Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

He was basically a lolcow for alternative music message boards (like that B9 mentioned in that reddit thread). Used to be a skate punk in the 90s and a heroin addict who cleaned himself up (at least drug wise) and became a barber (he's actually good at it) and a Ted. Had an online feud with another heavily tattooed barber that looked even more ridiculous and then he got disillusioned with life in America because he couldn't say nigger or fag anymore and eventually left to Russia. Some debt might have been a factor as well.

Obviously he's nuts. But contrary to everyone else who always say they're gonna move because their country is too woke/not woke enough he actually did it.
 
What's far right to these retards? Anyone who doesn't want pedophiles in drag leering at their children or intoxicated illegals in their cities setting homeless women on fire?

None of those countries are far right but they should be.

"far right" is a term being exhausted by retards. The same as "racist", "bigot", "*phobe" and most importantly: "antisemitic".
I'm, for one, glad because they dull their own tools for social manipulation.
We're almost at the phase where "antisemitic" is a praise.
 
Another victim of Zelenskys handshake of doom.
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The Swiss Federal Council switches around the diffrent Minister positions all the time so nothing unusual.
IDK how relevant it is, but I saw an interview about the swiss wanting to go back to _real_ neutrality instead of licking US and NATO boots.
 
IDK how relevant it is, but I saw an interview about the swiss wanting to go back to _real_ neutrality instead of licking US and NATO boots.
The government will say these things to make boomers believe that our country is neutral.
In reality we will stay a NATO country in all but name without the benefits.

Edit: Also the guy in the video is a literally who, no idea how legit his information is.
 
Funny tidbits from 2014:

Important story: how Ukraine captured Sevastopol earlier.
In addition to the post about fraternal Ukraine, it would be good to recall the story of the violent seizure of Sevastopol.
This is when Ukraine brought in little green men unilaterally, brazenly violating international law and taking advantage of the coup in Russia in 1993. Yes, our forelocked brothers managed to distinguish themselves in this way.

It is important to recall this story so that it is clear where the unfortunate Ukrainians can now go with their plaintive lamentations about "Russian marauders" and "a stab in the back", "we did not touch you - but you went to rob when we were in trouble"
So, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, Sevastopol was legally and economically part of the RSFSR.
It was on the balance sheet of the RSFSR and its status was - republican subordination to the RSFSR.
Accordingly, Russia already then laid claim to Sevastopol (and Crimea by and large):

The Resolution of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation of May 21, 1992 No. 2809-1 states: "The Resolution of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR of February 5, 1954 "On the transfer of the Crimean region from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR", as adopted in violation of the Constitution of the RSFSR and legislative procedure, shall be recognized as having no legal force from the moment of adoption."

On July 9, 1993, the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation adopted Resolution No. 5359-1 "On the status of the city of Sevastopol." It states: "To confirm the Russian federal status of the city of Sevastopol within the administrative-territorial boundaries of the urban district as of December 1991," i.e. at the time of the beginning of the collapse of the USSR.

And then came the October Putsch of 1993 with the dissolution of the Supreme Council and all the subsequent upheavals with elections, etc. In this situation, Russia had absolutely no time for Sevastopol, which circumstance Ukraine took advantage of in a brotherly manner, first by blockading the rebellious city, and then by bringing in its little green men - the National Guard. That is, simply by going for a unilateral forceful seizure of Russian territory. Well, or at least disputed territory.

All this is recorded in the following document:
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On August 23, 1994, the Sevastopol City Council adopts a resolution "On the status of the city of Sevastopol" and an "Appeal..." on this issue.

TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Comrade YELTSIN B.N.
TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE
Comrade KUCHMA L.D.
TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FEDERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Comrade SHUMEIKO V.F.
TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE DUMA OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Comrade RYBKIN I.P.
TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUPREME COUNCIL OF UKRAINE
Comrade MOROZ A.A.
APPEAL

OF THE SEVASTOPOL CITY COUNCIL OF PEOPLE'S DEPUTIES

The Sevastopol City Council of People's Deputies appeals to you with a proposal to adopt a state, verified decision on the Russian Federal Status of Sevastopol and finally resolve the problems of the Black Sea Fleet.

The grounds for considering the above-mentioned problems are:

The will of the residents of Sevastopol and the Black Sea sailors, 89% of whom answered positively to the question about its Russian status;

The absence of specific decisions on the status of the city and the fleet;

The ongoing financial and economic blockade of the city;

The fundamentally impossible joint basing of the forces of the Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy;

The introduction of units of the National Guard of Ukraine into the city without the consent of the City Council of People's Deputies;

The legal basis for the Russian federal status of the city of Sevastopol has been thoroughly studied by numerous commissions, including international ones, and is based on the Resolution of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR of October 29, 1948 on the separation of the city of Sevastopol from the Crimean region into an independent administrative and economic unit with the status of a city of republican subordination.

De jure, the city of Sevastopol is still part of the Russian Federation, since when the Crimean region was transferred from Russia to Ukraine in 1954, the 1948 decree on the status of the city of Sevastopol was not cancelled and the subsequent extension of Ukraine's jurisdiction to the city of Sevastopol was adopted unilaterally, without the adoption of a corresponding decision by the constitutional authorities of the RSFSR.

With the collapse of the USSR in December 1991 and the formation of the sovereign states of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the Russian legal status of the city of Sevastopol did not change, but was further confirmed by the adoption of the Resolution of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation of July 9, 1993 "On the Status of the City of Sevastopol".

The legal unsettledness of relations between Russia and Ukraine on the status of the city of Sevastopol opens up opportunities for territorial claims by third countries.

Dear politicians!

Considering the special significance of the city of Sevastopol for Russia, the constant growth of negative consequences caused by the unresolved above-mentioned problems, we ask you to fulfill the will of the city residents and Black Sea sailors, restore historical justice, immediately complete negotiations on the federal Russian status of the city of Sevastopol and finally resolve the problems of the Black Sea Fleet. We believe that the participation of the delegation of the Sevastopol City Council in the negotiations is mandatory.

We believe that your state wisdom and responsibility will allow us to resolve the problems of the city of Sevastopol and the Black Sea Fleet.

August 23, 1994

Chairman of the City Council
of People's Deputies of Sevastopol V. Semenov

Head of the Secretariat of the City Council K. Pavlenko

Chairman of the Editorial Committee of the session V. Romanenko

Chairman of the Secretariat of the session I. Kulikov
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We must also understand that by this time the war in Chechnya had also begun, in short - fighting with Ukraine for Sevastopol was not at all convenient. Everything was left to chance by Yeltsin and that's how the hero city of Sevastopol ended up as part of Ukraine.

It is hard to argue with the fact that weak Russia, absorbed in internal squabbles, actually sold out the city itself, which the economic crests did not fail to take advantage of. Well, now let them not cry that they got a response...
We simply got our own back, with interest accrued over 20 years in fines and penalties. ;)
The world has changed. I feel it in the water, I feel it in the ground, I smell it in the air. (c)
The situation with Crimea as described by 'conscious' Ukrainians and the liberal part of Russian bloggers looks something like this:

Shame and disgrace! Russia has stabbed a knife in the back of fraternal Ukraine, unprecedentedly trampling on the world order, violating international agreements and causing the just hatred of Ukrainians and the entire world community - whose sanctions will now collapse the economy of this Nigeria in the snow, turning it into a world pariah.

In this position, almost every moment is enjoyable.
First, I would like to paraphrase the classic: "And who are the judges, damn it??"

Who is shaming us that we "illegally invaded a sovereign state"? The USA? The EU? Ukraine?

Which, for a second, illegally invaded Iraq in 2003 under the pretext that someone had a hallucination of weapons of mass destruction from Saddam. And yes, Ukraine sent their little green men there without a second thought. Into a sovereign state.
Hohols invaded Iraq absolutely illegally, trampling on and trampling on all international norms.
The EU has also managed to get dirty in the illegal bombing of Yugoslavia and unauthorized participation in the Libyan coup.

And now these figures have the audacity to squeal literally like in a joke - "and why us?".
Are they trying to talk to us pompously about morality and laws? To shame us for violating international norms?

Secondly, by the way, really - "for what?".
This constant refrain about a fraternal state is doubly amusing. Like until 2014 we were friends and lived heart to heart, and then suddenly bam - the damned Putin set the fraternal nations at odds. Destroyed the strategic alliance with friendly Ukraine. Lost it.
Okay, here the hohols are pretending to be stupid, but it feels like Navalny and Co. have a memory like a chicken.
It is clear that we Russians do not remember evil - but we have to write it down.

Let me remind you that such a state as Ukraine was and is and how they were "friends" with us and "observed all the agreements":

So, December 1991. The USSR collapsed, the Belovezh Accords were concluded between Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia, according to which "the member states of the Commonwealth will preserve and support under a unified command a common military-strategic space, including unified control over nuclear weapons, the procedure for the implementation of which is regulated by a special agreement. They will also jointly guarantee the necessary conditions for the deployment, functioning, material and social support of the strategic armed forces." (Article 6).

Here it is necessary to understand that the Black Sea Fleet was precisely related to the strategic forces and served for operations and projection of force all the way to the Atlantic. Ukraine itself does not need such a fleet at all, and it is not able to maintain it. On the other hand, Russia has no alternative bases for the fleet anywhere except in Crimea - the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus is not suitable due to inconvenient bays and climatic features (see "Novorossiysk Bora").

Despite all this, Ukraine by any means, by any means, including force, tried to squeeze out the entire fleet for itself in order to destroy it later. Solely in order to screw Russia and please Western partners who promised loans and accession to NATO.
How can such behavior be called? If not pure betrayal and treachery?

Historian Andrey Fedorov, author of the dissertation The Problem of the Black Sea Fleet in Russian-Ukrainian Relations (1991-2000) writes:

The Ukrainian side, declaring its rights to the Black Sea Fleet, sought to transfer under its jurisdiction this naval unit, if not entirely, then its best part, as well as all the infrastructure facilities of the Black Sea Fleet located on its territory, often acting in an unlawful, violent manner, by seizing and re-subordinating military facilities of the Black Sea Fleet, and creating, without prior arrangement, structures of the Ukrainian Navy, violating the agreements reached at the interstate level on the division of the Fleet, which was largely facilitated by the policy of concessions to Ukraine, conducted by the political leadership of the Russian Federation, as well as the interest of Western countries in weakening Russia's influence in the Black Sea region. At the same time, the Ukrainian political and military leadership, receiving comprehensive financial and political support from the NATO bloc, which is interested in minimizing Russian influence in the strategically important Black Sea region, has taken a course toward the actual destruction of the Black Sea Fleet, officially proclaiming its intention to create small naval forces to protect the borders of an independent state and striving to subordinate as many infrastructure facilities and ships of the Black Sea Fleet to itself as possible, while at the same time not being able to maintain them in proper combat readiness for economic and organizational-technical reasons.


Accordingly, for many years there were extremely harsh conflicts in Crimea, including the use of weapons. Here is just one of the episodes - on the night of April 10-11, 1994, a detachment of Ukrainian servicemen numbering up to 120 people carried out a violent seizure of the 318th division of the Black Sea Fleet reserve ships with a coastal base, a communications center, property, and weapons. The personnel of the coastal base were taken to the village of Chebanka, 10 km from Odessa.

At the same time, in 1994-96, I remind you, Russia fought in Chechnya. And against Russia there fought the glorious representatives of fraternal Ukraine from the nationalist organization UNA-UNSO. Then they returned as heroes to their homeland - and as a result of the last Maidan they received carte blanche. (see the exploits of "Sasha Bely").

Thus, by vilely exploiting Russia's difficult economic and political situation, Ukraine was able to squeeze out 18% of the ships by 1997 (which were quickly rotted and scrapped) and most of the coastal infrastructure of the Black Sea Fleet (which they are unable to use except as "pid tomatoes").
The process of destroying the Black Sea Fleet was stopped only thanks to the conclusion of an agreement in 1997 on the division of the fleet and its temporary basing until 2017.

It should also be understood that Russia faced double blackmail from Ukraine back in the 90s - the hohols not only destroyed the fleet, but also demanded cheap gas, constantly linking these issues. However, even receiving gas at domestic Russian prices, they did not consider it necessary to pay for it in full. When Russia refused to supply gas for free, they simply stole as much as they needed and threatened to block transit to Europe. The first such conflict occurred back in 1993. It lasted for 20 years, and it cost Russia tens of billions of dollars. Such behavior had to be tolerated before, since export gas revenues were critical for the impoverished budget. And fraternal Ukraine took advantage of this.

The next ship-gas confrontation occurred after the first Maidan of 2004, when the pro-Western government of Yushchenko, firstly, began to squeeze out the Black Sea Fleet with redoubled force, blocking its operation and trying to seize coastal infrastructure by force (see the story with the Yalta lighthouse), referring to the obviously illegitimate decisions of its local courts.
Secondly, it tried to revise gas agreements in its favor in order to receive payment for transit in "live" dollars at European rates, and not in barter in the form of gas.
The gas war of 2006 followed, during which Russia was able to defend its positions, forcing Ukraine to switch to higher gas prices. However, these agreements did not last long. In 2008, Tymoshenko refused to fulfill them. And all this against the backdrop of the participation of Ukrainian arty detachments on the side of Georgia in the Five-Day War!

What is characteristic is that at any moment Ukraine allowed itself to unilaterally revise any agreements that it considered unfavorable, both on gas and on the fleet.

And in this case, even after the agreements on gas transit to Europe and gas supplies to Ukraine were divided, Ukraine during another gas war in 2008 officially notified that it would not comply with the transit agreement, since it was not satisfied with the price of gas.

The trick failed, since by that time Russia, already having a financial cushion, was again able to escalate and blockade transit. As a result, a new gas agreement was signed for 2009-2019, according to which Ukraine received a significant discount for 2009, after which they had to pay at European prices.


As you can guess, while this discount was in effect, Ukraine was happy with this agreement. With the new 2010, the discount ended, and the Ukrainian authorities suddenly fell out of favor, and "Putin's agent" Yanukovych (Sic!!!) declared that the agreement was unfair, that Ukraine would not pay that much, hinting at another gas war and the expulsion of the black sea fleet. Then, in 2010, yet another 100,500th agreement (Kharkov) was signed, according to which Ukraine would receive a 30% discount on gas and extend the lease of the base until 2042. Literally a year later, Yanukovych suddenly discovered that they were still not happy with these agreements and began to persistently revise them for another price reduction. Yanukovych decided to use another revision of the hundred-times-approved rent for the fleet (what a surprise!) as a means of blackmail. And then he also added joining the association with the EU. The Kremlin responded by agreeing to an additional discount and a loan, after which Yanukovych abruptly changed his mind about joining the EU.

That's how the new Maidan-2014 happened.
Which, as we know, ended with an unconstitutional change of power and the arrival of revolutionaries who started by throwing Yanukovych and his agreement with the opposition. It's not even worth talking about these comrades being able to comply with some Kharkov agreements on the fleet and gas. In any case, the opposition, which has just come to power, tried to denounce these agreements even under Yanukovych.

So, regardless of the fraternal kinship of the glorious Ukrainian people - in the form of Ukraine, Russia has been dealing for more than 20 years with an obviously hostile and thieving territorial entity, in which the authorities change like in a kaleidoscope and each time try to blackmail Russia into giving up huge amounts of money, refusing all previous agreements. At the same time, they calmly allow their citizens to participate in wars against Russia and organize mass street marches and performances with cries of "Muscovites to knives", "Muscovites to the gallows".

Often local advocates for Ukraine and the world order say - well, yes, let someone break the laws, tear up treaties, but this does not mean that we can behave like that too!
We should be above this - if we want to live in peace and harmony and not become a world outcast.

To this I am again forced to remind the recent history - we have already tried to behave holier than the Pope. Have you forgotten the early 90s already? When half of the government was on the payroll of the Americans ("writers' case"), not to mention the official advisers from the White House. We have already tried to obey the US and the West both in chorus and separately. Did these Poles help you, son?
They just milked us brazenly, buying up the oil and gas industry and feeding us with pathetic handouts from the IMF with a bunch of conditions that drove us into an even bigger hole.
At the same time, the West was vigorously pursuing a policy aimed at further disintegration of the Russian Federation - if anyone is not aware, there was a time when even Tatarstan printed its own money, not to mention direct support for separatists in Chechnya. And at the same time, military pressure was underway in the form of NATO expansion to the east right up to our borders, and the Westerners didn't give a damn about public promises not to do this. It's good that Yeltsin, being in a glimmer of consciousness, did not have time to drain everything he could and occasionally tried to kick up a fuss.

Sure, okay, forget Yeltsin - but even Putin went for an expanded partnership with the USA, arranging major assistance in their operations in Afghanistan since 2001. And how did this "friendship" end? Spitting in the face and setting the Georgian lap dog on us in 2008, with full support of Ukrainian gas blackmail.

All this is enough to understand: no matter what we do, the West will never accept us. We will always be outcasts, one way or another. They will always hate us, or at best tolerate us, smiling falsely in our faces and never ceasing to do dirty tricks on the sly or even openly. Moreover, their claims do not depend on our foreign policy - I will remind you that long before Crimea, they suddenly started picking on (there is no other word for it) our purely domestic laws on the propaganda of homosexuality. And they also threatened sanctions! That is, we can forfeit everything we can and cannot - but Westoids will never calm down. Even if we elect a gay president, they will suddenly discover that we have problems with lesbians. Or with the rights of necropedozoophiles. Or they will find out that we do not teach children the basics of pederasty in sufficient detail. And what then? Flush ourselves again, fearing condemnation from the West?

If they want a "war" - we need to arrange it for them. Russia has a unique chance to finally break out of this vicious circle - decent financial reserves have been accumulated, Europe depends on our fuel, in 10 years this may no longer exist. This is a unique chance!


There is no need to fear the fate of the USSR - modern Russia is much stronger:
1) Russia does not feed a bunch of internal and external parasites like the USSR, this expense item has been significantly minimized.
2) Russia has a market economy that has already proven its ability to withstand the collapse of oil prices, while the USSR had an absurd administrative-command system sucked out of the finger of a half-witted sheep-fucker. Of course, it could not help but fall apart.

3) We now have someone to trade with profitably besides the West - China alone is worth something.

References to Hitler's fate are even more absurd - at the very least, he did not have nuclear weapons
;).
So no military danger threatens us, in any case, we have enough means and strength to bring light and heat to every American and European home. For a few seconds. But in abundance.

Let them finally introduce their sanctions, let them try to harm us somehow.
Let them openly act as enemies.

This will only finally untie our hands for such actions and prospects, in comparison with which reunification with Crimea is just flowers.

For example, we can incite China to collapse the dollar by dumping these reserves.
We can abandon the dollar and the euro and start selling oil exclusively for rubles, making the ruble one of the leading world currencies.
We can destroy the EU by starting to economically destroy first the Balts with our sanctions, then all sorts of Poles and Czechs. At the same time, we will force them to remove all restrictions on the import of our non-raw materials and sharply increase exports, blackmailing them with a refusal to import their goods. The point is that in a trade war with the EU, we have every chance of winning, since we can easily do without their cheeses, wine, and Mercedes, but they will be very, very bad without our gas/oil.

And we can also organize such a nasty thing: invest our reserves in the construction of state strategic storage facilities for the main export goods - oil, gas, grain, metal, etc. Then we can buy up these goods on the market and manipulate world prices in OPEC's face. While these storage facilities are filling up - everything will go through the roof.

Of course, we will sell weapons to everyone without looking back, as well as nuclear technologies, whether to Iran or Syria.
As a crazy idea - we can give Japan these Kuril Islands in exchange for the expulsion of the USA from Okinawa and the conclusion of a global treaty of friendship and the exchange of our resources for their technologies. Well, or at least troll US with a possibility ;).
We can close our airspace to European airlines.

Of course, all this is risky and difficult, of course, it is difficult to commit to this. We want peace, stability and for everyone to love and respect us, and to make visa-free entry to the EU and all that. But it doesn't work that way, and it won't work that way, no matter what.

And we didn't start it and it doesn't depend on us. I repeat - we've already tried to be white and fluffy, law-abiding and democratic, and? The Western world turned out to be filled with gopniks who, guffawing happily, began to take our wallets and mobile phones, while praising us for democracy and tolerance.

You can't pretend to be a law-abiding, peaceful lamb with such "partners".

There's only one rational option left - to go and beat them up with all your might. Not forgetting, of course, to chant about how we're fighting for peace and happiness throughout the world.

Someone says that only such strong powers as the United States can behave like that. And Russia is supposedly weak, it can't afford it. So you have to sit on your ass and watch indifferently as another American puppet destroys our fleet and leeches on our pipelines.
But this way we will definitely become even weaker and poorer!

While successfully defending our positions and interests by force is the only way to become stronger. Sooner or later we would have to take a risk, because no one is going to leave us a conflict-free path. They will endlessly bluff us with these sanctions and squeeze us out of the markets, resolve absolutely all conflicts in their favor. They will forever interpret all disputes and laws exclusively in their favor.
And then at meaningless G8 summits they will casually pat us on the cheek - "good boy".

And is Russia weak? In a military sense, definitely not: no one can threaten us with war without risking total destruction. In an economic sense, we have everything that is most important: fuel, food and weapons. Politically, we are much more stable than Europe, by definition. And most importantly, we understand what to fight and suffer for, we have motivation - how will Obama explain to the Americans that they will have to tighten their belts because of Ukraine - it remains unclear. After all, at one time, because of sanctions/war against even Iraq in 1991, the US economy experienced a small recession. That is, the isolation of Russia, which "weighs" much more than Iraq, definitely guarantees the Westerners a severe economic crisis. No one knows how this will end, otherwise they would have strangled us long ago, back in 2008 after Georgia. And this is also our strength.

And our main weakness is that a bunch of people with a victim mentality are frantically calling for us to give in once again. Calm down! We'll pull through!

Friends from Ukraine and liberals in Russia pompously ask - why are you interfering in a foreign country? Why do you need war?
With all the lies and stupidity of the Kremlin propaganda about "protecting the Russian population from fascists" and some strange forceful steps, abstracting from the tactical stupidity of the Kabaev regime, one cannot help but admit that strategically Russia has every reason for such interference in the affairs of Ukraine.
The fact is that by doing so
Putin does not start a war, on the contrary, he prevents it.
To understand what is happening and why what is being done is being done, you need to look at history.

You need to know that Russia fought for hundreds of years for access to the Black Sea.
Fought with the Crimean Khanate, the highlanders, the Turks, the Poles, the British, the French, the Germans. The bones of millions of Russian soldiers lie there. And this is not just a historical fact or emotion: it so happened that the Black Sea and the adjacent region have always been critically important to Russia for free trade with Europe. It is still quite important now, as it was hundreds of years ago - goods/raw materials worth hundreds of billions of dollars are exported through the Black Sea, Azov ports, and through the Black Sea pipelines

When the Union collapsed, this entire region ended up in independent Ukraine. It seemed like a brotherly nation.
It would seem that there are no problems?
But problems arose, and for reasons beyond Russia's control.

Ukraine turned out to be an unstable, ineffective state, torn apart by regional and oligarchic conflicts and contradictions. Its authorities failed to modernize its industry, and its economy has remained tightly tied to cheap Russian gas since Soviet times.

While Russia supplied gas at low, essentially domestic prices, Ukraine somehow stayed afloat. But with the global rise in energy prices, such sponsorship ended and the country went haywire.

In 2004, as a result of the Orange Revolution, pro-Western politicians came to power, who began to "knock out" cheap gas from Russia, blackmailing it by blocking export pipelines and expelling the Russian Black Sea fleet from Sevastopol. As a result of the gas war, they managed to get some discounts and concessions, which, however, did not help Ukraine much, as a result of which Yanukovych came to power on promises to be friends with Russia. He was stupid and rushed back and forth for a long time, and ended with Maidan-2

What happened as a result of Maidan? No matter how wonderful people fought for freedom there, a bunch of unpredictable, inadequate hysterics and idiots came to power, who are clearly worse than Yanukovych and Yushchenko put together. They managed to set the Russian-speaking regions against themselves with their very first bill, repealing the "law on the Russian language". They began to tear down Soviet monuments, needlessly irritating Ukrainian sovoks. They started to indiscriminately oppress the police, everyone without distinction, because of which they lost their power support and were left one on one with "Sashko the Whites".

They started to celebrate the victory of the Maidan, setting off fireworks at the oil depot, sitting naked on a barrel of gasoline.

Is it really that there were no more important things to do, is it really not clear that now is absolutely not the time and place for such initiatives? Then something began to dawn on them, they tried to play back, but it was too late - Crimea was on fire.

In general, if the new "authorities" had at least a drop of intelligence, they should have first announced that the Russian language would be given the status of a second state language and an amnesty for absolutely all parties to the conflict. But they did exactly the opposite. Apparently, the specifics of the Maidan method of changing power are such that there are no normal people there, and if there are, they cannot resist the screaming cattle with batons and machine guns.

Thus, Russia got a bankrupt state in a strategically important region, headed by exalted idiots who are unable to calculate the consequences of their decisions even one step ahead, with whom it will be impossible to have civilized relations.

So, what can Russia expect from these strange people in Kyiv tomorrow? Who knows!

What if tomorrow they demand a loan of 100500 billion, or free gas, blackmailing us by blocking our export pipelines? The day after tomorrow they throw our Black Sea fleet out of Crimea? Next week they will join NATO and invite the American fleet to the Sea of Azov. And how are we supposed to live with this then?

Tolerate all this, pay eternal tribute to some Galician usurpers, betray and throw away everything - our entire history, everything that our ancestors fought for hundreds of years, throw away all pro-Russian citizens of Ukraine, all our economic interests and prospects? It seems that this is not in our customs. It is so far from our customs that we would have to win it all back in the future anyway, only in much worse conditions. Possibly with the participation of Westerners on the other side, with the transition to the third world war.

Or another scenario - the Center tries to subjugate the South-East by force, a civil war begins, with crowds of refugees and all the delights. Each region forms its own government, and somewhere there is a "Wild Field". A kind of Syria right next door. Who needs it?

Now there are good chances, albeit crudely, but without a full-scale war, to resolve the issue for the foreseeable future, for example by breaking away from Ukraine and organizing a pseudo-independent Novorossiya (as one of the options).

Nobody wants war. Neither Putin, nor even the most stupid zombified vatniks.
 
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This traitor sold Swiss neutrality and brought the country in the arms of NATO. good riddance. Nobody liked her really.

The Swiss Federal Council switches around the diffrent Minister positions all the time so nothing unusual.
She has been minister for defence, civil protection and sport for 6 years.
But she is resigning so she will no longer be in the govt. about freaking time.

PS: is that what i just did multiposting? looking into multiple quoting, i think i understand how it works now
 
PS: is that what i just did multiposting? looking into multiple quoting, i think i understand how it works now
Yes, it is. You press +Quote on all the posts you want to quote, or highlight text and press +Quote if you want sections, then just Insert Quotes at the bottom of the text box, drag to rearrange if you need, and insert. Or you can press Reply on multiple posts and just do it that way.
It’s really not difficult and typing this out made me more sympathetic to Null’s crusade against non-thumbnailed images.
 
She has been minister for defence, civil protection and sport for 6 years.
But she is resigning so she will no longer be in the govt. about freaking time.

PS: is that what i just did multiposting? looking into multiple quoting, i think i understand how it works now
Honestly it really doesn't matter who is sitting in the Federal Council. They mostly just sign the papers given to them by leeches and parasites.
 
He was basically a lolcow for alternative music message boards (like that B9 mentioned in that reddit thread). Used to be a skate punk in the 90s and a heroin addict who cleaned himself up (at least drug wise) and became a barber (he's actually good at it) and a Ted. Had an online feud with another heavily tattooed barber that looked even more ridiculous and then he got disillusioned with life in America because he couldn't say nigger or fag anymore and eventually left to Russia. Some debt might have been a factor as well.

Obviously he's nuts. But contrary to everyone else who always say they're gonna move because their country is too woke/not woke enough he actually did it.
I think he could pull the look off if he didn't do all the retard tattoos. No self respecting motherfucker had a tattoo in the 1950s.
 
Yes, it is. You press +Quote on all the posts you want to quote, or highlight text and press +Quote if you want sections, then just Insert Quotes at the bottom of the text box, drag to rearrange if you need, and insert. Or you can press Reply on multiple posts and just do it that way.
It’s really not difficult and typing this out made me more sympathetic to Null’s crusade against non-thumbnailed images.
Merci!

Honestly it really doesn't matter who is sitting in the Federal Council. They mostly just sign the papers given to them by leeches and parasites.
Well one must always hope. And one that i would really love to see gone is the abysmal traitor Cassis.
Crap. i did it again. is it possible to delete a post? cant find the way.
 
What an odious worm.

Kind of reminded me of a Bong I heard about IRL recently.

Met a Russia girl who moved to the UK recently because...reasons I guess. Putler bad or something. Her mother is Russian and her father is a Bong. From what she said, the dad travelled to Russia in the 90s (you know that time where everything was fine and dandy in Russia), courted and knocked up her mother and when she was born promptly fucked off back to the UK and barely participated in their lives. He apparently later knocked up and married an east asian woman. If this dude was young today he would be screaming on reddit about trad asians or something while exploiting poor third worlders with zero shame.

Anyway, she was telling me about a call she had with her dad recently where instead of worrying about how his daughter is doing he spent like 2 hours ranting at her about how terrible Russia is, how bad Putin is and how Russians are guilty and evil or something. Sad thing is, this chick is a typical brainwashed Russian liberal so just nods in agreement to this kind of thing.

Imagine your own father telling you how terrible your country and heritage is and how your race is evil. What a cunt.
 
Crap. i did it again. is it possible to delete a post? cant find the way.
If on mobile, the button should pop up when you press the three dots ("...") button on the post, basically in the same place where the "Edit" button is.

If on PC, the button should just be visible on the post.
 
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UK pledges support for Ukraine with 100-year pact

Sir Keir Starmer has pledged to put Ukraine in the "strongest possible position" on a trip to Kyiv where he signed a "landmark" 100-year pact with the war-stricken country.

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The latest pledges build on the £12.8bn the UK has already given to Ukraine and commitments of £3bn every year for "as long as it takes".

As well as military support, including the delivery of a new mobile air defence system to be designed in the UK and funded by Denmark, the accord includes economic aid, support for healthcare, and increased military collaboration on maritime security and drone technology.

The UK will also continue to train Ukrainian troops. More than 50,000 have been trained on British soil so far.
 
Sir Keir Starmer has pledged to put Ukraine in the "strongest possible position"
He's sending schoolkids. That'll show Russia. If he can't get Ukrainian youth to get blown up in the trenches then he's going to kill of some British.
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Anything Russia can do.
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Russia "aggressively" pointed its radar at a French plane patrolling the Baltic. Remind me again which of these two countries actually has a Baltic coast.
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And a couple of very speculative stories. I've not seen anyone else saying that that Aussie mercenary is still alive. And Aussie Cossack has a certain amount of skin in the game. Sorry, no video.
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Newsweek's hardly a reliable source, but I wonder who is putting forward this idea.
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What is your problem with Teddyboy Greg? He's the most ardent supporter of all of this. And yes he's obviously insane but you don't get rid of the one guy who actually gets you just because he's a loony.

Met him twice.

You'd definitely bond over your hatred for jews but he'd call you a fag for frequenting the other thread.
Sounds like an interesting fella. Got a link for him?
 
He's sending schoolkids. That'll show Russia. If he can't get Ukrainian youth to get blown up in the trenches then he's going to kill of some British.
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So we don't send soldiers in (officially) but we'll send young trainees into a war zone? My contempt for Kier Starmer is no longer measurable.
 
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