US Trump to Hit Canada, Mexico With 25% Tariffs on Saturday - Canada, Mexico tariffs threaten to upend auto, energy sectors.

President Donald Trump said he would follow through on his threat to impose 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico on Feb. 1, citing the flow of fentanyl and large trade deficits as among the reasons for his decision.

“We’ll be announcing the tariffs on Canada and Mexico for a number of reasons,” Trump told reporters Thursday in the Oval Office as he signed executive actions in response to a deadly airplane collision.

“Number one is the people that have poured into our country so horribly and so much. Number two are the drugs, fentanyl and everything else that have come into the country. Number three are the massive subsidies that we’re giving to Canada and to Mexico in the form of deficits,” he said.

West Texas Intermediate oil futures climbed above $73 a barrel following the comments. The US dollar wiped out an earlier loss to touch the day’s high after the remarks, while the Canadian dollar and Mexican peso both plunged. US Treasuries pared their gains.

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US President Donald Trump
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Trump indicated the 25% rate could represent a floor, saying that the tariff levels “may or may not rise with time.”

But the US president did suggest he was still considering if one significant import — oil — would be exempted. Trump said would be making a determination as soon as Thursday evening, basing his decision upon the price of oil.

“We don’t need the products that they have. We have all the oil that you need. We have all the trees you need,” Trump added, referring to major imports from Canada.

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Trump’s move was closely anticipated by markets as well as global business and political leaders who have scrutinized his words and actions for any indication on whether the US president would deliver on his levy threats or use them as the starting point for negotiations on trade.
Trump in recent days threatened and then pulled back on tariffs against Colombia in a dispute over deportations of undocumented migrants, leading some to speculate that he was using trade levies merely as leverage to seek policy concessions.

China Tariffs​

Trump also indicated that he would proceed with tariffs on China. He didn’t specify the levy, though he’s previously said it would be 10%. Trump has said Beijing failed to follow through on promises to prevent fentanyl and the chemicals used to make the deadly drugs from flowing into the US.

“With China, I’m also thinking about something because they’re sending fentanyl into our country, and because of that, they’re causing us hundreds of thousands of deaths,” Trump said Thursday. “So China is going to end up paying a tariff also for that, and we’re in the process of doing that.”

Trump has ordered his administration to investigate whether China complied with a trade deal struck during his first term, setting the stage for tariffs against the world’s second largest economy.

Following through on tariffs against Canada and Mexico, who are US neighbors, major trading partners, and export markets, threatens to have dramatic economic consequences, rattle markets and potentially launch a trade war by undermining protections from a three-nation free trade agreement.

Both countries have pledged to respond to any trade levies, including with retaliatory tariffs, even as their leaders sought to assure the US they were addressing border concerns in a bid to defuse the conflict.

“If these tariffs go into effect, Canada will respond,” Canadian Ambassador to the US Kirsten Hillman said Thursday. “This is not something that we want to do. We do not want to get into a tariff-back-and-forth with the United States. It’s not good for Canada, Canadians and Canadian workers and it’s not good for the United States, Americans and American workers.”

Hillman said that Canada has responded to Trump’s concerns about the border by clamping down and announcing new security measures, including added drones and helicopters.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort even before the president was inaugurated in a bid to ease tensions between their nations, and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum spoke to Trump to try to avert the levies.

In the first 11 months of 2024, US trade with Canada totaled $699 billion and $776 billion with Mexico. And the magnitude of tariffs Trump will enact could have stark impacts on particular industries, such as the auto industry and the energy sector. Shares of US automakers Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. turned negative on the announcement, erasing earlier gains.

“President Trump’s tariffs will tax America first,” Matthew Holmes, executive vice president at the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said Thursday.

“From higher costs at the pumps, grocery stores and online checkout, tariffs cascade through the economy and end up hurting consumers and businesses on both sides of the border. This is a lose-lose.”

Further Levies​

Trump is also promising sectoral tariffs, such as on pharmaceuticals, semiconductor chips, steel, aluminum and copper, which could apply widely to many countries, including Canada and Mexico.

The US president is an avowed believer in tariffs, saying they will force a renaissance in domestic manufacturing, though industry groups warn that it will upend supply chains and endanger existing factories by raising costs of source materials.

He’s hailed tariffs as a source of revenue as lawmakers move to renew and expand expiring tax cuts and approve other credits and benefits the president promised on the campaign trail. Trump wants to reduce the corporate rate to 15% for firms that manufacture goods in the US, compared to the current 21% rate.

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With what navy? It's only through the US Navy's dominance over the sea lanes that the oceans are safe to cross. Canada has a dozen heavily outdated frigates. All using American equipment. They would be fucked because at that point, they on their own nigga.
Not with Europe and China helping them with their navies. Shit, China's navy is just wasting time pretending to train for the attack on Taiwan and bullying their neighbors. They could be put to a more productive use.

and i thought it was just dumb college kids and HR women who couldn’t understand the difference between legal and illegal immigrants
Except they're both here to take jobs from Americans. Especially with the Indians that the tech-bros wish to import. They are specifically here for that purpose, as Elon and Vivek had made crystal clear. Your point?
 
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Do what?

That can change real quick, you know. Trudeau is on his way out and even his successors have some plan to scale back or change his policies. Wringing your hands and cackling to yourselves how you are totally going to ruin us is only going to make us adapt.
Unless the next PM is a literal wizard he cannot rightfully unfuck things. As of right now Canada has:
A collapsing manufacturing sector
A massively inflated housing market
A massively inflated renting market
An absolutely massive spike in population solely via immigration(5 fucking million)
A collapsing health care system because of the above
A collapsing job market because of the above

We have no fucking cards, and short of deporting all the 'new canadians' and essentially deregulating most industries there is no fixing it.
 
Canada can easily develop an overseas trade network with the help of China or the Europeans. They can decouple from the US and have a few painful years, but eventually, it'll even out and work for them.
>Canada can sell it’s ass further to China and the EU

Nigga some of the provinces are already struggling. This is Canada cutting off its body to spite its existence. America can deal with this better than Canada can. You can’t build thr infrastructure they need in a couple weeks. They literally couldn’t distribute the goods from ports. Most of their population lives close to the US border. They are built for trucking.
 
Unless the next PM is a literal wizard he cannot rightfully unfuck things. As of right now Canada has:
A collapsing manufacturing sector
A massively inflated housing market
A massively inflated renting market
An absolutely massive spike in population solely via immigration(5 fucking million)
A collapsing health care system because of the above
A collapsing job market because of the above

We have no fucking cards, and short of deporting all the 'new canadians' and essentially deregulating most industries there is no fixing it.
All short term shit that you think will permanently cripple us.

And you think Trump is a wizard? You guys said yourself that the unfucking of the US needs to take more than one president to correct things. Just because he did a shock-and-awe on his first couple of weeks doesn't mean that his momentum can keep up, especially after 4 years.
 
Do what?

That can change real quick, you know. Trudeau is on his way out and even his successors have some plan to scale back or change his policies. Wringing your hands and cackling to yourselves how you are totally going to ruin us is only going to make us adapt.

You guys think we are some sort of welfare queen living off the US, but forget you are not the only show in town.
Your economy is in the toilet and you're being flooded by FUCKING INDIANS. You are turbo fucked retard.
Not with Europe and China helping them with their navies. Shit, China's navy is just wasting time pretending to train for the attack on Taiwan and bullying their neighbors. They could be put to a more productive use
So rely on everyone else to trade your goods. That can't go wrong, even if it could work. China is busy looking after its own interests. And Europe... lol. The US polices the Atlantic too.
 
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i didnt realize caadians do literally nothing
They have retarded Commonwealth shit still going. Some pedophile English lord said that those woods are his and Canadians can’t do anything in them. All Canadians can do is drink brown Listerine (high alcohol content) and seethe about America.

There only real powerhouse industry was a the part of Bell that didn’t get carved up by American companies. They solely existed due to that monopoly, they really aren’t a real country.
 
All short term shit that you think will permanently cripple us.

And you think Trump is a wizard? You guys said yourself that the unfucking of the US needs to take more than one president to correct things. Just because he did a shock-and-awe on his first couple of weeks doesn't mean that his momentum can keep up, especially after 4 years.
None of those are short term. The housing crisis has been snowballing since the 2010's, but we can't deal with it because the only way we generate 'gdp' is by people speculating on houses.

Do you see the five million new working age immigrants going home? The ones who take all the unskilled jobs that Canadians need?
Do you see us ever fucking bringing manufacturing back? With our retarded regulations?
How about fixing our broken healthcare? All those indian immigrants bring their families over, including their sick inbred relatives. What about them?

"We'll adapt!" is fucking hollow bullshit. We can't adapt. I knew this whole country was fucked when even the most right wing party started pandering to the 'new canadians'.

But hey, I'm sure you can just "adapt!" when groceries spike another fucking 60%.
 
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Canada just exports a lot of oil. The US imported $14B worth of stuff from South Africa and $438B from Canada, if you cut oil out of the graph it would look as diversified as South Africa. Also, particle board makes up 0.75% of the exports going to America, which works out to ~$3.3B, while platinum, a full 13% of South Africa's exports, is only worth ~$1.8B.
*EDIT: I think my math is a little retarded on the decimal places. but the point still stands.
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Canada actually produces a lot, and we produce high quality stuff that doesn't fall apart or contain a ton of impurities like Chinese shit, and it's mostly stuff that Canadians can use if they don't export. That is, if manufacturing/building is encouraged by the government instead of being stifled, and Canadians are willing to work through a couple hard years of building up our own infrastructure.

Also, this graph really demonstrates how if Canada really focuses on just being independent and investing in domestic manufacturing and transport we'd be so fucking set. Globalism fucking sucks, the economy is fake and gay, and I hope these Tariffs don't go away. I just want Canada to go back to being an autistic little country that can ignore the rest of the world, almost the only things Canada can't do independently with the resources we have is take on America militarily, and grow fruits all year long. We're set on almost everything else if we just buckle down for a couple years and build up our infrastructure and deal with all the low-skilled immigrants.
 
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I have no problems with Indians myself.
You should. Pajeets are scum. Every one of them.
Canada just exports a lot of oil. The US imported $14B worth of stuff from South Africa and $438B from Canada, if you cut oil out of the graph it would look as diversified as South Africa. Also, particle board makes up 0.75% of the exports going to America, which works out to ~$3.3B, while platinum, a full 13% of South Africa's exports, is only worth ~$1.8B.
*EDIT: I think my math is a little retarded on the decimal places. but the point still stands.
EDIT2: Actually I think I fixed it now?

Canada actually produces a lot, and we produce high quality stuff that doesn't fall apart or contain a ton of impurities like Chinese shit, and it's mostly stuff that Canadians can use if they don't export. That is, if manufacturing/building is encouraged by the government instead of being stifled, and Canadians are willing to work through a couple hard years of building up our own infrastructure.

Also, this graph really demonstrates how if Canada really focuses on just being independent and investing in domestic manufacturing and transport we'd be so fucking set. Globalism fucking sucks, the economy is fake and gay, and I hope these Tariffs don't go away. I just want Canada to go back to being an autistic little country that can ignore the rest of the world, almost the only things Canada can't do independently with the resources we have is take on America militarily, and grow fruits all year long. We're set on almost everything else if we just buckle down for a couple years and build up our infrastructure and deal with all the low-skilled immigrants.
I remember Mel Hurtig and the NAtional Party from the late eighties/early nineties (right when the FTA (not NAFTA, adding Mexico was a later addition) began). His view was that we needed to create a proper manufacturing sector. We are absurdly resource rich, but are too retarded to do anything except sell the raw materials for other people to then process and sell back to us. WE sell unprocessed pork to Japan to let them process it themselves ffs. Shit, we even do it with fucking WOOD. We send lumber south to be milled and then buy back the milled lumber at 100x the cost. It's utterly retarded and has been for a long time.
 
The Canadian economy is built on selling oil, importing Indians, and selling houses.
That last part is becoming more and more impossible, with how expensive housing is in Canada. It basically makes New York look like Florida, last I heard.......
 
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