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The Ugly One said:
What I don't understand is why Lost Causers are so insistent on pretending this didn't happen. You've already planted your flag on the claim that slavery wasn't bad, so what motivation could you possibly have for denying that the South seceded to protect it?
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I just feel like the civil war being about "Ending Slavery" is central to American mythos and makes everyone feel goody about being American and people cant seem to let that go in an almost religion-esque manner. A lot of people dont seem to want to admit that it was more dynamic than good (non slavery) versus evil (slavery). That is what I want to push back on.

Just like how we can admit that world war 2 wasnt just about hitler wanting to kill some jews and we can look at the dynamic forces that brought it to fruition.
 
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Necrosan said:
Attention: We got another plane, apparently:
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Just fucking nosedives, it made me think it was a missile.
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I posted in the other thread, but this looks at least somewhat intentional. I have no idea how planes work, but I always asssumed that a plane "going down" doesn't do so at a 75 degree angle.

I am uninformed though, so someone please educate me.
 
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Clobber3 said:
It's a little ironic that people choose to be atheist despite the clear counterfactual that without the church like 90% of the population would still be serfs/slaves/whatever sub class of humans.
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Christianity has done more for the betterment of the human condition in 2000 years than science and Baal worship has in the entire existence of humanity. Polio cure ain't shit to banning the ownership of people.
 
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mlanguishi said:
They're saying a small plane on this? That either hit an ammo storage or fuel or something. Usually a 2-person plane going down doesn't light up the sky like that, there was one a month or 2 ago into a factory and made a tiny hole.
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For real. This is the crash of a Learjet a couple of years ago which is a decent size plane and even that doesn't make that big of a boom.
 

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More AWS-8Q Than You said:
I do like Kierkegaard, I have not read nearly as much as I'd like. Someday I'll get my reading list to a point I can slide him in there. Someday. I think too many people read Nietzsche in high school and stop when they get the God is Dead part and buy their first black trench coat and trilby. Kierkegaard, Camus, Dostoevsky, just ignore the French perverts.
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Some of the greatest thinkers of all time are Saint Augustine, Saint Aquinas, Hobbes, Burke, C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, G.K. Chesterton, Roger Scruton. Political philosophers, theologians, doctors of the church. Or geniuses. Whichever you prefer.

Also, Joe Biden's favorite philosopher was Kierkegaard and he cited him frequently in speeches.
 
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Observotron said:
I posted in the other thread, but this looks at least somewhat intentional. I have no idea how planes work, but I always asssumed that a plane "going down" doesn't do so at a 75 degree angle.

I am uninformed though, so someone please educate me.
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Depends on what went wrong. If you've got no flaps or rudder, you're going to go at whatever angle Newton says.

Or, as you say, it could be intentional. It's a good way for troons to avoid the death camps, I must admit.
 
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If you have ever been to an airport in the last few years you knew the entire industry was fucked with how bad the entire process is. Takeoffs cancelled/delayed all the time, constant near misses, wings falling off of planes and all the videos of stuff not screwed in correctly is just the start of what's coming if we don't move with purpose to fix the industry.

This isn't just a FAA problem it's every single company involved. Did you know we have refugee programs that have them doing plane maint/repair? Pilots are in a bad state too look up Atlas Air Flight 3591 and you will see how the pilot kept failing the tests and would randomly hit buttons but got hired anyways and the plane crashed because he turned off auto pilot and panicked.

Whole process of flying needs to return to being White and highly skilled as fast as possible.
 
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For real. This is the crash of a Learjet a couple of years ago which is a decent size plane and even that doesn't make that big of a boom.
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Jet fuel makes for a nice mushroom cloud, then mix in a bunch of oxygen from the medical equipment.

Ground ambulances do catch on fire a little more often than you might think.
 
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Sneed's Feed n Seed said:
Nietzsche, if understood, would drive people to be lawyers, doctors, etc, not just go edgelord. On the other hand, they're discouraged from reading and learning, castigated and insulted for their age, their sex, and for reading into Nietzsche at all.

Why not, after all? Men are shit on, young men can't articulate how to defend themselves, and Nietzsche is scary for people since he's basically telling you to take radical responsibility for your self.
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Yeah, he wasn't trying to be edgy. If God is dead and you have killed him, which was part of a criticism of German Lutherans professing religion but living as if God didn't exist, then you are responsible for your own life, how you live, and the overall meaning of it all. You are your own judge but you also have to own all your own decisions and the consequences of your own actions. That's what it means to be the "Overman" or whatever.
 
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Observotron said:
I posted in the other thread, but this looks at least somewhat intentional. I have no idea how planes work, but I always asssumed that a plane "going down" doesn't do so at a 75 degree angle.

I am uninformed though, so someone please educate me.
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Something has to go very very very wrong for a plane to fall like that. Like vertical stabilize or wing falls off kind of bad.

Or it has to be intentional like the Chinese pilot who nosedived his commuter plane a few years back.

 
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