Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

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Balldo's Gate said:
It's a waste of time anyway, the clip channel gained popularity with the Rekieta thing, but they squandered that opportunity because their streaming model is to cater to paypigs like Metokur Masochist or the guy who makes them watch things slow or whatever, it's now starting to fall off.

They also have to split the advertising money 3 ways and you can tell the editor is in full control of the channel and likely created the account since it's listed as being in Ireland.
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Balldo, I have some MAJOR contradicting assertions as to how much money the clip channel may be pulling in. On one hand, I see this.

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On the other hand, I see this on their social blade.

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Obviously one or both of these are an order of magnitude off. Which is the more credible frame of reference? Or are both incredibly faulty mechanisms and a better frame of reference is needed? I killed a 45 minute effort post because of this contradiction.

Added in edit: I am leaning more towards the latter, because even the "safe edgy" of the clip channel is not going to be high advertiser preference, as they'd clearly rather advertise on legitimately wholesome and mainstream channels. This is only an educated guess, not an informed position.

Added in second edit: It appears that doubling or tripling the social blade is more accurate for a first world country, as the worldwide stats are based on the fact that a third world channel gets a lot less dollahs per view, as their ads do not reach those with deep pockets. I'll use 2.5X social blade estimate as a decent estimator for now. It bears noting that this is BEFORE YT's 30% cut and whatever taxes they pay. Based on this, I guesstimate the channel nets just shy of 60K/yr before taxes, after YT cut, which is just shy of 20K per person. 20K for flaked, 20K for A and A. Add this to the estimated 40K from Kick, we have roughly 60K + gumroad earnings + superchat earnings - taxes.

Added in yet another edit: I do recall them verbally saying they paid Flaked a grand a month at one point. This may or may not be current. If Flake's cut is only 12K, that increases A and A's respective earnings by 4K.
 
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I was thinking back on what I said and I think PPPastor would be hilarious arc. I was just imagining him during the service passing out the collections tray.
"WE'RE GONNA READ PSALMS UNTIL WE GET 100 DOLLARS IN TITHES."
"Mrs. Johnson for 20 DOLLARS?" and Altar Boy Andy going YOOOOOO *clapclap*
PPP in the middle of a sermon and Andy standing next to him going Ashton, A-Ashton, Ashton, Ashton, b-but Ashton.
A baby starts crying mid service, and PPP whips out a triangle and starts screeching "RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT"

All in all I think it would be actually more funny than Kino Casino currently is.
 
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I've stopped watching any of the live stuff because frankly the content isn't worthy of going out of my way to consume it. But apparently the vibe has shifted so tangibly you can even see the cracks forming on their clipped youtube content. Ashton is barely holding it together.

The amount of distain and disgust Ashton feels when having to acknoledge Andy at all is apparent. It kinda reminds me of the early 2022 shows when Ashton had to suffer Andys binge drinking and wine snorting sessions. Which is probably foreshadowing to the eventual break up due to relapse (all of these scripts are played out already).

This is just what I got from their curated clipped content designed to remove all the awkward bad chemistry sections, so I can't imagine the cringe that ISN'T making the cut.

Take solace A logs, and know that even though Andy is unbearably annoying to a borderline sadistic level. At least PPP is suffering the most every single show for his sleazy sinful ways.
 
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Yes I'm New said:
This is just what I got from their curated clipped content designed to remove all the awkward bad chemistry sections, so I can't imagine the cringe that ISN'T making the cut.
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That sort of stuff even making the cut on YouTube is wild.
PPP has been taking jabs at Andy whenever he reads an overly sexual comment from their chat, so he can seal clap at it.

*Andy reads comment about semen*
PPP: "But did you really have to read that? Now it's immortalized on the stream there, Andy."
Andy then gets defensive but tries to play it off for laughs while looking at the chat for affirmation.
PPP not being fond of Andy reading just about anything out loud is probably related to the recent drama.

I wanna bet that PPP has ordered Andy to lock everything down tight and not engage with the various criticisms.
 
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Okay, time to jet on afternoon business. I have decided to alternate in play by play recaps (with commentary) of current and historic content of our resident Lard and Tard. If there's a show tonight, I'll recap it. Most likely, that will be a tomorrow project, so I can imbibe it at a heightened speed. If not, I'll recap a classic moment in their respective histories, which may or may not be of the Casino era. I'm leaning towards the chat revolt of July of 22, given their recent hostility towards the tomato emoticon. I'll either cover PowerChatGate tonight (if no show) or tonight's show tomorrow followed by a Saturday coverage of PowerChatGate. Thank you for the feedback. I'm going to alternate between classic and current content.
 
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Ethan Ralph Is 5'1 said:
That sort of stuff even making the cut on YouTube is wild.
PPP has been taking jabs at Andy whenever he reads an overly sexual comment from their chat, so he can seal clap at it.

*Andy reads comment about semen*
PPP: "But did you really have to read that? Now it's immortalized on the stream there, Andy."
Andy then gets defensive but tries to play it off for laughs while looking at the chat for affirmation.
PPP not being fond of Andy reading just about anything out loud is probably related to the recent drama.

I wanna bet that PPP has ordered Andy to lock everything down tight and not engage with the various criticisms.
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I mean yeah. Their chat is being swept with a permaban for anything pointing out any kind of criticism especially if it includes:
-Tomatoes ( especially the emoji 🍅 🍅 🍅 🍅 🍅 )
-ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP
-DOGWHISTLES ABOUT THE DATE FEBRUARY 28TH 2019
-Saying that Tardski isn't sober
-Insulting the streamers in any capacity
-Informing them that they clipped someone out of context
-Calling em out when they are straight up lying or misinforming people about a topic
 
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Rick Nekieta said:
Added in yet another edit: I do recall them verbally saying they paid Flaked a grand a month at one point. This may or may not be current. If Flake's cut is only 12K, that increases A and A's respective earnings by 4K.
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A grand a month or a 3rd of the clips channel earning, which ever is higher, to my recollection.
Rick Nekieta said:
Obviously one or both of these are an order of magnitude off. Which is the more credible frame of reference? Or are both incredibly faulty mechanisms and a better frame of reference is needed? I killed a 45 minute effort post because of this contradiction.
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Both are incredibly faulty as YT earnings are done per watch minute which is greatly dependent on video length, and pay out rates also vary greatly per video due to what ads they can and cant run on certain videos, and the only true and accurate metric is creator dashboard that only channel owner has access to. But do expect their earning to be on the much greater side as they do get that 1st world ad money rate, and most of their clips are like an hour+ and all of the most popular stuff is like 2+, 3+ hours, which results in a lot more watch minutes then your average video.

Edit: The first one seems to be more accurate.

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This is a screen cap from farming slop i like to watch, and in the end of the vid he goes over his yearly earning, part of which is YT, and a big part of which is his previous years 2 hour long recap which got 7 mil views. So you divide that ~102k with 70, you get ~1.46k per 100k views, which is on par with your first image. Granted this is slop and Sektur™ viewers probably have longer attention spans and higher viewer retention, so my uneducated guess would be around 1,7k to 2k per view on tard a lards most popular stuff. Maybe even close to 2.5k on stuff that's over 3 and a half hours.
 
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Rick Nekieta said:
Added in second edit: It appears that doubling or tripling the social blade is more accurate for a first world country, as the worldwide stats are based on the fact that a third world channel gets a lot less dollahs per view, as their ads do not reach those with deep pockets. I'll use 2.5X social blade estimate as a decent estimator for now. It bears noting that this is BEFORE YT's 30% cut and whatever taxes they pay. Based on this, I guesstimate the channel nets just shy of 60K/yr before taxes, after YT cut, which is just shy of 20K per person. 20K for flaked, 20K for A and A. Add this to the estimated 40K from Kick, we have roughly 60K + gumroad earnings + superchat earnings - taxes.
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Oeselian Chad said:
But do expect their earning to be on the much greater side as they do get that 1st world ad money rate, and most of their clips are like an hour+ and all of the most popular stuff is like 2+, 3+ hours, which results in a lot more watch minutes then your average video.
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This is a wildly optimistic view of YouTube ad revenue. Also, you can't multiply the views by length to get watch time as most views will be for a tiny fraction of the overall length of the video.

Oeselian Chad said:
A grand a month or a 3rd of the clips channel earning, which ever is higher, to my recollection.
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Then he's getting somewhere close to $1,000, if not exactly $1,000.
 
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Between Balldo's input and Oeseilian's input, we now have (keep in mind, this is an upper bound analysis with every variable estimated in their maximum favor, I am STEELmanning their position) about 52K + superchats (superchats are low revenue by any estimation since the sub model.) + gumroad revenue (this can not be guesstimated or estimated). Ashton once claimed 1000 gumroad customers, but I reject this on the strongest of terms, as they barely hit 1000 live organic viewers on their free streams and most of them have their subscriptions by way of paypig. But, on the other hand, there is no upper bound on what a single paypig can shove into Ashton's snout. I have NO basis to launch any educated guesses to gumroad revenue. I am finalizing my guesstimation at 57K + gumroad revenue - taxes per person per year. This said, their metrics are tanking on all platforms and the decay is present.
 
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If the editor flakes out, that could spell trouble for the casino.

Much of their success came from the clip channel. Provided that they pay the editor decently (they don’t), I foresee a potential snakening happening in this front.

Besides that, Andy Warski fucking sucks. Ashton’s a fat lying grifter but at least on that DSP show he’s listenable when his cohost’s more intelligent. Maybe that’s why I miss the old days of pre-Casino PPP, because when he had live shows they had an aura of intelligence but also fun energy to them.

Hate on the fatass all you want, but admit that he’s funny when he has the right people around him. Tardski isn’t it.
 
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