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We already have a working standard for porn in the Roth v United States supreme court case. The birth of Venus shouldn't be banned in our country.
The Porn Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. - If only you knew how bad things really are.
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If you had a venn diagram of "women who demand that pornography be banned because it's ruining men", and "women who read those thinly-veiled BDSM smut novels you see in the 'adults only' section of bookstores", it'd be a singular circle.
I just can't take these arguments seriously when half of the people demanding porn be banned are just the coom-equivalent of Fudds, where your pornography should be banned, but theirs shouldn't be banned because it's different and not as harmful.
I just can't take these arguments seriously when half of the people demanding porn be banned are just the coom-equivalent of Fudds, where your pornography should be banned, but theirs shouldn't be banned because it's different and not as harmful.
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Porn has redeeming qualities as well. It allows men to get off without needing a woman. Which is why women don't like it. Just go get into a sexless relationship and you will learn to like porn. Try not jerking off for a few weeks and see how fucking crazy you start getting. Like I said porn has its uses.
Porn is mostly digital now. I have heard physical media is making a comeback thanks to the shit the streaming services are pulling. But porn can still be found all over the internet and it's like 100% free. But I don't see that happening with porn. Last time I saw a porn mag was probably the early 2010's in a gas station convenient store. It was in a plastic bag and came with a free DVD. I don't know how long it had been sitting there. All the adult video stores closed down like over a decade ago. Porn started going digital in the mid to late 2000's. By like 2009 it was 90% digital. These days it's full on digital.
Towards the end the moralist and prudes made it so that the magazines had to be encased in plastic so teenage boys couldn't look at the mags and the front covers had to be covered up.
Only my own.
Banning porn is violation of first amendment rights. It's censorship. Moral fags and prude fags already tried to get porn banned twice and the SCOTUS shot it down. They tried in the 90's and in the early to mid 2000's with Bush in office. It went absolutely no where. Banning porn is completely idiotic and would go as well as all the other bans the Western world has tried. All it would lead to is a bunch of poor guys getting in trouble for wanting to jerk off in the privacy of their own homes and it would give women back their power.
It's mostly incel faggots and people on the right that want to ban porn. People who sit around and bitching about the state of modern women and how they can't get laid. Why would these people want to give women the power to use sex against men back? It makes no sense.
It's probably niggers. Niggers and shit skins are really rapey.
There are poeple out there with terabytes of porn on HDD's. Where do you think all the free porn comes from? You can find porn online from back in the 80's. Porn from the early to late 2000's is remastered using AI by people interesting in preserving older porn videos. I even have my own collection on a 1TB storage device. It's not even completely full I still have a little over 50GB left.
Porn addiction isn't real. That's just shit that dumb bitches made up. What's going on is the guy has high sex drive or possibly just normal. Guys like to fuck and women don't. Porn doesn't ruin relationships. The lack of sex ruins relationships. There are only 3 options to fix it. The women has to fuck her husband or boyfriend more or she can just get used to the fact that he jerks off to porn. The other option is they can separate and go look for someone that matches their sexual drives. Good fucking luck with that.
A guy jerking off to porn in a relationship with a woman is just a sign of a sexless relationship. The only thing ruining it is the bitch that won't put out.
I know about those novels. It's basically porn in text form. Older women used to have what's known as "romance novels". They used to call them crotch novels. It's porn in text form. They use flowery words like manhood and womanhood instead of cock and pussy. Women think it's better than porn because no one is actually fucking. Don't let them fool you though. They don't have a moral issue with porn. If they did, they wouldn't read those books. They don't like porn because it makes men happy. It gives men an outlet for their sexual needs and women hate that. They think if a man is going to get off, they should be the one who decides where and when.
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the only people who disagree with you are ignorant. You bringing up Fudds is a great analogy as well.
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Just give us AI girlfriends and we will never watch porn again.
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Woah, you're way off on Harley Quinn's design origins. Look, I know it's been literal decades since Harley Quinn wasn't trashy gooner fapbait, but she's named Harley Quinn because her original voice actor was named Arleen and Paul Dinni was attempting to come up with a name for a henchwoman character for Joker and Harlequins are clown-adjacent. It's entirely connected to clowns. Her backstory was that she was a pop psychologist who wanted to become famous by picking the Joker's brain and she ended up falling for him because she's also based on those insane women who write love letters to incarcerated serial killers. Nothing to do with Harlequin romance novels. Speaking of insane women behavior:
I believe this is a big reason why a ton of guys are jacking it to screens instead of developing functional relationships. Woman goes to a social event, a guy takes a fancy to her, and discretely hands her a post-it complementing her hair and invites her out to bond over a common interest. Her response is to let her gal pal take a picture of the note so she can light him up on social media. Thankfully, women seem to be turning a corner on this mean girl shit, so the cunt who posted this pic mostly got immolated by her own post instead of the guy, but this is a really big fear for young men. A lot of women want attention, and if they can't get it from the men they want, they'll get it by loudly calling attention to the attention they receive from the men they don't want. It has become very socially and even legally risky to express interest in women, and when you pair the risk of rejection by a woman you didn't know was going to be an attention-starved harpy with the general lack of economic opportunity men have nowadays, it's no wonder you have scores of men beating their meat to digital degeneracy. We have either been in an economic depression or recovering from an economic depression since 2008. Just because men lack access to the means of maintaining meaningful sexual relationships doesn't mean their sex drive magically evaporates. Just like how people without access to proper medical care will wreck their bodies with pain killers, young men who can't find a paycheck capable of sustaining a relationship with a woman will watch people fuck and jerk off to that instead. The porn question is a classic example of fighting the symptom because no one wants to talk about the disease. If the ruling class would dial down their avarice and will to dominate from an 11 to maybe a 4, a lot of this porn addiction will vanish overnight. Gooners will still fall down the gooner hole. It's an unfortunate aspect of how their brain is wired. There were degen furries back when you had to post your furry porn to zines.
Kids getting exposed to a cornucopia of pornography at an early age is definitely a problem, though. That being said, I don't know how to solve it without asking the government to do something, and the government will only ever do something about it in a way that really doesn't solve the problem but does allow them to control the Internet, most likely by regulating your right to browse the Internet anonymously.
I think we can all agree the advertisers are the real menace here.
You only need 3 points of contact to climb a ladder.
The government has trouble catching people who produce and distribute cp because they are in the business of using cp as leverage over politicians. After raiding Jeffery Epsteins pedophile island and confiscating all his hard drives, the only people arrested were Epstein and his errand bitch Maxwell. Do you really think they didn't find anything in that entire island temple? They're holding onto to that stuff because it's blackmail. There's maybe a handful of people in the intelligence agencies that believe they're there to hunt down child pornagraphers, and sometimes they're allowed to do it, but the federal government is a massive consumer of cp.
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Really good point. the only thing to ask the government to do right now is total or near total declassification of CIA documents and changing banking regulations so bankers don't control nearly every government office and corporate position. That will restore trust in the US government. After that changing the standard for obscenity back to the 1957 Roth standard could do it without endangering the Internet.
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She wrote the note. If it was a guy writing it, it'd read "Text me - (PHONENUMBER)" none of that flowery writing.
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The note was written by a weeb, either 18 or 40.
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Nigger look at that handwriting, that has whamen all over it. She wrote it herself for attention, nothing more.
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You are a fucking retard for falling for a rage bait and someone who loves grifting and attention
The handwritting is obviously female not to mention a fucking pink post it note.
I swear to god mens iq lower than those studies claim .
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Then listen to the other half.
What's so important about "getting off"? If you're not impregnating a woman, then your sexuality is impotent anyhow. The only asexual way not to be emasculated is through the potency of your will—by creating and accomplishing things; by being a force in the world; by overcoming forces opposed to you.
Masturbating is a surrogate for that. Or the bug-chasing world, if you want to follow that train of thought further. Emasculated, either way.
If you want real sexual potency, you need a woman anyhow.
You apparently can't stop bringing up women. No one cares.
Homo and/or tranny mindset. Both of you. If you gave every woman in the world a semi-automatic rifle, they'd never form an army. They can't even survive in online spaces (as an antagonistic presence, that is), without direct admin protection and enforcement favoritism.
They're an agonistic non-entity. It's like thinking of children as your enemy. I'm not saying they're mentally children or anything like that, but on the agonistic level—meaning the sphere of direct confrontation, be it verbal, mental, or physical—they are on the level of children, compared to men. They fold like tissue paper.
You have to stop thinking on the middle-school level of "if girls can have X, I should too". You're not a girl. You shouldn't want what they have, and vice-versa. You shouldn't be jealous of them for any reason—that's where trannies come from.
You might be jealous of birds for what you imagine it'd be like to be a bird, but a bird's experience is nothing like that of a human mind. There's no basis for comparison, and consequently no basis for envy. It's the same for women. We can only try to understand each other's behavior, and find the rare places where our minds overlap.
You wouldn't think of a bird as your enemy: they have brittle, hollow bones. When a bird is retarded (from your perspective), you don't care. You don't anthropomorphize them.
Stop anthropomorphizing women. That sounds dehumanizing, but we have to "dehumanize" each other if we want to understand what a human actually is, rather than project our false ideas onto them. Women shouldn't anthropomorphize men, either.
I do not—and never will—care about what women do or don't say about porn.
I want to ban porn because it's created an Event Horizon situation where Hell has opened up and it's spilling over all the Earth.
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Cause I just worked a 12 hour shift in a coal mine and I want to unwind. It's not as deep as you think bro.
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Thinking that men and women are on opposite teams is destroying society. Men getting off without a woman is another major thing driving a wedge between the sexes, and destroying the country.
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Boogie Nights tried to warn us. Highly recommend that movie btw. Shows what's fun at first about porn, and then how it rips your soul out and makes you wish you never engaged. Basically every single character ends the film in a traumatized depression they're unlikely to recover from (if they survive at all).
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I read an interview of a serial killer that stated that porn was the gateway to his nefarious deeds. After what I've seen porn do to my own mental health, chasing easy oxytocin and dopamine cocktails in leiu of tangible accomplishment.. so much wasted time, so much mental illness incurred, so much damage to my reputation.
Adult films are not made for adult minds.
Adult films are not made for adult minds.
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I don't think porn is causal for serial killers. Serial killers see people as a means to an end, of course they'll look at porn.
However, we have seen a rise in porn-induced erectile dysfunction in young men. Causing strains to their already strained relationships. Lots of dudes now worry about their height, and their dick size. It might be contributing to a general societal malaise, it might not. I'd say men are using porn as a way of coping with the shitty conditions their countries are in.
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@Yezidi Fan Club is likely referring to the Ted Bundy interview. People have expressed doubts over his sincerity, saying he was just trying to get a stay on his execution. I don't know too much about it.
On the subject of sexual violence and what porn does or doesn't make people do, though, there's some imprecise thinking on both sides.
People are thinking it either does nothing, or else that it acts as a natural law—like gravity.
It does neither: it acts as a spirit.
Lots of people had grandpas in the Masons. That doesn't mean everyone's grandpa was a neoplatonic magician summoning Jebulon or whoever. Plenty were just in the lower degrees doing civic service. Many might have the potential to go farther, but not the drive for whatever reason. For some, it might just have been more convenient for those further up the superstructure to not let them in—thinking on behalf of the whole.
Porn is the same way—it works through initiatory degrees. Most people aren't going past the low degrees, but the high degrees do terminate in sexual sadism and violence.
In each progressive stage, it won't get into you unless you invite it in. That's what I mean when I say that it acts like a spirit. The mass of people effected by it act as a roughly decentralized superstructure with an organizational intelligence (kind of like the masons), not as the product of blind forces (like gravity).
Sex isn't fully satisfying unless it results in a change—mental, spiritual, or physical. Without its capacity to cause change, it's just a relaxant—as @Spud describes. It loses its punch.
In most forms of deviant sexuality, that change is mental and spiritual. If there's mutilation involved, it's also physical. But mostly it's mental and physical. The problem is that once you're changed mentally, you need to change again in order for the sex to be satisfying. You don't even need the hedonic treadmill to make sense of this—you don't even need dopamine addiction models.
In a sense sex is always initiatory. That's the locus of the problem. If the change comes from pregnancy, it's stable: you can just have more kids.