Encounters With SJWs/Tumblristas Offline or In Unusual Communities

[eyeball wizard]

Back when the whole Berkeley speech protest was a thing I had a very lengthy argument with a friend, a fully grown man nonetheless, and had to explain to him over and over again that cancelling an idiot's speech was NOT sufficient cause to destroy property and attack bystanders. He's fallen head first into the "viva la revolution" mindset tumblr shits out and it's sad to see him turning into this asshole.

He's a cis white male who's friends with the whole LGBT spectrum yet he's the only actual sjw out of us. We keep telling him to stop being such an aggressive patronizing dick to everyone who has the guts to stand up to him yet he unironically thinks he's "standing up for us". Dude if everyone you claim to represent is telling you to sit your social justice ass down maybe you should stop arguing and listen for once.

 

[Captain_Asshole]

Now that we are back I can post my first real life contact.

Spoiler: First blood.

I was with two friends, let's call them B and D, and D's roommate A. A is pretty much an obvious SJW by appearance (hair, shirt, beard) but even that did not prepare me for the storm. B was talking about how a guy we have both met some time ago was a misogynist and at some point I ask what he has said/done. B explains it (how well she did so is another matter). I stated that I didn't notice what he had said when he was with us, for what it's worth the misogynist did not even talk much to me and as I said we had met a quite some time back. B then responds with (for reasons better left alone for now) ''You usually don't pick that stuff up Captain Asshole.'' I ask her what that is supposed to mean and then A unleashes his fury. ''IT MEANS YOU'RE A MISOGYNIST, NO USE TO CODDLE YOU ABOUT IT!'' . Luckily for me, despite (or because of) my social ineptitude I can keep a perfect poker face when somebody insults me so I nonchalantly admitted that yes, I am in fact a misogynist and I have no shame about it. Before A could say anything my friend D jumped in and tried to ease things up by saying that A misunderstood me yadda yadda...The rest of the day was pretty quiet.
But! The next day we had another minor assault by our progressive and well meaning cinnamon roll uwu. While playing a board game someone happened to make mention of a violent psychopath character. A then started preaching about how we should never associate violent murders with mental instability because mentally ill people are always victims and people who kill are simply evil, except if they are black (yes!) and so on. However, he had no problem telling me that I look like a murderer because I look like a right winger according to him (somehow!) . Progressive thinking right?!

 

[AvocadoToast]

I, like a dipshit, randomly picked a diversity course this year. I ended up in gender and women's studies. One of the portions of text we were assigned was about 'penile drift', or the tendency for conversation to be forcibly and constantly brought back to being about men when it begins to be about women. The example they gave in the textbooks was that 'domestic abuse' is not a real thing. It's a fucking method used by the patriarchy to make the proper term, 'wife beating', focused on them because women are NEVER abusers. Men are ALWAYS the ones abusing women, amirite?

Cue me quietly doing some research.

And then tomorrow during the class discussion where these women ( and some men, RIP ) are happily providing examples of penises staying out of their lane. When someone brought up the whole domestic abuse is entirely a male thing, I raised my hand and pointed out that, according to the CDC, "the lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner was 43.8 percent for lesbians, 61.1 percent for bisexual women, and 35 percent for heterosexual women." So can someone explain how women in relationship with other women have a lot higher abuse if it's an exclusively male issue and doesn't like, have nothing to do with gender at all?

Cue incoherent arguing over each other getting louder and louder until the professor changes the topic.

Maybe you should have done better research. By that I mean actually reading the study you referred to. Most of those women were abused by men, not other women, and you pretty much wasted everyone's time with the anti-sjw ''interpretation'' of the study.

• The majority of lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual women (85.2%, 87.5%, and 94.7%, respectively) who experienced sexual violence other than rape in their lifetime reported having only male perpetrators.

• Most bisexual and heterosexual women (98.3% and 99.1%, respectively) who experienced rape in their lifetime reported having only male perpetrators. Estimates for sex of perpetrator of rape for other groups (lesbian women, gay and bisexual men) were based upon numbers too small to calculate a reliable estimate and, therefore, are not reportable.

• Most bisexual and heterosexual women (89.5% and 98.7%, respectively) reported having only male perpetrators of intimate partner violence. Two-thirds of lesbian women (67.4%) reported having only female perpetrators of intimate partner violence.

Spoiler: Moar about domestic violence statistics

It's not that domestic violence is never perpetrated by women, but that it's still overwhelmingly done by men to women (90% of victims from 1994-2010 were women) and men's violence is more severe, ongoing and escalating, motivated by a desire to control and dominate and more likely to result in severe injury and even death ( a third of female victims of homicide are killed by an intimate partner while 4-5% of male homicide victims are killed by a partner.) So when we're talking about domestic violence as an abusive relationship (as opposed to situational couple violence, basically when a couple fights occasionally, mutually and the violence isn't severe and there's no pattern of control) it is perpetrated by men against women 97% of the time. Then you have women's violence, which is in almost all cases responsive or self-defense.

It seems important to state the facts since there's no doubt you know about all the propaganda from the MRA side, dedicated to portraying domestic violence as a gender neutral phenomenon or men as the true victims, which they then try to use in court to argue that women's shelters are discriminatory and should be defunded if not shut down. Which is quite evil.

The funny thing is that a study tracking all of the domestic violence cases in England for 6 years actually found gendered injustice in the approach...against women. To quote the last lines of the study:

The current research in some respects echoes previous studies in showing that violent and abusive behaviour between heterosexual partners in contact with the police is gender asymmetrical. While cases were very varied, there were significant differences between male and female perpetrators of domestic violence in many respects. Men were the perpetrators in a much greater number of incidents; the violence used by men against female partners was much more severe than that used by women against men; violence by men was most likely to involve fear by and control of female victims; women were more likely to use weapons, often in order to protect themselves; and female perpetrators were more likely to be alcoholic, or mentally ill, although alcohol misuse by men had a greater impact on severity on outcomes. Despite these patterns, however, women were three times as likely to be arrested per incident, indicating gendered injustice in the approach. There was little evidence that cases involving dual perpetration might generally be categorised as ‘mutual’ and men were in the main the primary aggressors.

 

[sapir&worf]

[/SPOILER]

Your points are all correct. I also did read the study. Saying that was less trying to be factual more then that study looked factual enough and was from a reputable enough surface to make people who are more interested in screeching about 'but muh feminism' than fact-checking flip their shit. I'm just fed up with this feminism bullshit, man, I'm to be honest not all that interested in actual domestic abuse studies or statistics.

e: source not surface

 

[lolwut]

Maybe you should have done better research. By that I mean actually reading the study you referred to. Most of those women were abused by men, not other women, and you pretty much wasted everyone's time with the anti-sjw ''interpretation'' of the study.

• The majority of lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual women (85.2%, 87.5%, and 94.7%, respectively) who experienced sexual violence other than rape in their lifetime reported having only male perpetrators.

• Most bisexual and heterosexual women (98.3% and 99.1%, respectively) who experienced rape in their lifetime reported having only male perpetrators. Estimates for sex of perpetrator of rape for other groups (lesbian women, gay and bisexual men) were based upon numbers too small to calculate a reliable estimate and, therefore, are not reportable.

• Most bisexual and heterosexual women (89.5% and 98.7%, respectively) reported having only male perpetrators of intimate partner violence. Two-thirds of lesbian women (67.4%) reported having only female perpetrators of intimate partner violence.

Spoiler: Moar about domestic violence statistics

It's not that domestic violence is never perpetrated by women, but that it's still overwhelmingly done by men to women (90% of victims from 1994-2010 were women) and men's violence is more severe, ongoing and escalating, motivated by a desire to control and dominate and more likely to result in severe injury and even death ( a third of female victims of homicide are killed by an intimate partner while 4-5% of male homicide victims are killed by a partner.) So when we're talking about domestic violence as an abusive relationship (as opposed to situational couple violence, basically when a couple fights occasionally, mutually and the violence isn't severe and there's no pattern of control) it is perpetrated by men against women 97% of the time. Then you have women's violence, which is in almost all cases responsive or self-defense.

It seems important to state the facts since there's no doubt you know about all the propaganda from the MRA side, dedicated to portraying domestic violence as a gender neutral phenomenon or men as the true victims, which they then try to use in court to argue that women's shelters are discriminatory and should be defunded if not shut down. Which is quite evil.

The funny thing is that a study tracking all of the domestic violence cases in England for 6 years actually found gendered injustice in the approach...against women. To quote the last lines of the study:

Yeah, but I imagine watching an entire gender studies class lose its collective shit would be pretty funny, so who cares?

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

Two-thirds of lesbian women (67.4%) reported having only female perpetrators of intimate partner violence.

This nugget is good to keep in mind if you really want to piss off a lesbian separatist, though.

 

[AnOminous]

This nugget is good to keep in mind if you really want to piss off a lesbian separatist, though.

There's actually a tremendous problem with lesbian victims of domestic violence because of the refusal to believe in female perpetrators.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

There's actually a tremendous problem with lesbian victims of domestic violence because of the refusal to believe in female perpetrators.

This. Also the abusers rely on an unspoken code that one never complains of domestic violence from a fellow lesbian because it makes the community as a whole look bad.

 

[sapir&worf]

Yeah, but I imagine watching an entire gender studies class lose its collective shit would be pretty funny, so who cares?

Exactly my point. I wasn't trying to make a political statement, I was just bored and fed up and the collective REEEEing was pretty funny and made me feel a bit better.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

penile drift

That should be the name of a band

 

[Meowthkip]

That should be the name of a band

It sounds like a medical condition where your penis starts slowly drifting away from the center of your crotch.

 

[Lorento]

It sounds like a medical condition where your penis starts slowly drifting away from the center of your crotch.

Or a fancy term for an erection that some tweed clad elderly professor uses to refer to his own penis.

 

[dafdas]

In my class there's a girl, 90% of the time she's okay, an SJW but certainly not as crazy as I've seen before. But she tends to make every argument about the patriarchy, and if we're researching studios to apply to after uni and sees it was founded by a white person, she'll roll her eyes and complain loudly. Case in point, we found a studio in Dublin founded by three friends, predictably white men given the demographic of Dublin (90% white). Cue the "urgh, MORE white men" rant. Wonder how long she would hold to that discrimination if no other studio would hire her?

 

[TowinKarz]

The irony of it being sexist and racist to dismiss someone as a future employer for no other reason than being a white male is obviously lost... and that is why modern feminism makes me see red.

 

[Ruin]

One of my friends works in the HR department of my current employer and once a week we go to the pub to shoot the shit and complain about the things that bothered us that week. I'm sitting there and he walks in shoves a piece of paper at me and says "hey Ruin get a load of this shit." Apparently last month our resident danger hair filed over 300 separate sexual harassment complaints against co workers.

 

[Lorento]

One of my friends works in the HR department of my current employer and once a week we go to the pub to shoot the shit and complain about the things that bothered us that week. I'm sitting there and he walks in shoves a piece of paper at me and says "hey Ruin get a load of this shit." Apparently last month our resident danger hair filed over 300 separate sexual harassment complaints against co workers.

Wow, she's like a female version of Vordrak.

 

[Buster]

One of my friends works in the HR department of my current employer and once a week we go to the pub to shoot the shit and complain about the things that bothered us that week. I'm sitting there and he walks in shoves a piece of paper at me and says "hey Ruin get a load of this shit." Apparently last month our resident danger hair filed over 300 separate sexual harassment complaints against co workers.

Must be a total treasure to work with.

 

[TowinKarz]

Once they've alienated everyone, so that nobody ever makes small talk with them, or sits next to them at lunch, then they'll start the "hostile workplace" complaints.

 

[Ruin]

Must be a total treasure to work with.

I only had her in my department for three weeks before she transferred but here's a list of things she told me she seriously believes.

~ Cops in America are ordered by their superiors to execute a certain quota of black people per month.
~ Military bases are secret concentration camps for LGBT people
~ Big oil and the Republican party are trying to suppress wind/solar power
~ The massive amount of horrific human rights abuses and genocide in the middle east are just "western lies" and propaganda.

And yes before anyone asks she's a fat blob with blue hair who identifies as "genderqueer."

 

[Buster]

This reminds me, I had a customer try to argue with me about feminism a couple of days ago. I just remained professional and courteous, but she kept talking about how 'men get paid more' and how 'women should get paid to raise children because it's basically the same as work.'
I wasn't sad to see her get out of my store.