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Giving out money carte blanche means that most of the money will disappear and never go to rebuilding efforts.
California has made it extraordinarily difficult for houses to be built long before this, even without the fires and the insurance issues. These places will probably remain cinders like the ones in Minneapolis. There are places there that have still not been built over.
 
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thats a US congressman showing the email FEMA was sending out to residents affected by fire that has ANY insurance saying they could not apply for ANY federal or state aid.
its honestly a massive deal but I dont work myself up for shit that the masses wont care about

also a based ass reaction image for anyone posting WAY TO MUCH or schizo
 
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California has made it extraordinarily difficult for houses to be built long before this, even without the fires and the insurance issues. These places will probably remain cinders like the ones in Minneapolis. There are places there that have still not been built over.
Riot areas are going to be fucked because it is solidified the area as a shithole, even if they didn't idolize a dead criminal in the neighborhood.

For what it's worth, before Saint Fentanyl, the last major American riots were in Los Angeles in the early 1990s, and I think that got rebuilt relatively quickly, partly because Rodney King was at best a victim, not some hero.
 
Riot areas are going to be fucked because it is solidified the area as a shithole, even if they didn't idolize a dead criminal in the neighborhood.

For what it's worth, before Saint Fentanyl, the last major American riots were in Los Angeles in the early 1990s, and I think that got rebuilt relatively quickly, partly because Rodney King was at best a victim, not some hero.
I think parts of koreatown are still husks without any rebuilding.
 
Can we get some context for the people not autustically focused on whatever's going on in this photo?
FIRSTLY, I think its funny as a reaction image for someone posting way to much info

second thats a US congressman showing the email FEMA was sending out to residents affected by fire that has ANY insurance saying they could not apply for ANY federal or state aid.

its honestly a massive deal but I dont work myself up for shit that the masses wont care about
 
California has made it extraordinarily difficult for houses to be built long before this, even without the fires and the insurance issues. These places will probably remain cinders like the ones in Minneapolis. There are places there that have still not been built over.
Yep, Democrats are worse than Atom bomb strikes.
 
Its just my opinion based on way to much autistic intake of this intel but im HIGHLY CONFIDENT that the scale of the devastation is so much worse than they are wanting to admit and they are doing everything they can to keep any official sources away from evidence and to label all non "official sources" as misinformation.
Speaking as an Okie who has seen her fair share of tornado aftermaths (obviously it's different than wildfire damage, but often similar results - devastated blocks of just, like, debris and house slabs). Pretty sure they often do photography/media moratoriums when there's unaccounted for dead, due to very strict laws preventing the media from releasing information before next of kin have been contacted or notified. Like, a reporter can't show an entire block burned to the ground (like, they can't say "were on XYZ block, look how it's been reduced to nothing but ash!" A relative of someone who lives on said block could be watching the news, than sue). There might be coroner trucks parked on blocks where the blazes have been put out, working to identify human remains. Again, that's not something they could get away with showing on the news.

As others have said (& I really hate to agree with them, but this is the most likely scenario) the death count of this fire will suddenly jump to the hundreds, whenever the fire gets fully contained. & to be honest, I suspect a bunch California bureaucrats are gonna be dragged before congress for investigations/possibly face charges.
 
During Katrina the Red Cross gave everyone $2000 debit cards and that was 20 years ago. Of course those led to the highest revenue months in the history of Gulf Coast casinos but that's not the point.
My Grandmother lives in New Orleans. When she left due to the hurricane, she left a majority of her stuff like yearbooks and whatnot. Her house was damaged but it was repairable and ultimately restored. And insurance helped greatly. She now lives in New Orleans and owns two houses, and is retired. The issue with Katrina was the response to it, and that falls on our leaders, and by extension Dubya.

I doubt the same level of success will exist with California. High taxes, tough building restrictions and insurance companies going away, along with the state and federal government’s poor responses to the fires, will compound all of that. Nevermind that this was all avoidable.
 
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Speaking as an Okie who has seen her fair share of tornado aftermaths (obviously it's different than wildfire damage, but often similar results - devastated blocks of just, like, debris and house slabs). Pretty sure they often do photography/media moratoriums when there's unaccounted for dead, due to very strict laws preventing the media from releasing information before next of kin have been contacted or notified. Like, a reporter can't show an entire block burned to the ground (like, they can't say "were on XYZ block, look how it's been reduced to nothing but ash!" A relative of someone who lives on said block could be watching the news, than sue). There might be coroner trucks parked on blocks where the blazes have been put out, working to identify human remains. Again, that's not something they could get away with showing on the news.

As others have said (& I really hate to agree with them, but this is the most likely scenario) the death count of this fire will suddenly jump to the hundreds, whenever the fire gets fully contained. & to be honest, I suspect a bunch California bureaucrats are gonna be dragged before congress for investigations/possibly face charges.
this is worse than a nuclear strike, throw out the rule book, I know there are thousands dead we have to know what the hell is going on so we can hold the people in charge responsible accurately.

Even floods and hurricanes leave the homes in place ,tornadoes only rip up cars moblie homes, earthquakes leave youtr possessions even if the home is destroyed

fire consumes ALL, your possessions, home, savings, community EVERYTHING
 
Speaking as an Okie who has seen her fair share of tornado aftermaths (obviously it's different than wildfire damage, but often similar results - devastated blocks of just, like, debris and house slabs). Pretty sure they often do photography/media moratoriums when there's unaccounted for dead, due to very strict laws preventing the media from releasing information before next of kin have been contacted or notified. Like, a reporter can't show an entire block burned to the ground (like, they can't say "were on XYZ block, look how it's been reduced to nothing but ash!" A relative of someone who lives on said block could be watching the news, than sue). There might be coroner trucks parked on blocks where the blazes have been put out, working to identify human remains. Again, that's not something they could get away with showing on the news.

As others have said (& I really hate to agree with them, but this is the most likely scenario) the death count of this fire will suddenly jump to the hundreds, whenever the fire gets fully contained. & to be honest, I suspect a bunch California bureaucrats are gonna be dragged before congress for investigations/possibly face charges.
Californian here. These are California politicians and democrats at that. Bold of you to assume that a single one of them will ever see the inside of a courtroom. Just look at how they're already preparing the groundwork by blaming the whole thing on climate change.
 
Okay, so NASA would have to be in on this too.

MSM is showing nothing. Official government site is showing nothing. University of California, Living Atlas, also almost nothing. Social media has never been a good source but only gets worse with time during any given happening so it, of course, is also useless.

It is truly ridiculous to immediately jump to this being caused by some massive consolidated effort to suppress shit. HOWEVER, there's also no way that the fires just vanished within a day's time without LA's elite being extremely fucking obnoxious about it.

Are they trying to pull a NJ drones move by diluting all possible information on the disaster until people forget about it and move on? Nobody's talked about the drones swarming over New England since Boxing Day, partially because social media was flooded with complete retards pointing at planes and pogging.
Similarly, people have been posting that one shitty mock-up of the burning Tesla underneath a palm tree and in front of two very-obviously-not-Californian houses alongside AI slop of the Hollywood sign being on fire, which is tiring people out when paired with the Jeet Menace trying to scam people with old footage and MSM streams becoming unreliable sources of news.

I'm still seriously questioning all this. It's possible that services just got overwhelmed by the flames to the point where people updating the sites have much higher priorities to attend to.

However, this is the cradle of the country's most despicable elite. I cannot think of a more demon-infested city than LA save for literal glowie central, D.C, which gets a pass for being the obligatory seat of government that every functioning society needs to have. I can absolutely believe that the city's government is so corrupt and genuinely evil that they're prioritizing information warfare and suppression of truth over the safety of their own citizens.

I'm still not convinced of anything.

But this is curious.
 
My Grandmother lives in New Orleans. When she left due to the hurricane, she left a majority of her stuff like yearbooks and whatnot. Her house was damaged but it was repairable and ultimately restored. And insurance helped greatly She now lives in New Orleans and owns two houses, and is retired. The issue with Katrina was the response to it, and that falls on our leaders, and by extension Dubya.

I doubt the same level of success will exist with California. High taxes, tough building restrictions and insurance companies going away, along with the state and federal government’s poor responses to the fires, will compound all of that.
After thinking about it I may be mistaken. Seeing the confusion over today's FEMA forms reminded me that they did offer some immediate disaster relief right after Katrina. I remember applying right away but one of the questions was misworded in such a way that automatically disqualified you by mistake. It took them several days to get the online form fixed but everyone who had been previously denied due to that glitch were unable to apply again and that never did get fixed.

this is worse than a nuclear strike, throw out the rule book, I know there are thousands dead we have to know what the hell is going on so we can hold the people in charge responsible accurately.
Climate change though
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After thinking about it I may be mistaken. Seeing the confusion over today's FEMA forms reminded me that they did offer some immediate disaster relief right after Katrina. I remember applying right away but one of the questions was misworded in such a way that automatically disqualified you by mistake. It took them several days to get the online form fixed but everyone who had been previously denied due to that glitch were unable to apply again and that never did get fixed.
"by mistake"
 
tornadoes only rip up cars moblie homes
EF3 tornado's and up will easily tear an average American subdevelopment house off it's slab, not just mobile homes.

Californian here. These are California politicians and democrats at that. Bold of you to assume that a single one of them will ever see the inside of a courtroom. Just look at how they're already preparing the groundwork by blaming the whole thing on climate change.

Newsom was supposed to be (as set up by Nancy Pelosi & co) the next leader of the new, post Biden/post old guard Democratic party. The Republicans, even non-Trump aligned, Koch-brothers style neo-con Republicans, absolutely will not be letting a good disaster go to waste.

Maybe the California courts won't convict their own, but I suspect the Trump administration will have absolutely no qualms with tossing the book at them fuckers. Heck, they might just do it to curry favor/court donations from the extremely pissed off, extremely wealthy Californian (formerly?) Democrat voters who had their Malibu mansions burn to the ground.

I hate to get political, but I genuinely think the fires are the nail in the coffin for what remains of the Democrat establishment. If they try to blame this fire entirely on climate change, they will be laughed off the podiums at the next elections.
 
this is worse than a nuclear strike, throw out the rule book, I know there are thousands dead we have to know what the hell is going on so we can hold the people in charge responsible accurately.

Even floods and hurricanes leave the homes in place ,tornadoes only rip up cars moblie homes, earthquakes leave youtr possessions even if the home is destroyed

fire consumes ALL, your possessions, home, savings, community EVERYTHING
My brother in Christ, please take a walk, have a drink, smoke a joint, whatever. But you need to take a break.
 
Riot areas are going to be fucked because it is solidified the area as a shithole, even if they didn't idolize a dead criminal in the neighborhood.

For what it's worth, before Saint Fentanyl, the last major American riots were in Los Angeles in the early 1990s, and I think that got rebuilt relatively quickly, partly because Rodney King was at best a victim, not some hero.
Oh no no no, the LA riots had still not been fully recovered from: from the Huffington Post of all places.
 
hats a US congressman showing the email FEMA was sending out to residents affected by fire that has ANY insurance saying they could not apply for ANY federal or state aid.
Incidentally, anyone who has dealt with insurance knows that gears of that particular institutional beaurocracy grind slow. Alot of people are not savvy about insurance, and don't include Alternative Living Expenses in the policy. So even if your home is covered, you are fucked three ways to sunday because it could be an entire year before the house is rebuilt. Until then you will either need to rent an apartment or live in a hotel. While also still being on the hook for your mortgage and property taxes.

(Incidentally, anyone who doesn't check the box for ALE on the Homeowner Policy, or Rental Car on the Auto policy are fucking retards). That said, with such widespread devastation this is actually something the Government CAN do to ameliorate the crisis. Both for the people affected and for the Insurance Companies suddenly getting swamped with claims they may not be able to cover due to shear volume.

Maybe instead of paying millions of dollars to house illegal migrants in hotels, those hotels could be better served for disaster stricken citizens in need of a place to stay while the mess is sorted out. Just saying.
 
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My brother in Christ, please take a walk, have a drink, smoke a joint, whatever. But you need to take a break.
buddy there is alot of my posts you could have replied to with that response and it would have been FAR more valid

fire is the most destructive natural disaster and its not just my opinion on that just think about the nature of others
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