheeled cart. Used it to draft water from his pool which he fed to three folding tripod mounted agricultural sprinklers and 1 1 1/2" hose with nozzle. He kept his property damp enough to not ignite. Used the hose to save his house and his neighbors.
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I saw that, and I thought it was brilliant.

I've become cynical from the amount of bullshit I have seen in the world as I have aged, and this thread has already increased that. I would be in no way surprised that in the aftermath of this disaster, this man is punished by some arbitrary bureaucratic process, or some new regulation or legislation in reaction to the fire makes a system like this illegal.

The same CARB regulation that's making portable generators illegal would probably do it, but there may be others.

Diana Moon Glampers said:
Apparently there's already a company doing it (bummer, I took the post down thinking it'd be a fun patent).

If I was a company like this, I'd be putting these systems in free at specific houses in the areas with the most extreme fire risk, then just wait for the photos after disaster strikes of whole neighborhoods leveled with the protected house still standing tall, not a singe on it.
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Similar idea to what the guy upthread did, and a good one. This actually seems to be competently designed. It prioritizes the structure itself and the immediate area first, and then the surrounding area next. By default, it runs from the municipal supply, but can switch to a secondary source, such as a tank, well, or pool if the municipal supply drops too low (you will need to provide your own pumping power). It has its own battery backup in case power goes out. It uses a Class A foam that's Forest Service listed. Finally, not only can the control of the system can go over wifi, cell tower, or satellite, it has a manual activation switch.

On top of all that, it has already been proven in California wildfires before. I'm the first to complain about unnecessary regulations, but I would actually not have a problem with California building codes requiring this system or a similar one to be installed on properties in wildfire-prone regions, or insurance carriers requiring it in order to get a policy.

MrJokerRager said:
They going overboard on the climate change memes in the local news and distracting from Newsom's failures.
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I find it funny. Meming about climate change is not the rebuttal to or distraction from Newsom's failures that they think it is. It only makes them more egregious. If climate change is increasing fire risk, why have there not been even more prevention and preparedness efforts above and beyond the ones they already should have been doing?
 
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