Kingdom Come Deliverance - Or how I stopped worrying about SJW and love Bohemia | Now with betrayal and a lot more niggers. "Historically accurate." BlackRock ruined the series.

I think this is the main point I would like to expand. I've played games that are more woke than KCD2, but at least the devs were up front about it. Warhorse knew what their audience was and knew they had this cancer on their game and decided to keep silent about it. Never showing it on trailers or promotional material, until it was leaked by a Saudi report.
Vavra went on podcasts and talked about the new plan was hiding all the woke stuff behind the 2 hour refund window. But he was based and was totally against it. Lying to your face while doing the opposite.
 
Listen man, I like reading a lot, but I rather read something that won't reduce my already low brain cell count. I no longer have any doubt that your avatar is an accurate physical representation of you.
If this is anything like the first game the first 10 or so hours are an incredible slow paced and largely on rails tutorial.

I'm pretty sure the plan was to scam people and hide all the nigger and gayshit well beyond the 2 hour refund period which is scummy and dishonest as fuck.
Oh fucking absolutely, if they lied constantly about the bullshit they forced into the game they're not above making sure you're beyond the refund hour before they reveal their true intentions. Place your bets folks, which hour do you think you'll meet the Floydian and which hour will be the sodomy hour? Ooooh man I can see the reeeing already from the usual suspects, probably the opposite of their reeeing about the first game. From "if you play this game you're a CHUD" to "if you don't play this game you're a CHUD."
 
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This is why you don't develop emotional relationships with video games. You end up a loser.
A lot of the defense of it is embarrassment imo. They shilled so hard for it because Vavra was the Based Chosen One and 2020 was going to be the year wokeness died, and now they look like fucking idiots even though everyone told them this was going to happen when the studio got bought out and they started talking about diversity and appeasing tranny YouTubers.
 
This is why you don't develop emotional relationships with video games. You end up a loser.
It's hard not to get attached to the few golden nuggets in the shit pile. It doesn't help I played KCD during a time which was a really great period in my life. It was also before Clown World was cranked up to complete insanity level.
KCD2 was a real roller coaster for me, because I got suspicous, when they said Kuttenberg will be diverse, so I promised myself not to get hyped. Then the devs and their lapdogs denied the game was gonna be woke, so I got a little bit hopeful. 2025 started out great, I thought, maybe we can have woke free games again, heralded by the sequel of one of my favorites. But no, they lied, we got betrayed, so fuck them.
Good thing I have other hobbies and a family now, so I have less time to play anyway. Those 60 dollars can be better used elsewhere.
 
They added a Sub Saharan African who's a fucking doctor, scholar, and seasoned traveler
  • Don't forget there are no black people in Bohemia
There are no black people in Bohemia. This guy came to Bohemia as a part of Sigismund's army. That's like saying "there are no Cumans in Bohemia", and it means the same thing, Cumans don't live there.
Made Henry bi gay
  • Don't forget they said Henry was his own character and straight
    • Wait that was a lie because the person who said that said he just made it up to give a reason
    • We are now told Henry was always supposed to be gay even in 1 but ran out of money
You keep saying they "made Henry bi", but if Henry, for example, had the option to rape, would he be a rapist if that choice was not picked? I think your issue is still believing people are "born gay"... especially in video games they aren't. Henry isn't bi, if you don't play him like that. If they forced you in a main quest cutscene to be receptive to some man's advances, I'd get it, but right now you are just fantasizing.
And yeah the PR person just said whatever felt right at the moment, it seems like Dr Fusselpulli (a German name as far as I can tell, ew) is a detriment to warhorse.
Vavra was very open with his audience, but when the leaks came out he became silent
  • He then waited for two days until the most stereotypical racist Nazi calls him a Jew to start talking
  • Damn I sure love when devs do the classic strategy of finding the worst person in a crowd to respond to
So one of the big bad things Vavra did was breaking his silence against someone who was insulting him on the deepest level you can insult someone. So you think it's a tactic? Do you think he waited intentionally for two days because he knew some Nazi would end up calling him a lying jew? Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Its much more likely that just pissed him off, he's obviously a very impulsive guy.

They then proceed to put in the most DEI steam code possible
Vavra, Wokehorse or PLAION or whatever the fuck they are called? The sins of the publisher get passed on to the developer, I guess. Wouldn't be the first time that a woke publisher sabotages a game, knowingly or not, but Endless Torment knows better because he can read minds as we found out before.
  • They put out a statement saying that are vague
  • Also says the gay leaks are fake
    • Know the gay leaks are real the only game part was the obvious unskippable part
They wanted to assure people that their concerns are unfounded without spoiling the game, yeah.
Don't forget that one of the influencers they work with is a tranny who even went to the studio and also asked for more representation
How about all the non-trannies who are very much not left wingers that you are forgetting. Is it the one drop rule? Just one tranny SOMEWHERE, if not on the dev team then some influencer they "work with", and now it's all over bros...
  • Don't forget influencers said that don't worry it will all make sense when you play
  • Don't forget that the embargo they made for the game specifically gates off the part of the game where all the controversial stuff happens
Yeah more YouTubers than the tranny played the game. They ALL say it is an amazing game.
And yes, I know you suspect foul play for gating off the content, but it doesn't have to be. Would you send out review copies for your story-heavy RPG to random YouTubers and NOT give them restrictions as to where to stop talking about the game? You'd be a retard if you did. It only sounds sinister because you chose to frame it that way.

Don't forget that when they talked about making the game diverse they only mentioned European countries, Jews, and Gypsies
And Germans. And Italians. And a whooole lot of Czechs.
Don't forget that they know said having more representation and choices are important to them, but you know they never mentioned any of these choices
I guess it just didn't occur to them to heavily promote the character that was supposed to be a surprise to both Henry and the player. It was kinda naive of them to think every gamer could deal with these things like adults, I guess they should've come out right away and said "OK, don't freak out but we thought it'd be cool to have a character from Mali there because xyz reason but DON'T FREAK OUT, okay, because he's BLACK". What great advertisement that would have been. Maybe gamers need to be infantilized after all.

Every fucking woke dev shows off the shit they add, except Warhorse who hid it
  • Dragon Age shows how gay it is
  • Suicide Squad showed how woke it was
  • Assassin's Creed shows they have a black protagonist
So Wokehorse is even worse than the woke devs, because they hid their wokeness? Are you really making the argument "At least they didn't lie?" Oh my god, you are. Isn't it more likely that it wasn't a decision made out of wokeness? Thinking that Wokehorse would do their first game in this unapologetic way and then HIDE WOKENESS in their next game just to ... what, make people mad for no reason, to ensure their third game will flop? Who thinks like this? Don't you think a lying, deceitful jew would be better at keeping their audience they are grifting off of happy?

They are worse than woke they are liars and liars shouldn't be defended and pitied.
Woke devs tell you they are woke and people think that's bad and evil, but apparently based devs are allowed to lie and do the same shit and be forgiven
Saying that woke devs at least aren't liars is the height of retardation. They lie all the fucking time and you would know that if you got your head out of your ass.
I don't think Wokehorse lied, I think they are trying to promote a product and are trying to quell a controversy without spoiling their game.

Just because you don't understand the logic behind something doesn't mean it is a lie. You are just too retarded to understand it, evidently. You frame it to be the worst possible thing for your own reasons (retardation), I frame it in the best possible way for my own reasons(very smart and handsome). That is all we are fighting about in this thread - framing.

If you need to fucking justify and pull yourself into knots to explain why you are buying a game you need to have some introspection.
I don't need to justify my purchases to you, I don't care what your opinion of me is, you are some anonymous retard on a gossip forum. I'm not doing it for your approval, sorry. There are many people who come to this thread and they come here for reasons other than to simply watch the circlejerk of retards chimping out about nothing.

You are tying yourself into a knot trying to prove Wokehorse is actually down with the LGBTQIA+ and DEI agenda, and the evidence you have is that there is a gay romance option and a nigger somewhere in the game and that Vavra did not anticipate that a sizable chunk of gamers were driven insane by the decade long culture war. You talking about introspection is peak comedy to me.
 
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So basically I'm just gonna not buy the gay nigger game
I Know..... UGH I know...
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just that I'm not gonna buy it is all
 
KCD1 had a gay monk in it. It is clear why they made a gay monk. It added nothing to the game and was deliberately placed there likely as some sort of developer commentary. Sure you can say its just historical accuracy but they could have just not included a faggot religious person in the game seeing how it has zero relevance to the game itself. You had the option to scorn him from it but it was still there. What relevance would a gay monk have other than a form of religious mockery that the devs thought would be funny or "ironic"? People bitching about "wokeshit" are just the dime-a-dozen grifters who can't form actual opinions for themselves letalone wait for a game to come out to tear it apart.
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Not defending KCD2 but the well was already poisoned.
 
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I tried to do that multiple times, they want to be mad and scream "the sky is falling", not be sober and reasonable.
Niggers I don't disagree with you, I'm just trying to give a sober evaluation of things. I'm not giving Vavra a dime of my money, if I play KCD2 it will be on the high seas.

I actually agree with your assessments on the severity of the objectionable content. Concord or Veilguard, it is not. Although I'm fresh out of patience for it at this point, in the past, I've been able to roll my eyes and ignore the "click here for sodomy" button in most cases. There have been many otherwise stellar games over the past 20 years with this garbage. I don't give a fuck about the Toth thing, I think that character is actually refreshing. When was the last time you saw a sodomite portrayed as a villain in media? I want MORE villainization of homos, troons, furries, feminists, weaboos, K-pop stans, and other caustic freaks in entertainment. On this item, they get not just a pass from me, but an endorsement.

What I can't ignore is them adding Musa for the express purpose of putting a thumb in the eye of fans who appreciated the first game's omission of diversity™, and I ESPECIALLY cannot tolerate rainbow-washing Henry. These are both full blown woke moves, and must be responded to with maximum hostility, and I think this is where we disagree. To me, these are binary issues. It doesnt matter if its there for a second like KCD2 or the whole game is spackled with it like Veilguard. In my book, anyone defending these items because they are less prevalent than the faggotry of Dragon Age are like a pederast saying "I only raped the 5 year old girl a little, your honor".

If you disagree that's your perogative, but for whatever its worth, I don't think you'll find a lot of sympathy on this thread or KF in general.

So one of the big bad things Vavra did was breaking his silence against someone who was insulting him on the deepest level you can insult someone. So you think it's a tactic?


Capitalizing on and/or faking a "hate incident" against yourself for sympathy is on page one of the PR playbook. Remember Juicy Smollett, that faggot nigger from Empire? He even briefly went to jail for running a variation of this play.

Whether it was a real interaction or Vavra sock-puppet attacking himself is irrelevant; his behavior is unacceptable.
 
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so on the game proper: henry will start as a retard again or how stats will work.
also whe need more info on the big tittied redhead
 
so on the game proper: henry will start as a retard again or how stats will work.
also whe need more info on the big tittied redhead
Henry will not be in full chad mod, so his stats will be lower.
I think they are going to be at 5 each or so (in the first game 20 was the max), but I may be wrong. I am pretty sure that Henry will still be able to read unless he has gone full retard.
 
What I can't ignore is them adding Musa
Yes, now that my emotions have died down a bit this is the one thing that still really bothers me, at least in regards to the game itself and not Warhorse/Vavra's handling of the situation. Its indefensible and I've seen no good answers from defenders. I've seen cope. I've seen arguments that its plausible so therefore ok. I've seen weak historical arguments that because North Africans were in Europe a sub-Saharan is ok.

This is the most damning data point to me that there was publisher meddling.
 
Does this game do that Witcher/Mass Effect thing where you can either import or simulate a save and it kinda sorta takes into account your decisions from the first game?

I have to imagine it does considering how plot heavy Kangdom Come 1 is.
 
Henry will not be in full chad mod, so his stats will be lower.
I think they are going to be at 5 each or so (in the first game 20 was the max), but I may be wrong. I am pretty sure that Henry will still be able to read unless he has gone full retard.
I think he will be able to read, as the first game very heavily railroads you into doing so, but his reading skill might be damaged by getting a knock on the head or some other contrivance.
What I can't ignore is them adding Musa for the express purpose of putting a thumb in the eye of fans who appreciated the first game's omission of diversity™
Where are you getting this from? Who said that that is why they are doing it? I don't see any evidence for that. I don't understand why everyone assumes this is the reason, when there are countless other potential reasons. It almost feels like people want this to be true for some reason, like they have a fetish for being betrayed and are rubbing their nipples as they write these doomsaying posts.

and I ESPECIALLY cannot tolerate rainbow-washing Henry.
Rainbow-washing would imply to me there's a main quest cutscene where Henry says "Eh I could swing that way". But right now it is just an option, one that is as likely as Henry being a cold-blooded murderer or a thief.

If you disagree that's your perogative, but for whatever its worth, I don't think you'll find a lot of sympathy on this thread or KF in general.
I have no illusions about that, I know I am blaspheming and I am not writing my posts to get a bunch of KiwiKarma... but I like KF because it actually allows a diversity of opinion. I think people are wrong on this, and I'm not gonna shut my mouth because the collective has determined this game is woke. I value KF because it still allows thinking to occur, instead of just being an ideological purity test like neogaf or resetera.

And if I get a bunch of mean stickers, so be it, I am used to being on the side that gets laughed at and ridiculed until I inevitably get proven right...
Capitalizing on and/or faking a "hate incident" against yourself for sympathy is on page one of the PR playbook. Remember Juicy Smollett, that faggot nigger from Empire? He even briefly went to jail for running a variation of this play.

Whether it was a real interaction or Vavra sock-puppet attacking himself is irrelevant; his behavior is unacceptable.
People thought it was really based when he did that exact thing to the journos, as in replying to them when they talk shit about him. People are wary because it is an often used tactic, but it doesn't need to be a tactic... especially since Vavra didn't do the next step of the tactic, which is saying "everyone who disagrees with me is like this person".

To me it was just a jew getting upset, because someone was expressing hatred towards them for being a jew. Again, water is wet.
This is the most damning data point to me that there was publisher meddling.
He went on record to say the character was his idea and implied there was internal push back, as he said he "insisted" on the character. If you believe Vavra to be a person with integrity, there is no reason to doubt this, but it you don't, there is every reason to doubt this.

The main reason I believe him is due to his pattern of behavior (he is very disagreeable, all people around him say he would be very, very upset if anyone meddled in his story and would never allow this to happen) and because it doesn't make sense to me from a business standpoint. He has also said he doesn't actually need to work anymore. He has more than enough money - which means it is not about the money for him, it is about the story he wants to tell.
I don't think Vavra is that retarded to compromise his own project for shekels, I am sure he has taken great care to remain in full creative control of his project - otherwise, what would even be the point?

Does this game do that Witcher/Mass Effect thing where you can either import or simulate a save and it kinda sorta takes into account your decisions from the first game?

I have to imagine it does considering how plot heavy Kangdom Come 1 is.
Sadly, no. I was more upset about that, than any of the recent controversy. I got over it, though.
 
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I don't think Vavra is that retarded to compromise his own project for shekels, I am sure he has taken great care to remain in full creative control of his project - otherwise, what would even be the point?
He's a pagan larper who hates white Christians and has Jew genes that compel him to enact humiliation rituals.
 
So Wokehorse is even worse than the woke devs, because they hid their wokeness? Are you really making the argument "At least they didn't lie?" Oh my god, you are. Isn't it more likely that it wasn't a decision made out of wokeness? Thinking that Wokehorse would do their first game in this unapologetic way and then HIDE WOKENESS in their next game just to ... what, make people mad for no reason, to ensure their third game will flop? Who thinks like this? Don't you think a lying, deceitful jew would be better at keeping their audience they are grifting off of happy?
This is why people think it was some sort of forced thing linked to bonuses. It doesn't make sense after Vavra went on podcast saying that was what many devs were planning to do and he wasn't going to do. If it was no big deal then they should have been upfront with it. At no point will anyone say "i am glad the dev hid gay sex from me in a game because the story i never got was so good". The new cope is it's so hidden you have to use a guide to get it. Why even add it then?

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Probably just a fuck up. Would be funny if the saudi ban was true too.
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