US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[verissimus]

I sort of wonder, since Elon has been increasingly vilified since buying Twitter, that Trump is using him as a "Designated Idiot" to keep the heat off of him.

Does it really matter? I mean just look at that whole Madison Square Garden nonsense. A comedian makes a dumb joke about Puerto Rico, and yet somehow that was Trump's fault. It doesn't matter to these people.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

There's a difference tbh, God's strongest NAFO Redditor is a vegetarian gymcel with bitchwrists who watches kurtzgesat videos, God's weakest conservitard is at least a strongfat who drinks black rifle coffee and can spray and pray while still hitting things

It wouldn't even be militias. If any sort of terrorist attack occurred say, such as the cartel bombing a hospital or assassinating a politician or whatever - You know what would happen? Instant war with Mexico and shoving that jew-spic bitch into a toilet. 9/11 fevor would look like nothing in comparison.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I live 5 hours from the border, and a friend lives near the juarez location, these retards defending the cartels should be shown what these fucks do to people.

they do NOT love their country, they are subhuman, they are worst than ISIS sometimes, they will happily wipe out villages just because one person tried to resist.

Fuck the cartels, this is one thing they should be cheering for, I hope they get wiped out.

I hope I wake up one day and see that El Mencho is fucking dead along with the rest of the leaders

The number one priority for the local news stations in San Francisco and Oakland, was Trump deporting all the illegals.

And they show images and videos of a bunch of dysgenic brown and chink looking activist filth holding up signs in Spanish over wanting to defend illegal immigration.

Oakland and San Francisco are both going lower and lower into the shitter as well, while they worry about Trump deporting the border hoppers.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I don’t see how you take the Cartels out. They run Mexico. I mean, let’s say you take out the Cartels. That means you’ve taken out all the politicians/military leadership in the Cartels pockets which is all the politicians/military leaders. At that point you’ve completely broken the Federal Govt of Mexico and as Colin Powell once said about a very similar situation, “If you break it, you own it.”

That’s what it would take. Does Trump have the cojones for that?

 

[Aidan]

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that nobody wants to work a fed job because they can either contract or go work in the private sector.

You said government jobs aren't less attractive and then mentioned your bud who is a defense contractor doing IT. That isn't a government job, he's a contractor. I'm not being pedantic or autistic, they're completely different categorizations and "government jobs" tend to pay decent with great benefits vs contractors who pay very well with less up-front long term benefits or no guaranteed job security. The EO is about people whose paychecks are signed by the government and that doesn't include contractors.

 

[Adam Basile Woodrow]

i don't know, i think once you get into the south of mexico and things start narrowing, it becomes a lot easier to heavily enforce the border than it does across one of the largest land borders in the world.

I agree that 3,135 km and 871 km make a significant difference but you underestimate smuggling by sea

 

[gibbslets]

Declaring war on the cartels would be great for keeping the military industrial complex goons placated, instead of drone striking brown people in caves halfway across the world, they can switch to brown people in jungles close to home and get more support from the U.S. and Mexican population. If we're going to do endless war we can at least do it in a way that actually benefits us and not Israel.

one thing that's underestimated here is that the military has shifted their purchasing to instruments of Pacific warfare, such as long range VTOL planes, leading to atrophy of helicopter and ground-vehicle companies. I don't doubt they are desperate to regain their market share

 

[just Reading a post]

I don’t see how you take the Cartels out. They run Mexico. I mean, let’s say you take out the Cartels. That means you’ve taken out all the politicians in the Cartels pockets which is all the politicians. At that point you’ve completely broken the Federal Govt of Mexico and as Colin Powell once said about a very similar situation, “If you break it, you own it.”

That’s what it would take. Does Trump have the cojones for that?

It is funny how nobody had any objections to when Bush did that in Iraq. What failed there was the unwillingness to finish the job and be seen as a """""bad guy"""" for stomping the upstarts out and ensuring a stable government can last.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

Personally, I'd sign up for the Mexican Einsatzgruppen raids.
Killin, stealin, pillagin, all for fun and profit!

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

You have to wonder what the Vancester is thinking about all this ? he has a pretty easy path to the White House in 4 years assuming Trump doesn't fuck up and especially if he can get the economy back to Pre-COVID levels, most of the Hardcore Trump Supporters seem fine with him.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

At that point you’ve completely broken the Federal Govt of Mexico and as Colin Powell once said about a very similar situation, “If you break it, you own it.”

Didn't seem that way for Korea, Iraq, or Japan.

 

[msd]

I don’t see how you take the Cartels out. They run Mexico. I mean, let’s say you take out the Cartels. That means you’ve taken out all the politicians/military leadership in the Cartels pockets which is all the politicians/military leaders. At that point you’ve completely broken the Federal Govt of Mexico and as Colin Powell once said about a very similar situation, “If you break it, you own it.”

That’s what it would take. Does Trump have the cojones for that?

Same tactics we used with Pablo, he ran the government, even when he was kicked out of politics.

You take out the trash, and those who are the most loyal to their country and want to protect it will take their place. We dont need to own it, there are hundreds of mexicans who want to openly oppose the cartels any chance they get. Now that the US can take the kiddy gloves off, there will be no shortage of people wanting to help

 

[Necrosan]

I don’t see how you take the Cartels out. They run Mexico. I mean, let’s say you take out the Cartels. That means you’ve taken out all the politicians in the Cartels pockets which is all the politicians. At that point you’ve completely broken the Federal Govt of Mexico and as Colin Powell once said about a very similar situation, “If you break it, you own it.”

That’s what it would take. Does Trump have the cojones for that?

You have to, Chyna is using the cartels to smuggle fentanyl into the country plus they also have interests in Brazil and other parts of South America.

As @Korpon said, between bombing sandniggers in caves for Israel and bombing evil fucks on your backyard that are actively fucking up your constituents I rather do the latter. Hell, the people in Mexico will probably get on their knees and thank you forever. You get killed if you don't do what they say, politician or not. Don't forget that the latest election had most of its candidates killed so it's not like being a politician is a deterrent or a shield against these people.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

https://archive.ph/3Shj2

No more handouts, cry harder, Eurofag, lol
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https://archive.ph/dJTQ4

Holy shit, he's really not fucking around this time

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

I will say this. If terror attacks occur, the chance of American Militias forming and crossing into Mexico are non zero, especially among the border states. The Cartels will be inviting a war they cannot win with a ENDLESS stream of volunteers ready to kick their ass.

This stuff has happened plenty of times before. When people form militias the cartels don't tend to fight them head on. They disappear and wait for the militias to disband.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

The "GO HOME" text appears to now be gone from both. We watched them remove it in real-time.
I'm glad it's archived thothough

either it was trolling or the white house is lurking the farms

 

[Fuck Bankers]

I know the term limit was added after and because of FDR, I'm saying it would have limited him. Saying it was put in to prevent anyone undoing what he did ignores that it also prevents anyone from coming in and doing it twice as hard.

I'd love to be this sanguine, but I find your hypothetical of volunteer militias much less likely than China supplying the cartels to fuck with us. I wouldn't be surprised if it drove regular enlistment though.

Every President with maybe the exception of Trump's second term has been making it twice as hard. If FDR hadn't have killed Huey Long then the 22nd wouldn't have mattered. An Election is an election, if you want the guy out then find someone better.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

What's with all the speds here?

It's the politics thread.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

So fuck the cartels.
Build the wall.
Drone strike/old-fashioned jet strike their leadership if you can.

But just be warned the cartels will use every tactic in the playbook that the goatfuckers in the Taliban and Hamas used.
I'm not opposed to military action against the cartels, but if you think "this guerilla war will be different", I have a big bridge to sell you.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Who starts these rumors anyway.

Probably Grog himself. The Democrat Party is currently a wasteland wide open for the taking. Cozying up with the other side while reminding the others how precarious their situation is without him suddenly elevates him.