Genshin Impact

[ZMOT]

endfield beta started and I didn't get an invite. this obviously means the game sucks and the company is shit.

Chat is this real?

sounds retarded enough to be since genshin doesn't have lootboxes.
as for fucking with odds, the US might fine them but it's an easy way to get v& in china or at least get the CCP on your ass, let alone other asian countries like japan, so I highly doubt hoyo was that stupid (but wouldn't be the first time a company going full retard for shekels).

sounds more like some karen got an unexpected credit card bill and blames the company instead of properly parenting her spawn and teaching him what "odds" are.

No. You can only use leveled echoes. I hate that. If I can use weapons to level up others, why can't I do the same for echoes?

as @Hammr2 said there's no "cost" besides grinding mobs, theoretically you could do that 24/7 (and you know some people absolutely would). everything else is gated behind waveplates and weekly limits.

but it's only an issue now with new sets (and conveniently there's a double drop event running now, usually that's at the end of the patch). if you played enough you'll sit on way too many echoes to churn through, the real limit are tuners depending how high you level each. keep in mind echo substats don't upgrade, so if you unlock 3 shitty ones you can pretty much trash it right then and there. another thing is that wuwa showers you in echoes and chests, the last IR had basically a free tacet field every time you opened the crystal thingie (12 times per week), and events usually give you stuff like this:

that's 233 random elite echoes alone, on top of the malleable ones. even before unlocking all the missing rinacita echoes to add them to the pool I was already inventory capped, haven't really touched those chest at all yet.

 

[Staphylococcus aureus]

New Abyss gave me HIV/AIDS and brain cancer. I think I also lost some IQ points. 70+ resets and over 10 different teams tested. I hate Nightsoul so much it's unreal.

 

[RhoasJonas]

New Abyss gave me HIV/AIDS and brain cancer. I think I also lost some IQ points. 70+ resets and over 10 different teams tested. I hate Nightsoul so much it's unreal.

If you are talking about the second side of abyss its entierly clearable without nightsoul, spread and burning shred the shields like butter.

 

[Staphylococcus aureus]

If you are talking about the second side of abyss its entierly clearable without nightsoul, spread and burning shred the shields like butter.

I finally got it with hyperbloom, my dumbass was just trying to bruteforce with Arlecchino overload, which wasn't working because my only other "high investment" DPS is Navia and she couldn't really get first half with the available characters. My final teams were Arlecchino, Diona, Bennett, Citlali for first half and Nahida, Xingqiu, Kuki, Fischl for second half. I had to actually level my Kuki for this Abyss since she was sitting at 70 a couple days ago.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

How can I mute Mem? Holy shit, it's annoying...

 

[Hammr2]

Chat is this real?

It's another day of some American parents being a total failure at parenting. Especially being way too lenient at kids-teenagers accessing to internet in general. It's so hilarious to me seeing this kind of story so frequent in US, especially when their transaction are too reliant on credit cards.
Also, I believe recently USA ramping up against anything Chinese related even more. Tiktok will be banned in USA soon I think? This is just MHY being whatever taking the fine so thing can just pass by smoothly.
Otherwise, there would be few more AAA USA companies gonna have issues with that. Like EA (Apex Legends), even Blizzard with their lootboxes.

I think MHY should embrace for more changes to Trailblazer. So more diverse "jokes".

At this point, I doubt MHY writing capability of making the you player character being not some "sidekicks". I notice bunch of people complaining about "white text and black screen" in Amphoreus story on Genshin leaks. Something never changes.
And I don't even remember any MHY in game jokes has ever making me felt funny. Okay maybe one time, two years ago during Genshin poetry event where Paimon made a puzzle about some thing eats a lot of Mora, can fly or float really high but can't swim - will sink immediately. Traveler said answer was Paimon herself, meanwhile Paimon was talking about Ningguang's Jade Chamber.
The other time, it's more of JP voice acting, Fontaine photography event where NPC went panic and bawling because "it's all for nothing and now she are in debt".

For Genshin, it's whatever right now. At least the whole Paimon being emergency food doesn't stay.
In ZZZ, the two siblings don't really actively working back on finding answer for Hollow catastrophe. Being a live-service game nature, I accept that. They don't even know much about new faction characters or even has some network relationship to back up. Despite being used to be high profile proxy as Phaethon. Let just say because of circumstances, Cunning Hares is the only group working with siblings for a long time, and only new faction are just happen to meet siblings for the first time.
I just can't believe that they make Nicole being "friend" with Miyabi just because Nicole scammed Miyabi when they were much younger. There are some implication shop owners where sibblings live are more than their "normal" jobs, but it's not like there are any some story to expand on that. Basically, the two siblings are more passive than early story.

Talking about voice acting, new EN recording studio for Genshin, Aka, same studio handles WuWa and Arknights. Amerimutt VAs can get fucked.

but it's only an issue now with new sets

I just hope Kurogames will have at least some kind of substats rerolls or picking main stats for 3-4 cost echo or more restricted merging echos. More echo sets mean more rng in lootpools.
But I notice in Rinasciata, Questless Knight and Diurnus Knight have 100% echo drop rate and they respawn daily. So.... maybe Kuro are testing out something.

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I look at arknights gacha banner, I feel kinda eh, it's more extreme on saving or spending a whole lot more to me. But that depends on generosity, balance, owning every character and "must-pull" value. Especially with pity does not carry over between limited banner.
Dupes aren't as game breaking, just more smaller QoL. At least for the original Arknights from internet. There is also global version is behind Chinese version half a year. Can't really tell what will it be for Endfield.

Spoiler

About Arknights gacha banner rates.
2% for 6-stars, 8% for 5-stars, 50% for 4-stars and 40% for 3-stars. Only characters, no "useless" weapons. 5-stars is guaranteed at least once per 10 pulls and 5-stars pity carries between banner.
2% increase for 6-stars at 50+ pity and a guarantee at 99. This pity does not carried over between limited banner.
The special exclusive banner will give a guaranteed 6-stars at 150 pulls, but only at exact 300th pull will give the rate-up 6-stars. After that, it can be any 6-stars character, not exactly the rate up one. Whaling this game costs a lot more.
Apparently, there is a ticket system to help you aiming for character type to roll beside gacha currencies.

Endfield character gacha banner.
0.8% for 6-stars, 8% for 5-stars. 5-stars is guaranteed at least once per 10 pulls and pity carries between banner.
5% increase for 6-stars at 65+ pity and a guarantee at 80. 120 is the guarantee rate up 6-stars, after that it's any 6-stars. Pity does not carry over between limited banner.
Rolling characters will give tickets to roll for weapons. So if too lucky on early roll, players may not have enough to rolls for weapon.
Weapon gacha
4% for 6-stars (gambling on 25/75 spook) and 15% for 5-stars. Every 4th of 10-pulls guarantees a 6-stars (not necessary the rate up one). The 8th of 10-pulls guarantees the 6-stars rate up. Neither the spook or pity carries over between banner.

Edit; WuWa codes from Fan Creation video, STARRYSTAGE and ALLEYESONUS valid til 31st January.

 

[Clancee]

Amerimutt VAs can get fucked.

Is there a list of which VAs would be replaced if anything? Admittedly don't follow this drama because there is always something going on, it all kind of blurs together.

 

[Hammr2]

Is there a list of which VAs would be replaced if anything? Admittedly don't follow this drama because there is always something going on, it all kind of blurs together.

I don't think there'll be any replacement. But at least for now, future characters are probably voiced by non-union VAs if their Los Angeles studio handles it. If London does dubbing, then it'll be British.

It's because stupid US industry with Sag Aftra about union VAs aren't allowed to participate in non-union and the whole AI protection strike is still going. MHY games are non-union, even HSR 3.0 has issue with few non-voiced characters.
Even ZZZ, character Soukaku has been replaced for a second time, it's worse. There are few unvoiced characters in current main story patch, only one (Lycaon) is confirmed to have schedule issue. I assume others keep their mouth shut because stupid union and Sag Aftra crap.
The strike is against AI usage from AAA Western companies. They still can get their job normally in Anime dubbing (same clique) and any other games. So no, I'll never ever feel pity about these people because "muh jobs" and "we stand together".

Edit 2:
EN Tingyun VA is used to be Laci Morgan (Sag Aftra union), but Anya Floris (non-union) replaces after Fugue. More or less, it's relied on MHY willingness to sign new localization term from Sag Aftra and new studio handles casting. Because stupid union vs non-union thing US.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

I'm guessing the Japanese are doing something right if we avoid this gay ass drama there. I can't speak for Chinese or Korean though.

 

[Troon Whisperer]

I'm guessing the Japanese are doing something right if we avoid this gay ass drama there. I can't speak for Chinese or Korean though.

In Japan the VA industry is huge and incredibly hard to break into, and considered very respectable due to it descending from radio actors and film dubbing. To become a VA in Japan you need to attending specialized training schools, whereas in the US any loser with a microphone can try and break in and score a role.

Mihoyo moving to a UK studio is great because all the British VAs are generally classically trained actors just doing voice work as a side gig between theatre roles which means we might get some good acting.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

In Japan the VA industry is huge and incredibly hard to break into, and considered very respectable due to it descending from radio actors and film dubbing. To become a VA in Japan you need to attending specialized training schools, whereas in the US any loser with a microphone can try and break in and score a role.

Mihoyo moving to a UK studio is great because all the British VAs are generally classically trained actors just doing voice work as a side gig between theatre roles which means we might get some good acting.

Oh! That's actually interesting. And I think it might arouse my curiosity enough to check out the EN dub for once.

Now I am kinda curious what it is about the American voice acting industry that makes it such a cesspool of drama.

Also, look who finally decided to show her prim ass around the block. Only took 78 pulls, my god...

But hey, now I get to hoard tickets and jades!

 

[Troon Whisperer]

Oh! That's actually interesting. And I think it might arouse my curiosity enough to check out the EN dub for once.

Now I am kinda curious what it is about the American voice acting industry that makes it such a cesspool of drama.

Looks like it's just the Genshin EN dub at the moment, with the speaking Natlan cast going through this studio. HSR is probably the 3.0 area people, but as I haven't started the 3.0 area yet, I can't comment on it.

I might do an effort post on the US VA industry and why it's a cesspool, but the main issues are the low barrier to entry, and how VAs will do anything to raise their profile (and drag down others) so they'll be cast in an important project so they can finally earn their union ticket.

 

[msd]

I beta tested this game, and when they released xiangling, I rolled her, then stopped playing.

whats been happening with this game? it still have shit rates?

 

[Clancee]

I beta tested this game, and when they released xiangling, I rolled her, then stopped playing.

whats been happening with this game? it still have shit rates?

If you're starting from zero pulls, it takes 90 pulls to get a guaranteed 5star, at which point it's a 50-50 chance of getting the featured banner character (pulls are commonly called pity). If you don't get the featured character, you get a guarantee that the next 5star you pull on that banner will be the featured character.

If you get a 5star character then the pity resets to zero and the cycle starts over. Assuming you're very unlucky and lose the 50-50 AND get a 5star at 90 pulls, you'll need 180 pulls to get the guaranteed 5star. A 4star character or weapon is guaranteed every 10 pulls.

Not sure how the weapon banner works, however.

 

[msd]

If you're starting from zero pulls, it takes 90 pulls to get a guaranteed 5star, at which point it's a 50-50 chance of getting the featured banner character (pulls are commonly called pity). If you don't get the featured character, you get a guarantee that the next 5star you pull on that banner will be the featured character.

If you get a 5star character then the pity resets to zero and the cycle starts over. Assuming you're very unlucky and lose the 50-50 AND get a 5star at 90 pulls, you'll need 180 pulls to get the guaranteed 5star. A 4star character or weapon is guaranteed every 10 pulls.

Not sure how the weapon banner works, however.

so its still shit, Im glad I quit all those years ago

I do like furina's design though, shes a QT 3.14

 

[DenseDeerFather]

so its still shit, Im glad I quit all those years ago

I do like furina's design though, shes a QT 3.14

In addition to the post above, you rarely hit 90 outright. Most of the time, you get a 5* before you hit 85 at most.

At least in my experience.

Also pity is carried over to the next banner so if you rolled for, let's say, Raging Thundercunt Raiden Shogun, lost the 50/50 and got Qiqi, then you have a guarantee that will carry on to the next banner off let's say...well, Eula.

 

[ZMOT]

so its still shit, Im glad I quit all those years ago

I do like furina's design though, shes a QT 3.14

rates are what they are, you have to look at the bigger picture. if you do your daily 15 min chores + events you get roughly enough primos to roll for a 5* (roughly).
might get lucky or not, but unless you care about abyss with it 0.5% of content compared to the rest you don't need those characters anyway so you can roll on whatever waifu you like, and since there's a guarantee and you skipped 1+ banners the rate suddenly doesn't matter at all anymore since you WILL get the character you want.

it's a mobile game, those 15 min chores you can do while taking a shit or lunchbreak (if your phone can handle it ofc), then do the proper exploring etc. on your pc/console.

it's not much different to any other game with random drops really, only difference being those usually can't be increased by spending money, otoh usually don't have a pity either (and sometimes are relevant for overall progression, so you're fucked even harder if you're not willing to farm for days/weeks).

 

[Girl Named Sandoz]

i've never understood the complaints about rates in this game. i'll take 0.5% with a guarantee after x pulls over something like 1% with no guarantee any day. this is something genshin did that changed the rest of the gacha industry and it's a major positive imo.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

i've never understood the complaints about rates in this game. i'll take 0.5% with a guarantee after x pulls over something like 1% with no guarantee any day. this is something genshin did that changed the rest of the gacha industry and it's a major positive imo.

It could be worse;

Spoiler

About Arknights gacha banner rates.
2% for 6-stars, 8% for 5-stars, 50% for 4-stars and 40% for 3-stars. Only characters, no "useless" weapons. 5-stars is guaranteed at least once per 10 pulls and 5-stars pity carries between banner.
2% increase for 6-stars at 50+ pity and a guarantee at 99. This pity does not carried over between limited banner.
The special exclusive banner will give a guaranteed 6-stars at 150 pulls, but only at exact 300th pull will give the rate-up 6-stars. After that, it can be any 6-stars character, not exactly the rate up one. Whaling this game costs a lot more.
Apparently, there is a ticket system to help you aiming for character type to roll beside gacha currencies.

Endfield character gacha banner.
0.8% for 6-stars, 8% for 5-stars. 5-stars is guaranteed at least once per 10 pulls and pity carries between banner.
5% increase for 6-stars at 65+ pity and a guarantee at 80. 120 is the guarantee rate up 6-stars, after that it's any 6-stars. Pity does not carry over between limited banner.
Rolling characters will give tickets to roll for weapons. So if too lucky on early roll, players may not have enough to rolls for weapon.
Weapon gacha
4% for 6-stars (gambling on 25/75 spook) and 15% for 5-stars. Every 4th of 10-pulls guarantees a 6-stars (not necessary the rate up one). The 8th of 10-pulls guarantees the 6-stars rate up. Neither the spook or pity carries over between banner.

It could be this.

Granted, this game is still in beta and so everything can happen. Heaven forbid MHY start adding 6* too.

 

[LucasSomething]

Oh! That's actually interesting. And I think it might arouse my curiosity enough to check out the EN dub for once.

Now I am kinda curious what it is about the American voice acting industry that makes it such a cesspool of drama.

1-hollywood and LA = Too many sex pests
2-Incestuous cliques and people hiring their own friends/family/lovers
3-Trump derangement syndrome
4-Twitter virtue signaling (guns, israel, etc)
5-Indusry likes hiring popular e-celebrities over professional actors with theater experience
6-AI outrage / strikes
7-Directors who actively hate the source material and change VA for token blacks etc
8-Anything where troons are involved
9-more

I'll say the brazilian VA industry is also really bad. There was a lot of drama in the Mortal combat 10 dub because they chose a rock singer to voice Cassie Cage... except the woman has a very thick accent and no experience so it was universally agreed to be awful.

BTW there is a hidden "softcap" from 75 to 90, you're way more likely to get a 5* in between those numbers than in 90. This is never explicitly mentioned in the game but it's tried and tested true.

i've never understood the complaints about rates in this game. i'll take 0.5% with a guarantee after x pulls over something like 1% with no guarantee any day. this is something genshin did that changed the rest of the gacha industry and it's a major positive imo.

Because IT IS shit and absurdly time consuming and expensive. Literally people only defend it because "At least it has guarantee unlike Fate and other gacha". Don't tell me you think 50/50 is good too, that's another thing every modern gacha copies now.

The weapon banner released with no guarantee either leading to the infamous "Staff of homeless" memes.